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Completionist Community this patch (VIDEO)
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Epona222✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »Wreuntzylla wrote: »LOL at the people coming into a completionist thread and telling them they can still enjoy the game without completing everything... Next, go down to the local AA meeting and tell all the alcoholics they should start drinking koolaid instead, because they will enjoy koolaid....
Thank you, exactly.Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »And yes, I will eventually get housing achievements and all other achievements, I just expect all of them to take a while and a lot of effort. If it didn't take time and effort, then it's just worthless. I *am* a completionist, but I am a completionist with patience and don't expect to get achievements within 48 hours of release.
Oh post your achievement journal please.Jadednatas wrote: »No one said money or fame.. i said you are a troll for traffic period, an probably shouldn't refer to yourself as a completionist when you whine like this about achievements.. it's supposed to be a lofty goal.. set small goals an keep buildin from there or quit.. no need to waste peoples time with a vid all agree could have been 1/3 as long
Try an have a nice day
Traffic for no reason? So you are saying that was not exactly focused on fame and money? Why would anyone want pure traffic... You wanted to make it out like I did this for attention. Which would be pointless. This effort would not be worth the minuscule monetary gain..
Like I said.. pointless.
I don't want to be rude, but if you are suggesting that I post my "achievement journal" to give validity to my comments, I would suggest that you need to get out more.
You talk like you are a completionist.. prove it.Shadow-Fighter wrote: »I'm not english speaker but i could understand. Thank you to point this out!
Np, you have a good day
I don't measure my success by achievement completion. There are loads of achievements I haven't done. I think the fact that you seem to take it as a measure of a person, and want to judge me by it (and strive for a high achievement score yourself), is really very sad and doesn't say anything good about you.Edited by Epona222 on February 8, 2017 5:42PMGM - Ghost Sea Trading Co - NA PC
Epona was a Romano-Celtic goddess dating back to around 1800 to 2000 years before computer games were invented.2 -
Hortator Indoril Nerevar✭✭✭✭✭
✭DeusExMachina wrote: »Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »DeusExMachina wrote: »"here guys, here is 14 mins of me nonsensically whining, please click it to give me views and ad revenue."
Do you understand how revenue works on youtube? Do you understand how POINTLESS this video is in terms of real dollars.. Why would I want to make a few cents off of people after all this. This is obviously me wanting to say something and not for money...
*Rolls eyes* there are some of you in every MMO community, self important, crying about good click bait topics and popping em in a whine vid to pop em into whine threads, constantly reference the vid and pull out the ole reliable "did you even watch the vid" line. It's become quite transparent after seeing it for so long.
Props for not being as obvious about it as guys like lazy peon, but, that doesn't take that much effort.
And yes I know how YouTube works because I also run a channel that's monetized.
The video was superfluous, your point could have been made with text if you really just wanted to say something not for money, but I guess that wouldn't have gotten you any new traffic to your channel.
Channel name?Pretty sure housing contains the only achievements you can get instantly for the right amount of crowns, which to me makes it less of an accomplishment, so why would you as a completionist go for something like that? If they introduced:Master of the House- Spend 100,000 Crowns in one visit to the crown store
would you even bother?
That would also be unreasonable and I would also complain.0 -
Hortator Indoril Nerevar✭✭✭✭✭
✭Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »Wreuntzylla wrote: »LOL at the people coming into a completionist thread and telling them they can still enjoy the game without completing everything... Next, go down to the local AA meeting and tell all the alcoholics they should start drinking koolaid instead, because they will enjoy koolaid....
Thank you, exactly.Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »And yes, I will eventually get housing achievements and all other achievements, I just expect all of them to take a while and a lot of effort. If it didn't take time and effort, then it's just worthless. I *am* a completionist, but I am a completionist with patience and don't expect to get achievements within 48 hours of release.
Oh post your achievement journal please.Jadednatas wrote: »No one said money or fame.. i said you are a troll for traffic period, an probably shouldn't refer to yourself as a completionist when you whine like this about achievements.. it's supposed to be a lofty goal.. set small goals an keep buildin from there or quit.. no need to waste peoples time with a vid all agree could have been 1/3 as long
Try an have a nice day
Traffic for no reason? So you are saying that was not exactly focused on fame and money? Why would anyone want pure traffic... You wanted to make it out like I did this for attention. Which would be pointless. This effort would not be worth the minuscule monetary gain..
