Will the Warden Kill ESO?

deadlyhuwe

I brought this up in another thread. Seasoned players know how bad crown store pets are. Even running one in VMA is a poor choice. Try running one in a trial without it being brought to attention. The lag caused I assume is a reason they aren't allowed in Cyrodiil. Follow mechanics maybe?
The fact that ZOS sells these things when their own code can't support them is bewildering. Now they want to let people buy a class, not a pet, based on this. Fengrush brought up a point a year or so ago. He said ZOS is releasing things they already had. This fits that theory. It's a class that most likely is based on existing character models, which is fine. It's just that this model is based on some mechanic that may slow down the game.
Some people can say that Zos wouldn't do that. Look in the crown store for non-combat pets. So the question isn't if they would release it. But would they release a full expansion with that flaw. If people buy this expansion and suddenly raid groups won't let them run it due to lag. Zos will say it's play the way you want to play or whatever. It's the solo class. So they beef them up to make them more appealing. You get OP Wardens saturating Battlegrounds. Zos has a problem balancing between pvp/pve. Wait for the pvp/pve/bg balancing issues.

Lord_Eomer

Lol another troller, even 4 months to Morrowind release!

If ZOS not release contents then also everyone is complaining.

Developers knows best and let them handle Morrowind release!

Darlon

No.

Sneaky-Snurr

No.

JesterH

Lol

deadlyhuwe

I'm not trolling and I tried to make some valid points. I would love for Zos to continue releasing good content. Why wouldn't I? If you average $100 dollars a month, I probably sunk a thousand dollars into this game. It's just a topic.

esotoon

deadlyhuwe wrote: »

I'm not trolling and I tried to make some valid points. I would love for Zos to continue releasing good content. Why wouldn't I? If you average $100 dollars a month, I probably sunk a thousand dollars into this game. It's just a topic.

Dont think its so much you post/concerns. Probably more a reaction to your thread title.

SwimsWithMemes

What do you mean by running crown store pets in a trial? I have never heard of any guilds asking people to turn off their pets.

Are you complaining about summoned pets (Clannfear etc) and worry the Wardens will have poor aggro? Or are you complaining about purely cosmetic pets lagging the game out?

Betheny

WTH? Why OP, why?

menedhyn

No.

LordGavus

ESO can not die.
ESO is immortal.
ESO is forever.

g00gleyes

we don't even know the specifics of the class yet!
wtf man calm down and breathe.

deadlyhuwe

Crown store pets. the ps4 is crap with rendering lightning. throw in a pet and it kills performance. I don't notice a difference myself with sorc pets. but others will complain.
My experience is with vma, when I forgot to turn off my pet. I was dying quite a bit when i had a pet running with lag kills. I turned it off and continued dying on the next stage due to incompetence.
But there is some issues. I never noticed until I turned off the pet.

But fine I'll stfu. I'm not trying to wind people up.

Vaoh

It'll have the opposite effect. The Warden will be great for ESO.

DHale

Aaaaahhhhhhh, NO!

ShadowHvo

No.

Darlon

This thread is a prime example of how a poorly chosen thread title can derail an entire thread...

Betheny

Darlon wrote: »

This thread is a prime example of how a poorly chosen thread title can derail an entire thread...

It's more fun this way.

LordGavus

Darlon wrote: »

This thread is a prime example of how a poorly chosen thread title can derail an entire thread...

The gamble if a clickbait-ish title I guess.

Vipstaakki

No.

alephthiago

Why do people get into some strong stuff and then come here to post things like this?

Phica_Lovic

deadlyhuwe wrote: »

Seasoned players know how bad crown store pets are.

What. Are You Even. Talking...

About.

Phica_Lovic

Wait, is this post about lag from non-combat pets?

Or is he saying that a new class will somehow lag the game out more - instead of the same amount of lag? As if a player is carrying a warden and his animations behind him?

"Oh, hai. I'm a NB and this is my Combat pet: Wardy the Warden"

Editted for patronizing.

deadlyhuwe

I wasn't looking for click-bait. I tried to divide the body of the post with the subject.
I am sorry, I suck at the written word. Conversely, there is only one way to get good at it. Which is having people telling my what a xxxx I am. Which I do hear alot. I can say I honestly just tried to have a discussion. nothing more or less.

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Phica_Lovic

deadlyhuwe wrote: »

I wasn't looking for click-bait. I tried to divide the body of the post with the subject.
I am sorry, I suck at the written word. Conversely, there is only one way to get good at it. Which is having people telling my what a xxxx I am. Which I do hear alot. I can say I honestly just tried to have a discussion. nothing more or less.

So is the problem here non-combat pets? Because if we're comparing non-combat pets to the Warden... it's not really an equivalent comparison.

What you should do is compare the Warden to... let's say the Sorc's pets. That's a much more apt analogy - and ppl might understand you more.

Phica_Lovic

deadlyhuwe wrote: »

Crown store pets. the ps4 is crap with rendering lightning. throw in a pet and it kills performance. I don't notice a difference myself with sorc pets. but others will complain.
My experience is with vma, when I forgot to turn off my pet. I was dying quite a bit when i had a pet running with lag kills. I turned it off and continued dying on the next stage due to incompetence.
But there is some issues. I never noticed until I turned off the pet.

But fine I'll stfu. I'm not trying to wind people up.

Okay, I understand now. So here's my question. Why are you comparing the Warden class to a non-combat pet? As if they're similar in any way regarding lag or FPS?

deadlyhuwe

Ok I'm on the ropes here. yeah I ran trials and I have heard people say they are lagging. The crown asks if people have pets out. If you haven't heard it fine. I don't need to hear about it.
Lag behind? My question is If you take a pet mechanic and make a class out of it, maybe it will be bad. You all can stroke your egos with picking on someone that was trying to start a simple disussion. stupid or otherwise.

Man fear the majority yeah. just know your place and stfu. Fine start another thread on a cookie cutter build or how you can't wait for the expansion to come out. lol.

LordGavus

deadlyhuwe wrote: »

I wasn't looking for click-bait. I tried to divide the body of the post with the subject.
I am sorry, I suck at the written word. Conversely, there is only one way to get good at it. Which is having people telling my what a xxxx I am. Which I do hear alot. I can say I honestly just tried to have a discussion. nothing more or less.

All good.
Perhaps a better title could have mentioned lag issues with non combat pets and the addition of another pet class (I think that is what your concern is?)

Perhaps: will warden pets, sorc pets and non combat pets together cause major lag issues.
Or something like that.
It might not be catchy but it atleast mentions pets, lag and isn't alarmist.

Akrasjel

This is bad /o\

Tommy_The_Gun

"Will the Warden Kill ESO?"

No. It will not. It will only bring more live to it .

Btw. I understand your concern. Imagine this situation in cyrodiil PvP:

30 vs 30 vs 30 (all factions in one place, one big fight) Everybody is warden and has a bear pet. Add some destro ults to the mix and you will probably end up in 999 ping lag storm...
(it is only a prediction and like many other predictions it might be false).

But relax and don't worry. We know almost nothing about warden's skills. Only unofficial speculations. So for now there is nothing to worry about.