So now I have to buy the Expansion and extra character slots just to play the Warden??

Bigevilpeter

AlnilamE wrote: »

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

So ... You want free stuff because you're an altoholic?

Just trying to understand your side of things.

Its not free stuff, its a logical thing to do since a lot of the older players probably filled all their character slots and most importantly it doesn't cost them a thing and at the same time their starting 8 character slots is the lowest I saw in any MMO.

If that doesn't make sense to you then thats your problem

I don't know what MMOs you played, but I've played GW2 (1 slot free and then 3 more slots if you buy the game), Black Desert (started with 4 free slots and added 2 more when they added extra classes) and The Secret World (3 slots).

Those are all far less than 8 slots out of the box.

That said, I wouldn't complain about a free character slot, but I've still not expanded to 12, like some of my friends did, so I have room to grow.

I'm talking about WoW and SWTOR and one of the games you mentioned added slots when they added a new class which is logical. And im guess gw gives you more if you sub or something havent played it yet but im sure this cant be it.

The other ones u mentioned should have also something like that other than they are already not very popular games im talking about the AAA mmos

Bigevilpeter

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Your pointing out yet another reality from a developer who doesn't offer customer friendly opportunity in exchange for real money.

Comments will treat you like you're crazy or off

Ya know they...ZOS...even use the suggestion that it's like other MMO expansions but then they say ESO isn't like any other MMO

They continue to use double speak

Maybe for you it's a good idea not to buy it.
I think we have all yet again reached that point where it just may not be worth it

I'm seriously considering not buying the expansion if I wont have slots for the warden anyways and the new zone is not a big deal for me as long as there any no new dungeons. I don't care about trials

nine9six

Okay?

jedtb16_ESO

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Personally I haven't bought any extra character slots so far, I have 8 slots one magika and one stamina of each class almost all full leveled horse trained etc.

With the release of Morrowind I will have to upgrade the game for 40$ then add another 30$ for 2 extra warden slots??

Really ZOS?? you will add a new class and punish those who actually play the game a lot and have a lot of characters by not giving something as simple as a free 2 extra character slots which won't cost you a thing? 8 was already very low for any MMO I have ever played.

The greed is getting worse over time and I'm starting to reach my limit. I paid a lot in this game and really enjoy it but things like that just feels cheap and really puts me off from this game.

no, you don't have to do any of it.

Siekobilly_ESO

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Siekobilly_ESO wrote: »

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

I had heard 2 slots come with the expansion,

Is that not correct?

2 extra slots you can pay for

I still don't see the problem. You can buy extra slots now, in the crown store.

Why should ZOS "gift" you with slots?

Why would you defend an arguably anti-consumer practice. I'm not being an ass, I'm genuinely curious as to why you are defending this. I'd agree if the new class was free, but being paid for content makes it a bad move on ZOS's part. I'd also challenge you to find an MMO that introduced a class with a paid for expansion that did not provide an extra character slot with said purchase. I researched it, and couldn't find one. It's just something nice that companies do when you spend your hard earned money on their product.

I... don't actually have any onus to defend my position on anything.

But, Socratic method: Why should ZOS take the time and effort to create something as deep and involved as an entirely new Character Class, work it into their story for Morrowind, retroactively update the code so that it works with the base game, but yet give it to you "for free"?

As I've said before; it's up to you on how you manage your individual stables' of characters. Delete one or two, buy one or two new character slots... whatever. ZOS gives you complete control over that, and the ability to have more space than the base game allows. But that's YOUR personal decision.

Why should ZOS spend the effort and man hours to create a new class, just to "give it away"?

But we're not asking for the class for free. It's just a character slot, not the class itself. The class being behind a pay wall isn't the issue, at least not for me. It's all about the slot being behind a pay wall that I take issue with. I'd even be alright with the GW2 model with Heart of Thorns; pre-order came with a character slot if your account was old enough (veteran perk), or you could get the Deluxe, or the higher version to get a character slot. For non-veteran accounts that only got the basic version of HoT they didn't get a slot.

Runs

I mean when you think about it logically, they should have factored one or two slots into the price to begin with. You can't tell me that it never crossed any of the minds at ZOS.

What if they intended to have one or two slots included in the price, but instead they decided to wait and see the communities reaction?

From the ZOS side of it though, since Morrowind is an expansion and it will cover both servers when you buy it, any slots they gave would go on each server. Essentially making 2 slots potentially be a 6000 crown 'loss'.


