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Stovahkiin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I am in what is undoubtedly the #1 pvp guild on NA ps4 with likely the best crown in the game. I can assure you we don't get "baited" we do the "baiting". But when you are fighting a 20 man group and they drop 8 destro ults and 5 healing ults you can't do ANYTHING. Sure it will still happen in smaller scale, but I know for a fact that 4v4 5v5 nobody could take us. Our guild has 30 members all the top pvpers and is definately known as one of if not the best pvp guild on the server.
Let me ask you one question. If you were able to wipe those 20-man groups, what would your reaction be? Would you "high five" your teammates and call the 20 players you just wiped "scrubs"? And if your guild is as good as you say, don't you think that those 20 players know this? And know that the only way to beat you is doing what they are doing?
This situation is the same that all the "best" pvp'rs face. They want to 1vX and succeed. But sometimes they lose to X. Many of them just brush it off. But yes, a few of them complain about losing to X.
The adjustment of aoe caps should help make it easier for smaller groups to kill larger ones. But honestly speaking, I don't blame "pugs" or "20-man groups" for using everything they have to wipe you or your group. Of course, I get irritated sometimes, too. But if I'm really honest with myself, I would much rather them to keep coming with everything they have, rather than just give up and avoid the fight.
Please before posing ignorant questions like that take the time to read my original post. I literally say this exact statement in it.
You are unlikeable. Very.
I see this thread has now simply turned into an "I don't like you because you're a meanie" thread.
Alrighty thenBeware the battle cattle, but don't *fear* the battle cattle!0 -
templesus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I am in what is undoubtedly the #1 pvp guild on NA ps4 with likely the best crown in the game. I can assure you we don't get "baited" we do the "baiting". But when you are fighting a 20 man group and they drop 8 destro ults and 5 healing ults you can't do ANYTHING. Sure it will still happen in smaller scale, but I know for a fact that 4v4 5v5 nobody could take us. Our guild has 30 members all the top pvpers and is definately known as one of if not the best pvp guild on the server.
Let me ask you one question. If you were able to wipe those 20-man groups, what would your reaction be? Would you "high five" your teammates and call the 20 players you just wiped "scrubs"? And if your guild is as good as you say, don't you think that those 20 players know this? And know that the only way to beat you is doing what they are doing?
This situation is the same that all the "best" pvp'rs face. They want to 1vX and succeed. But sometimes they lose to X. Many of them just brush it off. But yes, a few of them complain about losing to X.
The adjustment of aoe caps should help make it easier for smaller groups to kill larger ones. But honestly speaking, I don't blame "pugs" or "20-man groups" for using everything they have to wipe you or your group. Of course, I get irritated sometimes, too. But if I'm really honest with myself, I would much rather them to keep coming with everything they have, rather than just give up and avoid the fight.
Please before posing ignorant questions like that take the time to read my original post. I literally say this exact statement in it.
You are unlikeable. Very.
No need for negativity in this post. Please exit via the power button on whatever device you happen to be accessing on.4 -
maxjapank✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I am in what is undoubtedly the #1 pvp guild on NA ps4 with likely the best crown in the game. I can assure you we don't get "baited" we do the "baiting". But when you are fighting a 20 man group and they drop 8 destro ults and 5 healing ults you can't do ANYTHING. Sure it will still happen in smaller scale, but I know for a fact that 4v4 5v5 nobody could take us. Our guild has 30 members all the top pvpers and is definately known as one of if not the best pvp guild on the server.
Let me ask you one question. If you were able to wipe those 20-man groups, what would your reaction be? Would you "high five" your teammates and call the 20 players you just wiped "scrubs"? And if your guild is as good as you say, don't you think that those 20 players know this? And know that the only way to beat you is doing what they are doing?
This situation is the same that all the "best" pvp'rs face. They want to 1vX and succeed. But sometimes they lose to X. Many of them just brush it off. But yes, a few of them complain about losing to X.
The adjustment of aoe caps should help make it easier for smaller groups to kill larger ones. But honestly speaking, I don't blame "pugs" or "20-man groups" for using everything they have to wipe you or your group. Of course, I get irritated sometimes, too. But if I'm really honest with myself, I would much rather them to keep coming with everything they have, rather than just give up and avoid the fight.
Please before posing ignorant questions like that take the time to read my original post. I literally say this exact statement in it.
