Just a few observations about dueling pvp etc

Banetek

PvP and Dueling are not the same... Sure you can argue its a player versus another player and that's true but generally speaking pvping in the pvp zone versus a duel is not the same.

Dueling Both sides prepped , ready, each person sized up the other etc...

PvP. Raw, anything goes, any and everything is fair game to kill the other guy...

Now I know I left out RP dueling, that's because staged dueling or also called Glamour dueling is it real dueling or PvP ( for the staged pvp events that happen in cyro )

Ok, another thing I noticed is the amount of grumbling about potions.. Personally I don't see how its a big deal, especially if you are dueling to practice those 1v1 encounters or just train your self for your encounter rotation, either way you should just agree before the duel if potions are allowed or not..


Just my two cents.

Banetek

Meant to say RP glamour dueling is NOT real dueling...

Turelus

The question is though, who is the better PvP player.

The one who wins 1v1's or the one who wins the most open world fights?

NightbladeMechanics

@Turelus open world imo. Dueling is way simpler, safer, and more predictable.

leepalmer95

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

@Turelus open world imo. Dueling is way simpler, safer, and more predictable.

Most duelers are better players though.

thankyourat

leepalmer95 wrote: »

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

@Turelus open world imo. Dueling is way simpler, safer, and more predictable.

Most duelers are better players though.

I don't know about that. I feel most duelers play designed dueling builds that aren't practical for open world cyrodiil. It's the main reason why I stopped dueling. I find solo open world cyrodiil more challenging and rewarding, and while I do win most of the duels I fight, I don't switch my build for dueling. I duel with my open world set up, and at times it can feel pretty ridiculous fighting someone with a dueling build while you are on your open world build. The best players I fight tend to be other solo open world PVPers like myself. With that being said most solo PVPers were duelist at one point. I feel dueling is a great stepping stool in being a good solo PVPer.

Waffennacht

thankyourat wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

@Turelus open world imo. Dueling is way simpler, safer, and more predictable.

Most duelers are better players though.

I don't know about that. I feel most duelers play designed dueling builds that aren't practical for open world cyrodiil. It's the main reason why I stopped dueling. I find solo open world cyrodiil more challenging and rewarding, and while I do win most of the duels I fight, I don't switch my build for dueling. I duel with my open world set up, and at times it can feel pretty ridiculous fighting someone with a dueling build while you are on your open world build. The best players I fight tend to be other solo open world PVPers like myself. With that being said most solo PVPers were duelist at one point. I feel dueling is a great stepping stool in being a good solo PVPer.

Yes, but most of those great PvPers duel because lack of population in Cyrodiil or zergs, but yes they do both.

Duelers (the good ones) are typically WAY better than the players I found in Cyrodiil. But typically same dudes.

Banetek wrote: »

PvP and Dueling are not the same... Sure you can argue its a player versus another player and that's true but generally speaking pvping in the pvp zone versus a duel is not the same.

Dueling Both sides prepped , ready, each person sized up the other etc...

PvP. Raw, anything goes, any and everything is fair game to kill the other guy...

Now I know I left out RP dueling, that's because staged dueling or also called Glamour dueling is it real dueling or PvP ( for the staged pvp events that happen in cyro )

Ok, another thing I noticed is the amount of grumbling about potions.. Personally I don't see how its a big deal, especially if you are dueling to practice those 1v1 encounters or just train your self for your encounter rotation, either way you should just agree before the duel if potions are allowed or not..


Just my two cents.

Potions are no problem. However, I freaking HATE it when someone goes to Duel then goes, "oh you have a staff? Time to equip magicka resource poisons!" - that's fing cheap, and is low. You don't change your build just to beat one player... wtf, that's not a duel, that's just lopsided BS you'll never see in Open World.

My new strategy against poisons is I walk around on my DW bar, makes people think Im a stam sorc, TAKE THAT POISON user!

MakoFore

open world pvp is totally different to duelling. in duels i always go the sword and shield, 2hander- in open world i this bow and 2hander is probably more common.

in open world u need range, skills to break LOS, burst , in duelling its more important to have sustain, defence, DOT's, and a range of CC and snares. duelling is about control. open world is about burst and positioning. I've seen certain top players excel in one- become Emp for example and suck at the other- and i ve seen top duellers not be able to position themselves in a small scale fight. Dk's for example- the alpha dog in duels - struggle in open world for this reason.
its kind of like one on one basketball versus full court. very different slottable skills also.