Like I said.. pointless.
I don't want to be rude, but if you are suggesting that I post my "achievement journal" to give validity to my comments, I would suggest that you need to get out more.
You talk like you are a completionist.. prove it.Shadow-Fighter wrote: »I'm not english speaker but i could understand. Thank you to point this out!
Np, you have a good day
I don't measure my success by achievement completion. There are loads of achievements I haven't done. I think the fact that you seem to take it as a measure of a person, and want to judge me by it (and strive for a high achievement score yourself), is really very sad and doesn't say anything good about you.
but you are a completionist right?0 -
Epona222✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »Wreuntzylla wrote: »LOL at the people coming into a completionist thread and telling them they can still enjoy the game without completing everything... Next, go down to the local AA meeting and tell all the alcoholics they should start drinking koolaid instead, because they will enjoy koolaid....
Thank you, exactly.Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »And yes, I will eventually get housing achievements and all other achievements, I just expect all of them to take a while and a lot of effort. If it didn't take time and effort, then it's just worthless. I *am* a completionist, but I am a completionist with patience and don't expect to get achievements within 48 hours of release.
Oh post your achievement journal please.Jadednatas wrote: »No one said money or fame.. i said you are a troll for traffic period, an probably shouldn't refer to yourself as a completionist when you whine like this about achievements.. it's supposed to be a lofty goal.. set small goals an keep buildin from there or quit.. no need to waste peoples time with a vid all agree could have been 1/3 as long
Try an have a nice day
Traffic for no reason? So you are saying that was not exactly focused on fame and money? Why would anyone want pure traffic... You wanted to make it out like I did this for attention. Which would be pointless. This effort would not be worth the minuscule monetary gain..
Like I said.. pointless.
I don't want to be rude, but if you are suggesting that I post my "achievement journal" to give validity to my comments, I would suggest that you need to get out more.
You talk like you are a completionist.. prove it.Shadow-Fighter wrote: »I'm not english speaker but i could understand. Thank you to point this out!
Np, you have a good day
I don't measure my success by achievement completion. There are loads of achievements I haven't done. I think the fact that you seem to take it as a measure of a person, and want to judge me by it (and strive for a high achievement score yourself), is really very sad and doesn't say anything good about you.
but you are a completionist right?
Not really, no.
I'll get completion on stuff eventually, while you stress about getting it now.Edited by Epona222 on February 8, 2017 5:45PMGM - Ghost Sea Trading Co - NA PC
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Hortator Indoril Nerevar✭✭✭✭✭
✭Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »Wreuntzylla wrote: »LOL at the people coming into a completionist thread and telling them they can still enjoy the game without completing everything... Next, go down to the local AA meeting and tell all the alcoholics they should start drinking koolaid instead, because they will enjoy koolaid....
Thank you, exactly.Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »And yes, I will eventually get housing achievements and all other achievements, I just expect all of them to take a while and a lot of effort. If it didn't take time and effort, then it's just worthless. I *am* a completionist, but I am a completionist with patience and don't expect to get achievements within 48 hours of release.
Oh post your achievement journal please.Jadednatas wrote: »No one said money or fame.. i said you are a troll for traffic period, an probably shouldn't refer to yourself as a completionist when you whine like this about achievements.. it's supposed to be a lofty goal.. set small goals an keep buildin from there or quit.. no need to waste peoples time with a vid all agree could have been 1/3 as long
Try an have a nice day
Traffic for no reason? So you are saying that was not exactly focused on fame and money? Why would anyone want pure traffic... You wanted to make it out like I did this for attention. Which would be pointless. This effort would not be worth the minuscule monetary gain..
Like I said.. pointless.
I don't want to be rude, but if you are suggesting that I post my "achievement journal" to give validity to my comments, I would suggest that you need to get out more.