You are unlikeable. Very.
No need for negativity in this post. Please exit via the power button on whatever device you happen to be accessing on.
You started with the negativity. And continue with it. I just gave you back what you initiated.0 -
FloppyTouch✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I am in what is undoubtedly the #1 pvp guild on NA ps4 with likely the best crown in the game. I can assure you we don't get "baited" we do the "baiting". But when you are fighting a 20 man group and they drop 8 destro ults and 5 healing ults you can't do ANYTHING. Sure it will still happen in smaller scale, but I know for a fact that 4v4 5v5 nobody could take us. Our guild has 30 members all the top pvpers and is definately known as one of if not the best pvp guild on the server. The issue I'm trying to outline is A. Healtanks running around spamming healing ultimate and BoL with insane survivability and B. Destro ult and proc sets absolutely carrying the lower skilled players. With the addition of ranked arenas atleast there will be more skill put into the game, and from there you can even expand cyrodiil campaigns having one for each rating level, so only the top play against the top. Skilled play is gone from there current game, small scale play is the only thing to save it.
Best players in the game don't run in groups just saying1 -
templesus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭FloppyTouch wrote: »I am in what is undoubtedly the #1 pvp guild on NA ps4 with likely the best crown in the game. I can assure you we don't get "baited" we do the "baiting". But when you are fighting a 20 man group and they drop 8 destro ults and 5 healing ults you can't do ANYTHING. Sure it will still happen in smaller scale, but I know for a fact that 4v4 5v5 nobody could take us. Our guild has 30 members all the top pvpers and is definately known as one of if not the best pvp guild on the server. The issue I'm trying to outline is A. Healtanks running around spamming healing ultimate and BoL with insane survivability and B. Destro ult and proc sets absolutely carrying the lower skilled players. With the addition of ranked arenas atleast there will be more skill put into the game, and from there you can even expand cyrodiil campaigns having one for each rating level, so only the top play against the top. Skilled play is gone from there current game, small scale play is the only thing to save it.
Best players in the game don't run in groups just saying
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templesus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I am in what is undoubtedly the #1 pvp guild on NA ps4 with likely the best crown in the game. I can assure you we don't get "baited" we do the "baiting". But when you are fighting a 20 man group and they drop 8 destro ults and 5 healing ults you can't do ANYTHING. Sure it will still happen in smaller scale, but I know for a fact that 4v4 5v5 nobody could take us. Our guild has 30 members all the top pvpers and is definately known as one of if not the best pvp guild on the server.
Let me ask you one question. If you were able to wipe those 20-man groups, what would your reaction be? Would you "high five" your teammates and call the 20 players you just wiped "scrubs"? And if your guild is as good as you say, don't you think that those 20 players know this? And know that the only way to beat you is doing what they are doing?
This situation is the same that all the "best" pvp'rs face. They want to 1vX and succeed. But sometimes they lose to X. Many of them just brush it off. But yes, a few of them complain about losing to X.
The adjustment of aoe caps should help make it easier for smaller groups to kill larger ones. But honestly speaking, I don't blame "pugs" or "20-man groups" for using everything they have to wipe you or your group. Of course, I get irritated sometimes, too. But if I'm really honest with myself, I would much rather them to keep coming with everything they have, rather than just give up and avoid the fight.
Please before posing ignorant questions like that take the time to read my original post. I literally say this exact statement in it.
You are unlikeable. Very.
No need for negativity in this post. Please exit via the power button on whatever device you happen to be accessing on.
You started with the negativity. And continue with it. I just gave you back what you initiated.
Please do not derail my post please and thank you.1 -
maxjapank✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I am in what is undoubtedly the #1 pvp guild on NA ps4 with likely the best crown in the game. I can assure you we don't get "baited" we do the "baiting". But when you are fighting a 20 man group and they drop 8 destro ults and 5 healing ults you can't do ANYTHING. Sure it will still happen in smaller scale, but I know for a fact that 4v4 5v5 nobody could take us. Our guild has 30 members all the top pvpers and is definately known as one of if not the best pvp guild on the server.
Let me ask you one question. If you were able to wipe those 20-man groups, what would your reaction be? Would you "high five" your teammates and call the 20 players you just wiped "scrubs"? And if your guild is as good as you say, don't you think that those 20 players know this? And know that the only way to beat you is doing what they are doing?