Personally I would rather see a class change token added, and everybody who buys Morrowind given 1 that is only good for switching to Warden. Then I could finally be rid of my DK without the regret of losing my mount upgrades/achievements.

Tandor

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

The bare minimum should be 2 slots for each class so you can have a mgika and a stamina of each class if you want. Its not irreasonable to as for as much, but there are those who will defend ZOS no matter what

Just as there are those who will attack ZOS no matter what.

ZOS could send someone round to every player's door with a free bottle of wine and a box of chocolates, and within 10 minutes there would be a 10-page thread condemning them for their insensitivity to alcoholics and the obese. No matter what they do, there are some they can never please.

AlnilamE

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

AlnilamE wrote: »

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

So ... You want free stuff because you're an altoholic?

Just trying to understand your side of things.

Its not free stuff, its a logical thing to do since a lot of the older players probably filled all their character slots and most importantly it doesn't cost them a thing and at the same time their starting 8 character slots is the lowest I saw in any MMO.

If that doesn't make sense to you then thats your problem

I don't know what MMOs you played, but I've played GW2 (1 slot free and then 3 more slots if you buy the game), Black Desert (started with 4 free slots and added 2 more when they added extra classes) and The Secret World (3 slots).

Those are all far less than 8 slots out of the box.

That said, I wouldn't complain about a free character slot, but I've still not expanded to 12, like some of my friends did, so I have room to grow.

I'm talking about WoW and SWTOR and one of the games you mentioned added slots when they added a new class which is logical. And im guess gw gives you more if you sub or something havent played it yet but im sure this cant be it.

The other ones u mentioned should have also something like that other than they are already not very popular games im talking about the AAA mmos

I have not played WoW or SWOTR, so I don't know how many slots they give. You could have mentioned that. ;-)

As I said, I would not complain about a free character slot, but ZOS probably has data showing that only 10% of players have all 8 slots filled, let alone 12.

Dark_Lord_Kuro

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

So ... You want free stuff because you're an altoholic?

Just trying to understand your side of things.

Its not free stuff, its a logical thing to do since a lot of the older players probably filled all their character slots and most importantly it doesn't cost them a thing and at the same time their starting 8 character slots is the lowest I saw in any MMO.

If that doesn't make sense to you then thats your problem

Actually it's your problem, purely because you're the one with filled character slots. I have 4 character slots free and can happily make a Warden with no problems whatsoever.

Look at any other MMO and see how many slots they offer and then come again and tell me its my problem. ESO has ridiculously low character slots and the least they can do is add one free with the expansion

Dcuo base game offer 2 slot for 6 power that can be hero or villain

Uriel_Nocturne

Siekobilly_ESO wrote: »

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Siekobilly_ESO wrote: »

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

I had heard 2 slots come with the expansion,

Is that not correct?

2 extra slots you can pay for

I still don't see the problem. You can buy extra slots now, in the crown store.

Why should ZOS "gift" you with slots?

Why would you defend an arguably anti-consumer practice. I'm not being an ass, I'm genuinely curious as to why you are defending this. I'd agree if the new class was free, but being paid for content makes it a bad move on ZOS's part. I'd also challenge you to find an MMO that introduced a class with a paid for expansion that did not provide an extra character slot with said purchase. I researched it, and couldn't find one. It's just something nice that companies do when you spend your hard earned money on their product.

I... don't actually have any onus to defend my position on anything.

But, Socratic method: Why should ZOS take the time and effort to create something as deep and involved as an entirely new Character Class, work it into their story for Morrowind, retroactively update the code so that it works with the base game, but yet give it to you "for free"?

As I've said before; it's up to you on how you manage your individual stables' of characters. Delete one or two, buy one or two new character slots... whatever. ZOS gives you complete control over that, and the ability to have more space than the base game allows. But that's YOUR personal decision.

Why should ZOS spend the effort and man hours to create a new class, just to "give it away"?

But we're not asking for the class for free. It's just a character slot, not the class itself. The class being behind a pay wall isn't the issue, at least not for me. It's all about the slot being behind a pay wall that I take issue with. I'd even be alright with the GW2 model with Heart of Thorns; pre-order came with a character slot if your account was old enough (veteran perk), or you could get the Deluxe, or the higher version to get a character slot. For non-veteran accounts that only got the basic version of HoT they didn't get a slot.

