Little high dont you think? 40k by yourself is more on the range of impossible to awesome. Haven't seen a magicka toon pulling that off without buffs except the newly excelling pet sorcs... And let's be honest, stamina is not important this patch
Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »
Not interested in getting into a pissing contest, but our guild puts up competitive weekly leaderboard scores all the time and have held the top VMOL score for a period of time as well. We were also, to my knowledge, the first single faction clear of VMOL HM on PC/NA. Define competitive?
Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »
@hedna123b14_ESO @IronCrystal
Well, we were talking at that time about VMOL bosses. DPS on VAA bosses and VMOL bosses arent even close to the same thing. VAA is essentially all stack and burn save the first boss where you have to follow a bit of mechanics. You can pull damn near 50k just channeling a lightning attack on the second boss, and 50K is very doable on the last two. They might as well be test dummies with a few adds to buff your parse. VMOL is very different. He was taking a shot at my guild because I suggested that 50K on VMOL bosses is not the norm even for the vast majority of competitive groups. Are there guilds that do have that kind of DPS across the board? Yes, but you can count them on one hand.
Fun With Math:
Alcast recently posted a Templar parse on the first VMOL boss where he pulled 64.1k DPS (which is damn impressive). Pretty safe to say that they are close to the top of the food chain. His single target DPS in that fight was 47k. His group total DPS 427K. Subtract his 64.1k and 5k each for tanks and healers (pretty conservative, as I am guessing the off tank is doing a fair amount on this fight, and if the healers are running lightning wall its even more conservative) and you are left with 48.9k Total DPS on average per player for the other 7 DPS in arguably the best guild on the planet, and even less in terms of single target damage. This is also certainly the highest parsing fight in this trial. So I stand by what I said, 50k is not the norm even in the best groups.
Also, for what its worth, I saw a Guildie hit 57K on that fight.
Here is the video, you can see the combat metrics data at the end of it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9pWJgrGkwg
Wow PC NA sounds toxic asf!reesenorman wrote: »
Okay so first of all, I can think of only one decent guild that really cares about weekly leaderboards. I did find that you were 1st on the patch before One Tamriel and I applaud you for that, but times have changed and that was like longer than what 4 months ago?
I sound incredibly arrogant but in reality you aren't on the same level as Mechanically Challenged, Order of Mundus, Epic Synergy or No Brakes, that's just my opinion. If you say you are competitive because you got the first single faction clear of vMOL HM on PC/NA then I cant help you, that doesnt even cross anyones mind as a competitive feat.
Your highest scores on 1T patch:
vAA: 93553 (60th PC NA)
vHRC: 97121 (67th PC NA)
vSO: 132954 (45th PC NA)
vMOL: 123847(8th PC NA) - Not bad
Competitive to me isn't about who can clear a piece of content with everyone from the same faction, it's about getting the highest scores possible on trials. Clearly you are interested in a pissing contest otherwise you wouldn't of bragged about your accomplishments and given me something to feed off. Now let me link this to my guild so I can get everyone to give it an awesome hue hue.
Don't assume that because your group is incapable of pulling 50K, all others aren't.
I can link a few fight parses from last night just to prove my point;
Twins:
http://i.imgur.com/o3qZDyd.png
http://i.imgur.com/8Z1Y9f4.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/280541067886198785/281987144958869504/Screenshot_20170216_202840.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/280541067886198785/282039919021654016/Elder_Scrolls_Online_02.17.2017_-_00.44.04.04.png
Rakkat HM:
http://i.imgur.com/PE2qooE.png (Don't have any combat metrics parses, that's all I can find right now)
You said it yourself, there are guilds that can do it, they are just a minority.That's what competitive guilds are, they are the better 0.0001% of the games population who min/max the *** out of every single fight. Saying you are competitive because you post "good" weeklys, you were the first same faction group to clear vMOL HM (PCNA) and that you had a #1 score 4 months ago is ludicrous.
Wow PC NA sounds toxic asf!
I didn't see anything unreasonable from his post.
You just looked up the poor dude in-game and post all of his trial scores on the Forums, then proceeded to praise your own scores and DPS parses including some vids of yourself to show off
Did he not complete the infamous vMoL HM and get a 120K score in vMoL as well.... like what do people have to do to be considered competitive whilst avoiding the ego-fulfilling drama of endgame in ESO?
Wow PC NA sounds toxic asf!
I didn't see anything unreasonable from his post.
You just looked up the poor dude in-game and post all of his trial scores on the Forums, then proceeded to praise your own scores and DPS parses including some vids of yourself to show off
Did he not complete the infamous vMoL HM and get a 120K score in vMoL as well.... like what do people have to do to be considered competitive whilst avoiding the ego-fulfilling drama of endgame in ESO?
reesenorman wrote: »
Okay so first of all, I can think of only one decent guild that really cares about weekly leaderboards. I did find that you were 1st on the patch before One Tamriel and I applaud you for that, but times have changed and that was like longer than what 4 months ago?