You talk like you are a completionist.. prove it.Shadow-Fighter wrote: »I'm not english speaker but i could understand. Thank you to point this out!
Np, you have a good day
I don't measure my success by achievement completion. There are loads of achievements I haven't done. I think the fact that you seem to take it as a measure of a person, and want to judge me by it (and strive for a high achievement score yourself), is really very sad and doesn't say anything good about you.
but you are a completionist right?
Not really, no.
I'll get completion on stuff eventually, while you stress about getting it now.
So when you said you are a completionist and put value to your comment about how if you can wait all other completionist can wait you lied?0 -
SickDuck✭✭✭✭✭Got all housing achievements on the first day. Sorry to hear that OP is poor, but no need to give up.
Seriously I wish those were the hardest ones or the most tedious in game.Holdviola - Khira'de Regalo - Lélekvadász - Used To Be An Adventurer - Zetor - Does-Not-Give-A-Duck - Lord Sugar - Tenar Arha - Da'rinka - Violent Moon - Extreme Runner2 -
Hortator Indoril Nerevar✭✭✭✭✭
✭Got all housing achievements on the first day. Sorry to hear that OP is poor, but no need to give up.
Seriously I wish those were the hardest ones or the most tedious in game.
I could also, unreasonable does not mean I will though. I have around 15M... its beside the point though and also I said that in the video....Edited by Hortator Indoril Nerevar on February 8, 2017 6:02PM0 -
KochDerDamonen✭✭✭✭✭
✭You are not worthy calling yourself a completionist if you give up that fast.
Big difference between a reasonable goal and a unreasonable goal. [/quote]
Reasonable and Unreasonable are subjective, some people around here have gotten the master fishing title 12 times
If you quote someone, and intend for them to see what you have said, be sure to Mention them with @[insert name].2 -
Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Okay after watching the video I stand by previous posts.
The achievements are viable if you put in reasonable effort as you've said, you just need to grind and sell the correct items.
Also the market right now is a ripe with money making opportunities and new demands due to the changes from the last patch.@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
"Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."1 -
ZOS_JohanaB✭✭✭✭Lots of comments have been removed from this thread. Please remember to be constructive when posting and beware of bait. When you come across bait do not reply simply hit the report button and let Mods handle it.Edited by ZOS_JohanaB on February 8, 2017 6:40PM3 -
Hortator Indoril Nerevar✭✭✭✭✭
✭ZOS_JohanaB wrote: »Lots of comments have been removed from this thread. Please remember to be constructive when posting and beware of bait. When you come across bait do not reply simply hit the report button and let Mods handle it.
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Tandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »Wreuntzylla wrote: »LOL at the people coming into a completionist thread and telling them they can still enjoy the game without completing everything... Next, go down to the local AA meeting and tell all the alcoholics they should start drinking koolaid instead, because they will enjoy koolaid....
Thank you, exactly.Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »And yes, I will eventually get housing achievements and all other achievements, I just expect all of them to take a while and a lot of effort. If it didn't take time and effort, then it's just worthless. I *am* a completionist, but I am a completionist with patience and don't expect to get achievements within 48 hours of release.
Oh post your achievement journal please.Jadednatas wrote: »No one said money or fame.. i said you are a troll for traffic period, an probably shouldn't refer to yourself as a completionist when you whine like this about achievements.. it's supposed to be a lofty goal.. set small goals an keep buildin from there or quit.. no need to waste peoples time with a vid all agree could have been 1/3 as long
Try an have a nice day
Traffic for no reason? So you are saying that was not exactly focused on fame and money? Why would anyone want pure traffic... You wanted to make it out like I did this for attention. Which would be pointless. This effort would not be worth the minuscule monetary gain..
Like I said.. pointless.
I don't want to be rude, but if you are suggesting that I post my "achievement journal" to give validity to my comments, I would suggest that you need to get out more.
You talk like you are a completionist.. prove it.Shadow-Fighter wrote: »I'm not english speaker but i could understand. Thank you to point this out!
Np, you have a good day
I don't measure my success by achievement completion. There are loads of achievements I haven't done. I think the fact that you seem to take it as a measure of a person, and want to judge me by it (and strive for a high achievement score yourself), is really very sad and doesn't say anything good about you.
but you are a completionist right?