Fair enough, I'll alter my point.

ZOS has access to mountains of metrics that you nor I could see. It's highly likely that those internal metrics show that a strikingly small amount of accounts actually have all eight character slots full. I'd imagine that the vast majority of players have well over three (3) character slots open and unused.

Just going by that assumption (because that's all we really have without access to those metrics, assumption); it would seem to ZOS that they don't need to add any additional character slots, beyond the ability to purchase additional ones in the Crown Store, and the vast majority of players will still get along just fine without being "awarded" additional slots.

ZOS is already being put through the ringer for "catering" to the (largely) niche PvP crowd on many of their game update decisions (I know this particular point seems out of the blue and out of place, but bear with me). If ZOS were to cave in to an even smaller niche crowd of Alt-aholics (whom could alleviate this very issue by simply buying more character slots or deleting a character or two that go largely unused), how much worse would it look for them?

That said: The metrics could just as easily swing the other way, and there could be quite a large majority of players whom already have all eight (8) character slots full.

However; seeing the decision that they have made to date by not adding in two "free" character slots, I feel safe in the assumption that the metric swing much closer to "most players do not have anywhere near all character slots full".

Would it be such an issue for ZOS to simply add in two more open slots per player who buys Morrowind? Another metric we cannot know. Who knows what kind of additional storage load that would place on their servers? But given the ever-present lag in the game currently, it seems like their servers are under plenty-enough load already.

In summation: There's quite a bit that we do not know about their decision to not include any additional character slots with our purchases of Morrowind. But this is the route that they've chosen.

For those Alt-aholics whom are thinking about NOT purchasing Morrowind out of some sense of entitlement or anti-consumer ire (regardless of how well unfounded that may be), go ahead. Skip it. No one is forcing you to buy it.

Much in the same manner that it was your choice to completely load-out your available eight character slots, it is also your choice to delete characters, buy additional slots, or even skip the Expansion entirely. It is well known that the best and fastest way to get your message to a corporation is to use your wallet.

But keep this in mind: Morrowind and it's pre-orders are currently ranking #1 on PC and Xbox LIVE for sales, and #3 on PSN. While you are free to do as you wish with your money, ZOS is currently rolling around naked in pre-order cash.

And I'm sure that this is also another metric and risk that they've taken into account before making this decision to not include any additional character slots.

Bigevilpeter

Dark_Lord_Kuro wrote: »

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

So ... You want free stuff because you're an altoholic?

Just trying to understand your side of things.

Its not free stuff, its a logical thing to do since a lot of the older players probably filled all their character slots and most importantly it doesn't cost them a thing and at the same time their starting 8 character slots is the lowest I saw in any MMO.

If that doesn't make sense to you then thats your problem

Actually it's your problem, purely because you're the one with filled character slots. I have 4 character slots free and can happily make a Warden with no problems whatsoever.

Look at any other MMO and see how many slots they offer and then come again and tell me its my problem. ESO has ridiculously low character slots and the least they can do is add one free with the expansion

Dcuo base game offer 2 slot for 6 power that can be hero or villain

Isnt that F2P game where you don't pay for the actual game? They have to do that in order to make money.

ESO makes money from way too much sources, subscription, crown crates, cosmetics, dlc and many others, they didnt have to be so cheap about this

Ourorboros

Browiseth wrote: »

you could delete a character

Which one of my nine max level characters do you suggest I delete? All but two have done all mount training. All but three have at least all 8 traits researched. I can't believe the arrogance and lack of sympathy shown to fellow gamers who enjoy this game enough to explore it with a full variety of characters. None of us suspected we needed to hold slots in reserve.

zos has already figured out how to get more money from us with 'chapters'. It wouldn't have hurt them to include one slot with the upgrade game purchase. And it doesn't hurt any of you trolling here thinking this is unreasonable.

Siekobilly_ESO

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Siekobilly_ESO wrote: »

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Siekobilly_ESO wrote: »

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

I had heard 2 slots come with the expansion,

Is that not correct?

2 extra slots you can pay for

I still don't see the problem. You can buy extra slots now, in the crown store.

Why should ZOS "gift" you with slots?

