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Frags!?!?!
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ZOS gj with frags. Now they can hit u with a sec between and also stay on you forever when u try to cloak away. u really want to totally extinguish nb as it is supposed to be played. [snip]
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Edited by ZOS_DaryaK on February 7, 2017 8:03PM [edited to remove profanity]
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I believe it's due to the fact if you hit a NB with Frags, and they cloak or go invisible, those additional ticks still keep on proccing.AlphaNicole wrote: »Wut?0 -
austinwalter87ub17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Nightblades getting killed due to bs? That's what it has felt like to get jumped by a Nightblade for the last 2 years.
No sympathy.PC and PS4 (bring back character transfers please?)
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✭✭✭Edited by Mashille on February 7, 2017 8:24PMHouse Baratheon: 'Ours Is The Fury'4 -
IcyDeadPeople✭✭✭✭✭
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I believe it's due to the fact if you hit a NB with Frags, and they cloak or go invisible, those additional ticks still keep on proccing.AlphaNicole wrote: »Wut?
Additional ticks of crystal fragments? What do you mean?1 -
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People were under the impression, that Wrobel is a Nightblade player, because he kept them supreme for a very long time.
Auri-El is my lord,
Trinimac is my shield,
Magnus is my mind.
My debut album on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Gleandra/videos2 -
scorpiodog✭✭✭✭✭ZOS gj with frags. Now they can hit u with a sec between and also stay on you forever when u try to cloak away. u really want to totally extinguish nb as it is supposed to be played. [snip]
NB are supposed to die a grisly death on the battlefield - with just the hope that you can take at least one person down from stealth.
That's why my Stam NB is my primary crafter. It seemed a waste to put all those skill points into getting slaughtered.
[edited to match quoted content]Edited by ZOS_DaryaK on February 7, 2017 8:04PM1 -
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I believe it's due to the fact if you hit a NB with Frags, and they cloak or go invisible, those additional ticks still keep on proccing.AlphaNicole wrote: »Wut?
Additional ticks? What additional ticks? Frag just has a single time damage component.4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Curse maybe?
If that's the case: 1. Curse not a DoT 2. Was never purged by Cloak 3. Is Sorc's only counter to invis players.3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »
I believe it's due to the fact if you hit a NB with Frags, and they cloak or go invisible, those additional ticks still keep on proccing.AlphaNicole wrote: »Wut?
Additional ticks? What additional ticks? Frag just has a single time damage component.
I think the point is that something apparently changedBeta tester November 20130 -
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I was thinking of Curse, my bad.Waffennacht wrote: »
I believe it's due to the fact if you hit a NB with Frags, and they cloak or go invisible, those additional ticks still keep on proccing.AlphaNicole wrote: »Wut?
Additional ticks? What additional ticks? Frag just has a single time damage component.0 -
Minalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭It is curse. With a 3.5 second cook time, it pulls them out of a four second cloak and can be immediately reapplied. That part is no different than before.
But now, even if they manage to escape after being cursed, it blows up again 8.5 second later. A nightblade trying to cloak-escape can't heal (vigor pulls you out) so it often kills them.
Seriously though, after the proc set kills last patch, I have the tiniest violin in the world here playing a sad song for stam nightblades.24 -
Glamdring✭✭✭✭✭[snip]curse i mean and it totally destroys how a NBs is supposed to be played, now we can resign to shooting ballista at keepwalls, thanks again Zos and *** you all haters.
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Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It is curse. With a 3.5 second cook time, it pulls them out of a four second cloak and can be immediately reapplied. That part is no different than before.
But now, even if they manage to escape after being cursed, it blows up again 8.5 second later. A nightblade trying to cloak-escape can't heal (vigor pulls you out) so it often kills them.
Seriously though, after the proc set kills last patch, I have the tiniest violin in the world here playing a sad song for stam nightblades.
Kinda harsh...
But kinda how I feel about it...0 -
Hurika✭✭✭✭NB has no class damage shield or class self heal that's not a DOT. Everyone can dodge roll. Cloak is used to mitigate damage just as others would use shield and heals. It's a mechanic issues that affects survivability. Ironically people hate NBs cause of glass cannon and 1-shot spec but don't bother to realize if you break their ability to mitigate damage more will be inclined to go glass cannon as a result of taking away other options.Edited by Hurika on February 7, 2017 8:01PM5
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✭✭Mag sorcs got some significant buffs this patch with curse being a lot stronger, 200% health & phys/spell resist of pets, 25% damage boost to atronach and force pulse / crushing shock no longer reflectable.
Were they having that much trouble before? Generally they have been performing quite well in PVP at least, for a long time.Edited by IcyDeadPeople on February 7, 2017 8:15PM1 -
Glamdring✭✭✭✭✭Yeah, forgot about that option, bye bye kiteblade and hello full gankblade. Time to respecc and drop impen and stamrecovery and go full divines and shadow and drop thoose asses before they even have time to react. Cya on the ground on the battlefield. oh wait u will never know what hit ya. Peace and out4
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✭so, nb - the worst dps in pve (skipping stamplar to stam version dps) got nerf by increase cost of death stroke
and with next patch to patch nb is easier and easier to kill on pvp, cloak broken more, if fixed it getting next counter and fix is invisible because of next counter to cloak etc
nb now isnt worth playing in any other playstyle as ganging, open fight it suck, pve dps suck, worst tank in eso ever, very bad healer, mablade now as bomblade, nothing else, stamblade as gangbade, no more options to how play as nb, tyvm zos for *BALANCE* patch1 -
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✭Don't worry OP us DKs suffered the same problem, they made force pulse unreflectable.
The devs are now making Sorcs Noob friendly again so some people can actually L2P.Edited by Anti_Virus on February 7, 2017 11:33PMPower Wealth And Influence.3 -
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✭✭Yeah, forgot about that option, bye bye kiteblade and hello full gankblade. Time to respecc and drop impen and stamrecovery and go full divines and shadow and drop thoose asses before they even have time to react. Cya on the ground on the battlefield. oh wait u will never know what hit ya. Peace and out
Miat's addon begs to differIf you want me to reply to your comment type @Ankael07 in it.0 -
Glamdring✭✭✭✭✭Yeah, forgot about that option, bye bye kiteblade and hello full gankblade. Time to respecc and drop impen and stamrecovery and go full divines and shadow and drop thoose asses before they even have time to react. Cya on the ground on the battlefield. oh wait u will never know what hit ya. Peace and out
Miat's addon begs to differ
Miat RIP, doesnt work anymore, so no crutches for you anymore.
Edited by Glamdring on February 7, 2017 9:07PM4 -
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✭✭✭✭IcyDeadPeople wrote: »Mag sorcs got some significant buffs this patch with curse being a lot stronger, 200% health & phys/spell resist of pets, 25% damage boost to atronach and force pulse / crushing shock no longer reflectable.
Were they having that much trouble before? Generally they have been performing quite well in PVP at least, for a long time.
1. Destro staff is a buff for every magicka class. You forget there are three others including... mag nightblades, who actually needed the help.
2. Lol pets in open PVP.
3. Storm Atro sucked and you know it did. Most people ignored it completely before, today you can still CC it, and it still doesn't move. Yesterday I saw some people try it out, but it still didn't KILL anyone like meteor or DBoS does.
4. DK also got a nice heal to compensate them for taking measly 1.5K-2K force pulse beam attacks. FP doesn't kill anyone. Frags does, and that's still reflected.
Curse got a buff we didn't really ask for or want, and destro staff was behind other weapons, except for the one ridiculous ultimate. Serious, take a look at the spell damage it gives over dual wield.7