I sound incredibly arrogant but in reality you aren't on the same level as Mechanically Challenged, Order of Mundus, Epic Synergy or No Brakes, that's just my opinion. If you say you are competitive because you got the first single faction clear of vMOL HM on PC/NA then I cant help you, that doesnt even cross anyones mind as a competitive feat.
Your highest scores on 1T patch:
vAA: 93553 (60th PC NA)
vHRC: 97121 (67th PC NA)
vSO: 132954 (45th PC NA)
vMOL: 123847(8th PC NA) - Not bad
Competitive to me isn't about who can clear a piece of content with everyone from the same faction, it's about getting the highest scores possible on trials. Clearly you are interested in a pissing contest otherwise you wouldn't of bragged about your accomplishments and given me something to feed off. Now let me link this to my guild so I can get everyone to give it an awesome hue hue.
Don't assume that because your group is incapable of pulling 50K, all others aren't.
I can link a few fight parses from last night just to prove my point;
Twins:
http://i.imgur.com/o3qZDyd.png
http://i.imgur.com/8Z1Y9f4.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/280541067886198785/281987144958869504/Screenshot_20170216_202840.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/280541067886198785/282039919021654016/Elder_Scrolls_Online_02.17.2017_-_00.44.04.04.png
Rakkat HM:
http://i.imgur.com/PE2qooE.png (Don't have any combat metrics parses, that's all I can find right now)
You said it yourself, there are guilds that can do it, they are just a minority.That's what competitive guilds are, they are the better 0.0001% of the games population who min/max the *** out of every single fight. Saying you are competitive because you post "good" weeklys, you were the first same faction group to clear vMOL HM (PCNA) and that you had a #1 score 4 months ago is ludicrous.
Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »@reesenorman
Obviously, I am a scrub and need to learn to play. Also, I havent cleared any trial other than VMOL outside of a half assed weekly leader board run in months, as we have been working on hardmode. Since homestead, I have frankly been working on other things. I am quite aware that we are all getting a big DPS boost, we always do. Certainly that has not been fully realized by anyone as of yet.
Also, very nice parses. I mean that and know people in your raid. There is some big DPS there. And I'll say the same thing I said before. Yes 50k is very possible, heck 60K is possible on a lot of these fights. Most good raids, ours included, have people pulling in the 50s. But it is not the norm or average. Is it closer this patch? Absolutely. Everyone got a DPS boost. You have less than 50K DPS on average per person if you are pulling group DPS less than about 420k. Tanks and Healers (especially now that healers run light blockade) are pulling 5k DPS a piece. Even if 50k is average on paper, for every person you have pulling 55, you have someone else pulling 45k. Most Raid DPS has a distribution, even among the best guilds. You are going to have a few people pulling big numbers, a few in the middle and a few at the bottom.
Also consider, maybe you arent competitive? Non of those group DPS totals are as high as hodor last patch before the increase, and the math comes to the same thing. There is always a bigger fish. Maybe we are just arguing over semantics, maybe you are just not a very nice person.
Lastly, this is a post about what is good DPS on a target dummy from someone, I am assuming, that is not on the cutting edge of things. As usual, I am just trying to be helpful and give some basic guidelines for people. Then, from out of nowhere, some clown takes a shot at my guild. So yeah, I am gonna be defensive.
Edit: If being competitive means I need to put up with this kind of drama, then I am just fine being a casual pug with my Flawless and Dro-m'Athra Destroyer titles. Now to get back to decorating my house...
anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »Would you "top guys" be kind enough to leave your "epeen-issues", "45K vs. 51K issues" at the door, and answer the OP's question ?
Thank you.
here is my dps parse with sorc pet build, 40k, could have had higher as i ran out of magicka last couple of seconds, no raid buffs were given only drainhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZOZbIMXwuA&t=102s
here is my dps parse using standard BSW setup on magsorc, solo, my applying drain myself, so bit of downtime where i could not use damage ability instead, 36k dpshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9F7ZEVBx4g
hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »
For *** and giggle I took a pet sorc into vMoL...Was hilarrious...the scamp would not target Zhalhassa..he would just stand there and chill obserrving the fight from the sidelines.
dwemer_paleologist wrote: »if you aare getting 50,000 dps your a magicka class. like sorcerer or dragonight or a templar.
stamina nightblade will never reach that, and thats just wrong!
perhaps it bugged or the pet had to be commanded through keybinding to attack the boss