Why would you defend an arguably anti-consumer practice. I'm not being an ass, I'm genuinely curious as to why you are defending this. I'd agree if the new class was free, but being paid for content makes it a bad move on ZOS's part. I'd also challenge you to find an MMO that introduced a class with a paid for expansion that did not provide an extra character slot with said purchase. I researched it, and couldn't find one. It's just something nice that companies do when you spend your hard earned money on their product.

I... don't actually have any onus to defend my position on anything.

But, Socratic method: Why should ZOS take the time and effort to create something as deep and involved as an entirely new Character Class, work it into their story for Morrowind, retroactively update the code so that it works with the base game, but yet give it to you "for free"?

As I've said before; it's up to you on how you manage your individual stables' of characters. Delete one or two, buy one or two new character slots... whatever. ZOS gives you complete control over that, and the ability to have more space than the base game allows. But that's YOUR personal decision.

Why should ZOS spend the effort and man hours to create a new class, just to "give it away"?

But we're not asking for the class for free. It's just a character slot, not the class itself. The class being behind a pay wall isn't the issue, at least not for me. It's all about the slot being behind a pay wall that I take issue with. I'd even be alright with the GW2 model with Heart of Thorns; pre-order came with a character slot if your account was old enough (veteran perk), or you could get the Deluxe, or the higher version to get a character slot. For non-veteran accounts that only got the basic version of HoT they didn't get a slot.

Fair enough, I'll alter my point.

ZOS has access to mountains of metrics that you nor I could see. It's highly likely that those internal metrics show that a strikingly small amount of accounts actually have all eight character slots full. I'd imagine that the vast majority of players have well over three (3) character slots open and unused.

Just going by that assumption (because that's all we really have without access to those metrics, assumption); it would seem to ZOS that they don't need to add any additional character slots, beyond the ability to purchase additional ones in the Crown Store, and the vast majority of players will still get along just fine without being "awarded" additional slots.

ZOS is already being put through the ringer for "catering" to the (largely) niche PvP crowd on many of their game update decisions (I know this particular point seems out of the blue and out of place, but bear with me). If ZOS were to cave in to an even smaller niche crowd of Alt-aholics (whom could alleviate this very issue by simply buying more character slots or deleting a character or two that go largely unused), how much worse would it look for them?

That said: The metrics could just as easily swing the other way, and there could be quite a large majority of players whom already have all eight (8) character slots full.

However; seeing the decision that they have made to date by not adding in two "free" character slots, I feel safe in the assumption that the metric swing much closer to "most players do not have anywhere near all character slots full".

Would it be such an issue for ZOS to simply add in two more open slots per player who buys Morrowind? Another metric we cannot know. Who knows what kind of additional storage load that would place on their servers? But given the ever-present lag in the game currently, it seems like their servers are under plenty-enough load already.

In summation: There's quite a bit that we do not know about their decision to not include any additional character slots with our purchases of Morrowind. But this is the route that they've chosen.

For those Alt-aholics whom are thinking about NOT purchasing Morrowind out of some sense of entitlement or anti-consumer ire (regardless of how well unfounded that may be), go ahead. Skip it. No one is forcing you to buy it.

Much in the same manner that it was your choice to completely load-out your available eight character slots, it is also your choice to delete characters, buy additional slots, or even skip the Expansion entirely. It is well known that the best and fastest way to get your message to a corporation is to use your wallet.

But keep this in mind: Morrowind and it's pre-orders are currently ranking #1 on PC and Xbox LIVE for sales, and #3 on PSN. While you are free to do as you wish with your money, ZOS is currently rolling around naked in pre-order cash.

And I'm sure that this is also another metric and risk that they've taken into account before making this decision to not include any additional character slots.

Those are certainly valid points, and we are operating under a large amount of assumptions since they actually haven't given any kind of reason that I'm aware of. It just seems, to me, like a bad choice to go the nickel-and-dime route.

As for the metrics; does it really matter if only 30% of the playerbase has all slots full? I certainly hadn't used all of my slots in D3 when the Crusader released, and I still don't have all of my slots full. Did they have to add those extra slots? No. Did they, and were they lauded for it? Yes. And this is a game that doesn't have a subscription model. It's a B2P model, and the only compensation they received for said slot was tied into the price of the expansion.

I also want to point out that I only have 3 slots filled, so this doesn't actually impact me. Just like when RoS came out I hadn't filled up all of my slots in D3. It's a "good faith" maneuver that the company used to show their care for the community. Whether it was just a PR move, or they actually cared is mostly irrelevant. The feeling the consumer had was one of "hey, these guys care", and that's a net positive.

