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  • SnubbS
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    Objectively speaking, $40 isn't worth it -- but I'm going to buy it anyway.
    Xbox NA: SnubbS
    GoW eSports player & part time ESO Pug Ball Zerger.
    GB
  • Soafee
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    I pay a sub because I enjoy the game and I enjoy helping a company that entertains me for hours on end. Doesn't matter what you do. =)
    Today is a blessing. Yesterday is in the past and tomorrow is a mystery.
  • SunfireKnight86
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    SnubbS wrote: »
    Objectively speaking, $40 isn't worth it -- but I'm going to buy it anyway.

    I don't think you know what "objectively" means. I literally spent forty dollars on drinks and humus earlier, I guess I "objectively" didn't enjoy that, since it only lasted about an hour.
  • Stovahkiin
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    *sigh* like I've had to say in other threads, boo hoo. Don't at least some people just cry into their pillows at night when they have to face small disappointments instead of coming and flooding the forum with stupidity?
    Beware the battle cattle, but don't *fear* the battle cattle!
  • SunfireKnight86
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    1) This gives them the chance to re-brand, something they really, really need. This game hasn't really received new reviews since launch. My releasing a full xpac, they get the free marketing and updated image that comes with it. From that point of view, it's very smart.

    Third time is the charm and all that?

    The game is solid as all get out, especially when compared to three years ago. It needs new reviews. I wouldn't be surprised if this ends up pulling in a lot of new players.

    That said, it's releasing right around FFXIV's new xpac, which will hurt some, I imagine.
  • SnubbS
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    SnubbS wrote: »
    Objectively speaking, $40 isn't worth it -- but I'm going to buy it anyway.

    I don't think you know what "objectively" means. I literally spent forty dollars on drinks and humus earlier, I guess I "objectively" didn't enjoy that, since it only lasted about an hour.

    Okay, let's test that first assertion by using the magic of google & gyazo.

    https://gyazo.com/b42f0584cb1de341f8558ec7d8f60b21

    Looks like I used it correctly, and furthermore, it looks like you were the one who didn't understand the meaning of the word. Since you experienced the drinks & humus, you cannot be objective on their value.

    Edited by SnubbS on February 1, 2017 5:57AM
    Xbox NA: SnubbS
    GoW eSports player & part time ESO Pug Ball Zerger.
    GB
  • DaveMoeDee
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    SnubbS wrote: »
    Objectively speaking, $40 isn't worth it -- but I'm going to buy it anyway.

    Worth is, by definition, subjective. Worth is what people are willing to pay.
  • Stovahkiin
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    SnubbS wrote: »
    SnubbS wrote: »
    Objectively speaking, $40 isn't worth it -- but I'm going to buy it anyway.

    I don't think you know what "objectively" means. I literally spent forty dollars on drinks and humus earlier, I guess I "objectively" didn't enjoy that, since it only lasted about an hour.

    Okay, let's test that first assertion by using the magic of google & gyazo.

    https://gyazo.com/b42f0584cb1de341f8558ec7d8f60b21

    Looks like I used it correctly, and furthermore, it looks like you were the one who didn't understand the meaning of the word. Since you experienced the drinks & humus, you cannot be objective on their value.

    Aww, big boy learned how to use google!
    *claps hands wildly*
    Beware the battle cattle, but don't *fear* the battle cattle!
  • SunfireKnight86
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    SnubbS wrote: »
    SnubbS wrote: »
    Objectively speaking, $40 isn't worth it -- but I'm going to buy it anyway.

    I don't think you know what "objectively" means. I literally spent forty dollars on drinks and humus earlier, I guess I "objectively" didn't enjoy that, since it only lasted about an hour.

    Okay, let's test that first assertion by using the magic of google & gyazo.

    https://gyazo.com/b42f0584cb1de341f8558ec7d8f60b21

    Looks like I used it correctly, and furthermore, it looks like you were the one who didn't understand the meaning of the word. Since you experienced the drinks & humus, you cannot be objective on their value.

    This is going to hurt a lot, since you clearly don't use your brain very often, but let's look at another word real quick.

    sub·jec·tive
    səbˈjektiv/
    adjective
    adjective: subjective

    1.
    based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions.


    Now, if I say, "Man, I really enjoyed [THING]."

    And you say, "Man, I hated [THING]."