Not really, no.
I'll get completion on stuff eventually, while you stress about getting it now.
So when you said you are a completionist and put value to your comment about how if you can wait all other completionist can wait you lied?
I'm intrigued that other people's critical posts are deleted for being non-constructive/bait but the OP can accuse another player of having lied and that stays. An interesting precedent.
Anyway, back to the topic:-
I suspect most of us are completionists in the sense that we want to do all the content, it's just that not everyone feels a compulsion to do it all or a need to do it within a certain time-frame, nor is it our prime purpose in playing the game. That's more in the nature of obsessive or absolute completionism.
Personally I strive to get all the achievements relative to my style of play (which is how you described it) but I know I'm playing a game like this one for years rather than weeks or months and therefore I can afford to take my time and pick up things like achievements as I go. I do make sure before I leave a zone that I have all the adventuring achievements (exploration, quests completed, skyshards) but I'm happy to leave the fishing ones until much later and dip in and out of those ones over time (not least because I may one day run out of adventuring content and will then have something else to fall back on), while I'm not interested in group dungeons so those are left too (again, that may change later on and with the benefit of One Tamriel there's no particular timescale to the content as it can be done at any level). What I am interested in, I want to complete - but not necessarily this week, this month, or even this year - and if for some reason I can't do so then it doesn't drive me from the game.Edited by Tandor on February 8, 2017 8:39PM2 -
Stopnaggin✭✭✭✭✭
✭Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »Stopnaggin wrote: »Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »-shrug-
I see this type of issue come up all the time in other MMOs. Same stuff, different channel.
It is what it is.
Yea it is very common I agree.You are not worthy calling yourself a completionist if you give up that fast.
Although I still don't know what the complaint is about, I tend to agree - I have been playing since beta, and with one of my current characters since early access, I just got Master Angler title last week - I couldn't be happier! If I got any achievement easily, it wouldn't be an achievement, it would just be something that everyone had, and therefore worthless.
I love how you dont watch the video (for what ever reason) yet you chime in saying your opinion. Wise actions of a wise man.Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »I have no idea what the video was about because I am hard of hearing (thanks for providing a brief text summary of the issue - not!)
But if this is a gripe about how it is going to take a hundred million years to get all the achievements, let me assure you that 100%ing the achievements in a game is NOT necessary in order to enjoy it. I've been gaming for long before achievements even existed, I enjoyed games without them, and I although I quite like them now they are here, I can live without 100%ing a game and still enjoy it. It's as though everyone wants some sort of award these days.
Volume is fine at 20+
You obviously didn't watch as that is mentioned in the video.. Not everyone plays for the same reason. Its not hard to understand that people play for different reasons... pvp, pve, leader boards, achievements, social etc. So why think why YOU play is the ONLY reason people play...
Do you not understand the words "hard of hearing"? Perhaps I should spell it out for you, I am mostly DEAF and CANNOT HEAR the audio on that - please post some brief summary of what it is about.
My guess is OP is hard of seeing.
As for the video, can't watch with sound from where I am (will when I get home), but most achievements can be earned with fellow hunters by working together for much faster returns. If this comment is not on key with the videos issue will address later when I have watched.
Was unaware of the sound issue as its playing fine for me. I am not blind but I put up a thread with VIDEO in the title and someone wants a text file of what I am talking about. I dont need to do anything for him.
You certainly are a salty as hell. Sorry some achievements are hard as hell to obtain. It is what it is. 10th prestige in COD WAW, GoW seriously 3.0 come to mind. A few others I can't recall from the Halo series. If you want an achievement go get it, if you can't be bothered, then dont.
Reasonable vs Unreasonable.
What exactly is reasonable compared to unreasonable? That would be a matter of opinion. Is it reasonable to make clothing, blacksmithing and Woodworking take a year and a half, when I can get provisioning, alchemy and enchanting in a day? Is it reasonable to expect someone to go through 9 more prestige ranks after you get the first? Depends on your perspective I guess. I personally think that putting time in or skill, which equates to time, to gain an achievement is perfectly fine. Master angler is a perfect example of a title that takes a certain tenacity to complete. Does that make it unreasonable? How about Flawless Conquerer, takes skill, aquired through time, to get it. Is it unreasonably hard? Just because you see something as unreasonable does not mean everyone has to have the same point of view.3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Okay after watching the video I stand by previous posts.