I've pre-ordered Morrowind because I think it looks amazing. I'm just a bit disappointed about a few of the choices that they are making that feel anti-consumer.

Sigtric

5 classes and 8 "free" slots with the ability to get more if you want

I don't see what the issue is.

WaTeR-aBuSeR

I am not at the cap, but I thought it was kind of greedy to now give an extra one with the collector's edition at least.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

If you were really serious, you would have already bought four slots for your 12 toons.

MLGProPlayer

JD2013 wrote: »

So ... You want free stuff because you're an altoholic?

Just trying to understand your side of things.

They want a free character slot because every MMO on the market includes one (or two) when they release an expansion with a new class. ESO is pretty much the first game in the industry to break this trend.

Pandorii

I, for one, am getting really tired of zos' anti-consumer choices. I've said this once, and I'll say it again. I may stick around eso however long I can tolerate, but I have seen enough from zos that has convinced me never to buy a future game from them again.

We start with 8 slots, enough for 2 of each class, the stamina and magicka variant. Regardless of whether someone has them filled or not, we are entitled to 2 slots to enjoy the new class. That's why they added two on sale. I agree that at least one should be free with the game, as a sign of good will. Giving us a ready to go out of the box product instead of tying us to another purchase (example, crown exclusive motif without enough mimic stones to make a full set of armor. Race passive changes without a free race change token).

I'm not surprised by how many people defend zos. After all, many of the people who truly didn't accept the anti-consumer decisions by zos have already quit and left. Those of us still here have some resilience to zos' face slapping and nickle and diming us. I will say one thing though, as rational as the argument that zos needs to make money to provide us better product, that's just delusional. They'll use the minimum profit they need to pay the employees and the rest (surplus) is profit that goes into some suits pocket.

Customer relations and customer satisfaction may not be easily measured in dollars, but trust me when I say it has a long term impact on a company and zos anti-consumerism will soon come back and bite them. Those resilent will pay for it as they continue to try to take that money from those that are left.

cjthibs

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

ESO makes money from way too much sources, subscription, crown crates, cosmetics, dlc and many others, they didnt have to be so cheap about this

Translation: OP is cheap, but wants to project that onto ZoS.

MLGProPlayer

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Siekobilly_ESO wrote: »

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

I had heard 2 slots come with the expansion,

Is that not correct?

2 extra slots you can pay for

I still don't see the problem. You can buy extra slots now, in the crown store.

Why should ZOS "gift" you with slots?

Why would you defend an arguably anti-consumer practice. I'm not being an ass, I'm genuinely curious as to why you are defending this. I'd agree if the new class was free, but being paid for content makes it a bad move on ZOS's part. I'd also challenge you to find an MMO that introduced a class with a paid for expansion that did not provide an extra character slot with said purchase. I researched it, and couldn't find one. It's just something nice that companies do when you spend your hard earned money on their product.

I... don't actually have any onus to defend my position on anything.

But, Socratic method: Why should ZOS take the time and effort to create something as deep and involved as an entirely new Character Class, work it into their story for Morrowind, retroactively update the code so that it works with the base game, but yet give it to you "for free"?

As I've said before; it's up to you on how you manage your individual stables' of characters. Delete one or two, buy one or two new character slots... whatever. ZOS gives you complete control over that, and the ability to have more space than the base game allows. But that's YOUR personal decision.

Why should ZOS spend the effort and man hours to create a new class, just to "give it away"?

It's not being given away. It's being sold for $40.

MLGProPlayer

Sigtric wrote: »

5 classes and 8 "free" slots with the ability to get more if you want

I don't see what the issue is.

The issue is that literally every single MMO on the narket gives free slots with expansions. ESO is the only exception.

STEVIL

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

TotallyNotVos wrote: »

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

So ... You want free stuff because you're an altoholic?

Just trying to understand your side of things.

Its not free stuff, its a logical thing to do since a lot of the older players probably filled all their character slots and most importantly it doesn't cost them a thing and at the same time their starting 8 character slots is the lowest I saw in any MMO.

If that doesn't make sense to you then thats your problem

Simple. You try warden on the pts, and if you like it more than one of your current characters. You delete them and make a warden

And why don't they give at least one free character slot with the expansion and show some appreciation to their customers?

why not give a hundred?