    Those are called opinions. O-PIN-YUNS. They are subjective. SUB-JECT-IVE.
  • DaveMoeDee
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    Soafee wrote: »
    I pay a sub because I enjoy the game and I enjoy helping a company that entertains me for hours on end. Doesn't matter what you do. =)

    If you really cared about the game, you would buy every item in the crown store and have at least 4 copies of the game, all subbed.

    Otherwise, something something entitled something snowflake!
  • Stovahkiin
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    DaveMoeDee wrote: »
    Soafee wrote: »
    I pay a sub because I enjoy the game and I enjoy helping a company that entertains me for hours on end. Doesn't matter what you do. =)

    If you really cared about the game, you would buy every item in the crown store and have at least 4 copies of the game, all subbed.

    Otherwise, something something entitled something snowflake!

    You forgot to fit the phrase "elitist" in there somehow ;)
    Beware the battle cattle, but don't *fear* the battle cattle!
  • SunfireKnight86
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    "Subjectively, my opinion is this thing I haven't bought for entertainment isn't worth the cost I haven't paid because it doesn't live up to my standards of enjoyment and cost that are unique to me! As far as I know based only on assumption, anyway."

    FTFY
  • DaveMoeDee
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    You must not have a job lol... or a very good one. 15 bucks a month.. I wipe my ass with.. littereally I probably spend 15 a month on tp

    No chafing from all of that?
  • darthsithis
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    I can man up and say when I did something dumb, so here-

    I've spent more on eso plus for the dlc then I would have just...by paying for the dlc.

    And I did this before he craft bag, so I don't even have that excuse.
    Message me if you want to do trials/dungeons, or need a trading guild! Flawless conqueror magsorc with a bad sense of armor fashion.
  • darthsithis
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    But man my craft sack is so big
    Message me if you want to do trials/dungeons, or need a trading guild! Flawless conqueror magsorc with a bad sense of armor fashion.
  • vyndral13preub18_ESO
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    1) This gives them the chance to re-brand, something they really, really need. This game hasn't really received new reviews since launch. My releasing a full xpac, they get the free marketing and updated image that comes with it. From that point of view, it's very smart.

    Third time is the charm and all that?

    The game is solid as all get out, especially when compared to three years ago. It needs new reviews. I wouldn't be surprised if this ends up pulling in a lot of new players.

    That said, it's releasing right around FFXIV's new xpac, which will hurt some, I imagine.

    I was just pointing out that this will make the third time the game has rebranded itself. I'm sure new reviews would be swell. Just the way you said it gave me the impression that you felt this was something they had not tried before.
  • SnubbS
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    DaveMoeDee wrote: »
    SnubbS wrote: »
    Objectively speaking, $40 isn't worth it -- but I'm going to buy it anyway.

    Worth is, by definition, subjective. Worth is what people are willing to pay.

    I understand what you're saying -- but that's not the only definition of 'Worth'. So you're incorrect.

    Let's imagine that you were correct. Are you particularly averse to price/worth comparisons in your day-to-day life? Or is it just something you have a disdain for when someone else has an idea of 'Worth' (pertaining to something you're interested in) that differs from your own.

    Stovahkiin wrote: »
    SnubbS wrote: »
    SnubbS wrote: »
    Objectively speaking, $40 isn't worth it -- but I'm going to buy it anyway.

    I don't think you know what "objectively" means. I literally spent forty dollars on drinks and humus earlier, I guess I "objectively" didn't enjoy that, since it only lasted about an hour.

    Okay, let's test that first assertion by using the magic of google & gyazo.

    https://gyazo.com/b42f0584cb1de341f8558ec7d8f60b21

    Looks like I used it correctly, and furthermore, it looks like you were the one who didn't understand the meaning of the word. Since you experienced the drinks & humus, you cannot be objective on their value.

    Aww, big boy learned how to use google!
    *claps hands wildly*

    ?
    Xbox NA: SnubbS
    GoW eSports player & part time ESO Pug Ball Zerger.
    GB
  • Cadbury
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    1) This gives them the chance to re-brand, something they really, really need. This game hasn't really received new reviews since launch. My releasing a full xpac, they get the free marketing and updated image that comes with it. From that point of view, it's very smart.

    Third time is the charm and all that?

    The game is solid as all get out, especially when compared to three years ago. It needs new reviews. I wouldn't be surprised if this ends up pulling in a lot of new players.

    That said, it's releasing right around FFXIV's new xpac, which will hurt some, I imagine.