The achievements are viable if you put in reasonable effort as you've said, you just need to grind and sell the correct items.
Also the market right now is a ripe with money making opportunities and new demands due to the changes from the last patch.
The real issue is that someone can just buy the achievement with real money and not have to put in any of that effort.Edited by MLGProPlayer on February 8, 2017 9:01PM0 -
AlMcFly✭✭✭✭✭
✭Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »You obviously didn't watch as that is mentioned in the video.. Not everyone plays for the same reason.
ZOS is not obligated to design their game in order to appease all play styles. Nor should they be. Perhaps you should change yourself, rather than demand others change to conform to your wishes.2 -
Reivax✭✭✭✭I am guessing that the inability to reveal all dye colors without pvp achievements must drive you mad. It does me.0 -
Hortator Indoril Nerevar✭✭✭✭✭
✭Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »Wreuntzylla wrote: »LOL at the people coming into a completionist thread and telling them they can still enjoy the game without completing everything... Next, go down to the local AA meeting and tell all the alcoholics they should start drinking koolaid instead, because they will enjoy koolaid....
Thank you, exactly.Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »And yes, I will eventually get housing achievements and all other achievements, I just expect all of them to take a while and a lot of effort. If it didn't take time and effort, then it's just worthless. I *am* a completionist, but I am a completionist with patience and don't expect to get achievements within 48 hours of release.
Oh post your achievement journal please.Jadednatas wrote: »No one said money or fame.. i said you are a troll for traffic period, an probably shouldn't refer to yourself as a completionist when you whine like this about achievements.. it's supposed to be a lofty goal.. set small goals an keep buildin from there or quit.. no need to waste peoples time with a vid all agree could have been 1/3 as long
Try an have a nice day
Traffic for no reason? So you are saying that was not exactly focused on fame and money? Why would anyone want pure traffic... You wanted to make it out like I did this for attention. Which would be pointless. This effort would not be worth the minuscule monetary gain..
Like I said.. pointless.
I don't want to be rude, but if you are suggesting that I post my "achievement journal" to give validity to my comments, I would suggest that you need to get out more.
You talk like you are a completionist.. prove it.Shadow-Fighter wrote: »I'm not english speaker but i could understand. Thank you to point this out!
Np, you have a good day
I don't measure my success by achievement completion. There are loads of achievements I haven't done. I think the fact that you seem to take it as a measure of a person, and want to judge me by it (and strive for a high achievement score yourself), is really very sad and doesn't say anything good about you.
but you are a completionist right?
Not really, no.
I'll get completion on stuff eventually, while you stress about getting it now.
So when you said you are a completionist and put value to your comment about how if you can wait all other completionist can wait you lied?
I'm intrigued that other people's critical posts are deleted for being non-constructive/bait but the OP can accuse another player of having lied and that stays. An interesting precedent.
They said they are a completionist, they said they are not a completionist. Point being they said they are a completionist to try and make a point which was strengthened only if you also are a completionist, when they are in fact and said them self they are not.
Interesting precedent? How so, he lied and I said he did. By his own admission.
Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »You obviously didn't watch as that is mentioned in the video.. Not everyone plays for the same reason.
ZOS is not obligated to design their game in order to appease all play styles. Nor should they be. Perhaps you should change yourself, rather than demand others change to conform to your wishes.
Correct they do not. However this video is aimed at completionist who now have had their reason for playing taken away from them. They and myself included have the choice to either leave, play a different way or many other things.. that does not change the fact that I can say something. Do you also believe that all pvpers should keep their mouth closed when they feel proc sets got broken? Do you think all pve leader board players should shut up about how vMol was being soloed and the achivs got given out free to people who exploited?
Edited by Hortator Indoril Nerevar on February 8, 2017 11:20PM0