Seriously? What is so magical about one slot when there will almost certainly be a magica and stamina morph or two.?

There are likely three or four good race options with the class too.

Buy the non-upgrade version for a little more.
install/setup as different account.
get 8 free new character slots on your new account plus a new bank.
play away in your new morrowind account.
done and done. room to explore the wealth of options.

Hvzeda

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

So ... You want free stuff because you're an altoholic?

Just trying to understand your side of things.

They want a free character slot because every MMO on the market includes one (or two) when they release an expansion with a new class. ESO is pretty much the first game in the industry to break this trend.

Incorrect. SWG never included a free character slot with any of their expansions.

Ourorboros

cjthibs wrote: »

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

ESO makes money from way too much sources, subscription, crown crates, cosmetics, dlc and many others, they didnt have to be so cheap about this

Translation: OP is cheap, but wants to project that onto ZoS.

Translation: has no horse in this race, just likes to troll.

Siekobilly_ESO

Hvzeda wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

So ... You want free stuff because you're an altoholic?

Just trying to understand your side of things.

They want a free character slot because every MMO on the market includes one (or two) when they release an expansion with a new class. ESO is pretty much the first game in the industry to break this trend.

Incorrect. SWG never included a free character slot with any of their expansions.

That's interesting. I never played SWG, so I have no clue how it was played. Were there classes, and any one character could only be a class? From my quick research it looked more like the job system in FFXIV where you legitimately don't need more than one character because the one character can be everything.

Hvzeda

Siekobilly_ESO wrote: »

Hvzeda wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

So ... You want free stuff because you're an altoholic?

Just trying to understand your side of things.

They want a free character slot because every MMO on the market includes one (or two) when they release an expansion with a new class. ESO is pretty much the first game in the industry to break this trend.

Incorrect. SWG never included a free character slot with any of their expansions.

That's interesting. I never played SWG, so I have no clue how it was played. Were there classes, and any one character could only be a class? From my quick research it looked more like the job system in FFXIV where you legitimately don't need more than one character because the one character can be everything.

You could change your profession if you wanted to but had to grind the profession and you lost the other profession. So if you were a bounty hunter and leveled it out and decided to go combat medic/ranger, you could but had to grind it out. You found out you didn't like it and wanted to go back being a bounty hunter, you had to regrind the bounty hunter profession. Everyone got the same amount of skill points and you spent it once you got enough xp to get the next level skill. Of course, this is pre-NGE SWG.

g00gleyes

you shouldn't expect a company to do as their predecessors have "just because". they are a company providing a product. you are either willing to pay for it or you aren't. their recent awards and general success as I gather makes me think that plenty of people are willing to pay.

that being said it is a courtesy to provide a free character slot with a paid expansion. will sales drop because they arent being courteous? maybe. will people get over it? probably.

Sigtric

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Sigtric wrote: »

5 classes and 8 "free" slots with the ability to get more if you want

I don't see what the issue is.

The issue is that literally every single MMO on the narket gives free slots with expansions. ESO is the only exception.

Okay? Go play the other ones if that's what you want

MEBengalsFan2001

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Personally I haven't bought any extra character slots so far, I have 8 slots one magika and one stamina of each class almost all full leveled horse trained etc.

With the release of Morrowind I will have to upgrade the game for 40$ then add another 30$ for 2 extra warden slots??

Really ZOS?? you will add a new class and punish those who actually play the game a lot and have a lot of characters by not giving something as simple as a free 2 extra character slots which won't cost you a thing? 8 was already very low for any MMO I have ever played.

The greed is getting worse over time and I'm starting to reach my limit. I paid a lot in this game and really enjoy it but things like that just feels cheap and really puts me off from this game.

I think if you own the game now and pre- purchase the game you should get 2 character slots. I believe that is an item they could add to the pre-order bundles. Would that make you happy?

As for the expansion costing money, players need to get over it. Other MMO games do the same thing.

heaven13

I do think it would foster some good will in the community to have one slot included with purchase, with 2 additional ones for sale in the Crown Store. I'm fine with them adding the option to purchase more, but one slot would be nice of them to include since the class is indeed locked behind a paywall.

Same as it would be nice of them to offer a one time, one way class change (with class skills resetting to zero) for any existing characters when Morrowind released.

Unfortunately, I don't think either of those things is going to happen, but I would greatly appreciate it if they did.