    I was just pointing out that this will make the third time the game has rebranded itself.

    Eh, it worked for Lady Gaga
    "If a person is truly desirous of something, perhaps being set on fire does not seem so bad."
  • Khairiah
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    Betheny wrote: »
    I has a crafting bag. Suck it.

    This.. ^

    Edit: I forgot.. I also get crowns, more gold, xp etc.. + I support a game I really like..
    Edited by Khairiah on February 1, 2017 6:26AM
  • Stovahkiin
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    SnubbS wrote: »
    DaveMoeDee wrote: »
    SnubbS wrote: »
    Objectively speaking, $40 isn't worth it -- but I'm going to buy it anyway.

    Worth is, by definition, subjective. Worth is what people are willing to pay.

    I understand what you're saying -- but that's not the only definition of 'Worth'. So you're incorrect.

    Let's imagine that you were correct. Are you particularly averse to price/worth comparisons in your day-to-day life? Or is it just something you have a disdain for when someone else has an idea of 'Worth' (pertaining to something you're interested in) that differs from your own.

    Stovahkiin wrote: »
    SnubbS wrote: »
    SnubbS wrote: »
    Objectively speaking, $40 isn't worth it -- but I'm going to buy it anyway.

    I don't think you know what "objectively" means. I literally spent forty dollars on drinks and humus earlier, I guess I "objectively" didn't enjoy that, since it only lasted about an hour.

    Okay, let's test that first assertion by using the magic of google & gyazo.

    https://gyazo.com/b42f0584cb1de341f8558ec7d8f60b21

    Looks like I used it correctly, and furthermore, it looks like you were the one who didn't understand the meaning of the word. Since you experienced the drinks & humus, you cannot be objective on their value.

    Aww, big boy learned how to use google!
    *claps hands wildly*

    ?

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    Beware the battle cattle, but don't *fear* the battle cattle!
  • FriedEggSandwich
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    Don't you lol @me. I have a senche tiger mount and can collect all the jazbay grapes I so please :p
    PC | EU
  • SienneYviete
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    Man this games community has become so toxic as of late, this whole not a dlc it's an expansion and you will have to pay rubbish was predicted hence I unsubbed as there is zero point anymore, I survive without a crafting bag. Am I a little salty because of the amount of money I have thrown at this game since release for them to pull this, yeah but this is what these companies do, their priority is selling boxes. It was a no brainer this was going to happen at some point and of course people are a bit peeved and in a lot of cases rightly so. The smart ones used their crowns wisely and purchased the "dlc" they cared about because they could see this coming with crown crates and rising mount/vanity item costs.

    TBH all I can hope for now is that this company does not butcher the nostalgia of Morrowind with a sub par unfinished dlc/expansion whatever the hell you wish to call it because the fallout from that would just be epic.
    Delta
    Valheru's
  • SnubbS
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    SnubbS wrote: »
    SnubbS wrote: »
    Objectively speaking, $40 isn't worth it -- but I'm going to buy it anyway.

    I don't think you know what "objectively" means. I literally spent forty dollars on drinks and humus earlier, I guess I "objectively" didn't enjoy that, since it only lasted about an hour.

    Okay, let's test that first assertion by using the magic of google & gyazo.

    https://gyazo.com/b42f0584cb1de341f8558ec7d8f60b21

    Looks like I used it correctly, and furthermore, it looks like you were the one who didn't understand the meaning of the word. Since you experienced the drinks & humus, you cannot be objective on their value.

    This is going to hurt a lot, since you clearly don't use your brain very often, but let's look at another word real quick.

    sub·jec·tive
    səbˈjektiv/
    adjective
    adjective: subjective

    1.
    based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions.


    Now, if I say, "Man, I really enjoyed [THING]."

    And you say, "Man, I hated [THING]."

    Those are called opinions. O-PIN-YUNS. They are subjective. SUB-JECT-IVE.

    Every time someone replies to a post of mine with anything along the lines of "This is going to hurt a lot, since you clearly don't use your brain very often, but let's look at another word real quick." I genuinely hope that I'm either about to learn something abstract that can be used later on in life or at least be educated on the topic at hand. *Hold, let me Google 'Abstract' so I know I used it correctly.* Yep. Moving on.

    You've googled the word 'Subjective' and copypasted the result, this isn't even worth my time.

    I can just do the same thing with my earlier post. "Since you experienced the drinks & humus, you cannot be objective on their value." You could use that as a way of describing subjectivity, in fact, I already did that. My original post was stating that it's not objectively worth $40 dollars and that I plan to purchase it anyway. This is me not only expressing my own subjectivity but writing it down for you as well. When you remove your subjectivity, it's hard to justify the price.

    I'll break this down into plain English for you.

    In the current market, if we compare the amount of content in morro...

    No, let me dumb it down even further.

    U get 30 hrs 0f conteNt 4 40$ wen duh avg price of game is 60$ . so objekivitittitlvily , it dont not compare favoralabitlity wit duh price of a game or cuz dis were u start cumpairing apples n orangutans, duh price of and WooW expanzhun. u hav to cumpair duh price wit da amunt of cuntent u get. i hope dis help u understood better.
    Xbox NA: SnubbS
    GoW eSports player & part time ESO Pug Ball Zerger.
    GB
  • Stovahkiin
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    SnubbS wrote: »
    SnubbS wrote: »
    SnubbS wrote: »
    Objectively speaking, $40 isn't worth it -- but I'm going to buy it anyway.

    I don't think you know what "objectively" means. I literally spent forty dollars on drinks and humus earlier, I guess I "objectively" didn't enjoy that, since it only lasted about an hour.

    Okay, let's test that first assertion by using the magic of google & gyazo.

    https://gyazo.com/b42f0584cb1de341f8558ec7d8f60b21

    Looks like I used it correctly, and furthermore, it looks like you were the one who didn't understand the meaning of the word. Since you experienced the drinks & humus, you cannot be objective on their value.

    This is going to hurt a lot, since you clearly don't use your brain very often, but let's look at another word real quick.

    sub·jec·tive
    səbˈjektiv/
    adjective
    adjective: subjective

    1.
    based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions.


    Now, if I say, "Man, I really enjoyed [THING]."

    And you say, "Man, I hated [THING]."

    Those are called opinions. O-PIN-YUNS. They are subjective. SUB-JECT-IVE.

    Every time someone replies to a post of mine with anything along the lines of "This is going to hurt a lot, since you clearly don't use your brain very often, but let's look at another word real quick." I genuinely hope that I'm either about to learn something abstract that can be used later on in life or at least be educated on the topic at hand. *Hold, let me Google 'Abstract' so I know I used it correctly.* Yep. Moving on.

    You've googled the word 'Subjective' and copypasted the result, this isn't even worth my time.

    I can just do the same thing with my earlier post. "Since you experienced the drinks & humus, you cannot be objective on their value." You could use that as a way of describing subjectivity, in fact, I already did that. My original post was stating that it's not objectively worth $40 dollars and that I plan to purchase it anyway. This is me not only expressing my own subjectivity but writing it down for you as well. When you remove your subjectivity, it's hard to justify the price.

    I'll break this down into plain English for you.

    In the current market, if we compare the amount of content in morro...

    No, let me dumb it down even further.

    U get 30 hrs 0f conteNt 4 40$ wen duh avg price of game is 60$ . so objekivitittitlvily , it dont not compare favoralabitlity wit duh price of a game or cuz dis were u start cumpairing apples n orangutans, duh price of and WooW expanzhun. u hav to cumpair duh price wit da amunt of cuntent u get. i hope dis help u understood better.

    I'm sorry, can you repeat that last bit?
    Beware the battle cattle, but don't *fear* the battle cattle!
  • SnubbS
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    Stovahkiin wrote: »
    SnubbS wrote: »
    SnubbS wrote: »
    SnubbS wrote: »
    Objectively speaking, $40 isn't worth it -- but I'm going to buy it anyway.

    I don't think you know what "objectively" means. I literally spent forty dollars on drinks and humus earlier, I guess I "objectively" didn't enjoy that, since it only lasted about an hour.

    Okay, let's test that first assertion by using the magic of google & gyazo.

    https://gyazo.com/b42f0584cb1de341f8558ec7d8f60b21

    Looks like I used it correctly, and furthermore, it looks like you were the one who didn't understand the meaning of the word. Since you experienced the drinks & humus, you cannot be objective on their value.

    This is going to hurt a lot, since you clearly don't use your brain very often, but let's look at another word real quick.

    sub·jec·tive
    səbˈjektiv/
    adjective
    adjective: subjective

    1.
    based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions.


    Now, if I say, "Man, I really enjoyed [THING]."

    And you say, "Man, I hated [THING]."

    Those are called opinions. O-PIN-YUNS. They are subjective. SUB-JECT-IVE.

    Every time someone replies to a post of mine with anything along the lines of "This is going to hurt a lot, since you clearly don't use your brain very often, but let's look at another word real quick." I genuinely hope that I'm either about to learn something abstract that can be used later on in life or at least be educated on the topic at hand. *Hold, let me Google 'Abstract' so I know I used it correctly.* Yep. Moving on.

    You've googled the word 'Subjective' and copypasted the result, this isn't even worth my time.

    I can just do the same thing with my earlier post. "Since you experienced the drinks & humus, you cannot be objective on their value." You could use that as a way of describing subjectivity, in fact, I already did that. My original post was stating that it's not objectively worth $40 dollars and that I plan to purchase it anyway. This is me not only expressing my own subjectivity but writing it down for you as well. When you remove your subjectivity, it's hard to justify the price.

    I'll break this down into plain English for you.

    In the current market, if we compare the amount of content in morro...

    No, let me dumb it down even further.

    U get 30 hrs 0f conteNt 4 40$ wen duh avg price of game is 60$ . so objekivitittitlvily , it dont not compare favoralabitlity wit duh price of a game or cuz dis were u start cumpairing apples n orangutans, duh price of and WooW expanzhun. u hav to cumpair duh price wit da amunt of cuntent u get. i hope dis help u understood better.

    I'm sorry, can you repeat that last bit?

    I feel like VampiresBaneKnight420247 will understand it.
    Xbox NA: SnubbS
    GoW eSports player & part time ESO Pug Ball Zerger.
    GB
  • FearlessOne_2014
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    Betheny wrote: »
    I has a crafting bag. Suck it.

    Craft bags OP AF. I'm still happy with my sub. Plus free camel strom mount and abunch of other mounts and costumes, I got with the 9000 crowns that came with my 6 month Sub.

    10/10 Will resub for 6 more months when this sub is finished. :smiley:

    RELEASE THE EXPANSION!
  • Pixel_Zealot
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    As a sub, I'm kinda pissed off. Not cancel subscription pissed-off.

    Uninstall kinda pissed-off. I'm tired of these cash-grabs and everyone defending it.
    Dragonborn, huh? Was it your ma or your pa that was the dragon?
  • Stovahkiin
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    As a sub, I'm kinda pissed off. Not cancel subscription pissed-off.

    Uninstall kinda pissed-off. I'm tired of these cash-grabs and everyone defending it.

    Free stuff plox
    Beware the battle cattle, but don't *fear* the battle cattle!
  • VoRaVeLi
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    Man this games community has become so toxic as of late, this whole not a dlc it's an expansion and you will have to pay rubbish was predicted hence I unsubbed as there is zero point anymore, I survive without a crafting bag. Am I a little salty because of the amount of money I have thrown at this game since release for them to pull this, yeah but this is what these companies do, their priority is selling boxes. It was a no brainer this was going to happen at some point and of course people are a bit peeved and in a lot of cases rightly so. The smart ones used their crowns wisely and purchased the "dlc" they cared about because they could see this coming with crown crates and rising mount/vanity item costs.

    TBH all I can hope for now is that this company does not butcher the nostalgia of Morrowind with a sub par unfinished dlc/expansion whatever the hell you wish to call it because the fallout from that would just be epic.

    If they screw up Morrowind people will still buy it / play it.

    If they don't screw it up people will still complain.

    This forum is just meant for complaining I've noticed lol.

    Bad changes happen regularly from it. I just hope the content that gets released is actually difficult.

    Everyone on here complains yet they never leave the game.

    I'm guessing they will release additional "DLC" that's for the area in Morrowind afterwards. It makes sense from a game play / business perspective. If you wanna continue to play new content you would have to buy Morrowind.

    Edit: Still a little surprised they would compromise the trust of all their subscribers by doing this though.
    Edited by VoRaVeLi on February 1, 2017 7:07AM
  • Pixel_Zealot
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    Stovahkiin wrote: »
    As a sub, I'm kinda pissed off. Not cancel subscription pissed-off.

    Uninstall kinda pissed-off. I'm tired of these cash-grabs and everyone defending it.

    Free stuff plox

    @Stovahkiin I just made a thread asking ZOS to comment. If they can't give me a valid reason, PM me your details and you get it.
    Dragonborn, huh? Was it your ma or your pa that was the dragon?
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