This situation is the same that all the "best" pvp'rs face. They want to 1vX and succeed. But sometimes they lose to X. Many of them just brush it off. But yes, a few of them complain about losing to X.
The adjustment of aoe caps should help make it easier for smaller groups to kill larger ones. But honestly speaking, I don't blame "pugs" or "20-man groups" for using everything they have to wipe you or your group. Of course, I get irritated sometimes, too. But if I'm really honest with myself, I would much rather them to keep coming with everything they have, rather than just give up and avoid the fight.
Please before posing ignorant questions like that take the time to read my original post. I literally say this exact statement in it.
You are unlikeable. Very.
No need for negativity in this post. Please exit via the power button on whatever device you happen to be accessing on.
You started with the negativity. And continue with it. I just gave you back what you initiated.
Please do not derail my post please and thank you.
You coulda responded to what I wrote. Please don't start a thread and just brush someone off. You seem to wanna hear what you wanna hear. That isn't constructive.0 -
templesus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I am in what is undoubtedly the #1 pvp guild on NA ps4 with likely the best crown in the game. I can assure you we don't get "baited" we do the "baiting". But when you are fighting a 20 man group and they drop 8 destro ults and 5 healing ults you can't do ANYTHING. Sure it will still happen in smaller scale, but I know for a fact that 4v4 5v5 nobody could take us. Our guild has 30 members all the top pvpers and is definately known as one of if not the best pvp guild on the server.
Let me ask you one question. If you were able to wipe those 20-man groups, what would your reaction be? Would you "high five" your teammates and call the 20 players you just wiped "scrubs"? And if your guild is as good as you say, don't you think that those 20 players know this? And know that the only way to beat you is doing what they are doing?
This situation is the same that all the "best" pvp'rs face. They want to 1vX and succeed. But sometimes they lose to X. Many of them just brush it off. But yes, a few of them complain about losing to X.
The adjustment of aoe caps should help make it easier for smaller groups to kill larger ones. But honestly speaking, I don't blame "pugs" or "20-man groups" for using everything they have to wipe you or your group. Of course, I get irritated sometimes, too. But if I'm really honest with myself, I would much rather them to keep coming with everything they have, rather than just give up and avoid the fight.
Please before posing ignorant questions like that take the time to read my original post. I literally say this exact statement in it.
You are unlikeable. Very.
No need for negativity in this post. Please exit via the power button on whatever device you happen to be accessing on.
You started with the negativity. And continue with it. I just gave you back what you initiated.
Please do not derail my post please and thank you.
You coulda responded to what I wrote. Please don't start a thread and just brush someone off. You seem to wanna hear what you wanna hear. That isn't constructive.
Actually I did respond to what you wrote. You posed questions that already had been answered in the OP before being asked and I outlined that to you, you then proceeded to call me unlikable in attempts to derail my post off topic like it is now. Maybe had you not posed questions that already had answers, your comment would hold more meaning and value to it. I advise next time read through the OP before typing up a novel as a reply which easily couldve been cut in half through basic reading comprehension.0 -
Stovahkiin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭It's already dead...
Erm, no, not really. On PC NA alone there is usually at least one fully pop locked campaign at prime time, as well as another campaign with each alliance having three pop bars full... I'm pretty sure that isn't dead.Beware the battle cattle, but don't *fear* the battle cattle!0 -
Dawnblade✭✭✭✭✭Sorry but I can never take Cyradiil seriously as competitive PVP as it is too big, too unconstrained, has no ranking or match making, too open to gaming by guilds, limited objectives, and comes across as just a giant cluster-you-know-what.
Not to say it isn't enjoyable for those that like that style, but it certainly isn't what I'd consider competitive PVP.
Competitive PVP would be something like arenas or instance maps with objectives, limited / fixed sized teams, time / objective limits, with match-making and ranking systems to pit players / groups against similar players / groups.Edited by Dawnblade on January 28, 2017 5:18PM0 -
waterfairy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭The only way pvp can be saved is to shrink the zone by 50% and remove proc sets.0 -
Stovahkiin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭The only way pvp can be saved is to shrink the zone by 50% and remove proc sets.
The zone size is fine in my opinion, people would be able to get to keeps WAY too quickly if the distance between them was cut in half. The removal of proc sets in Cyro is something that I think everyone with a brain can agree on though.Edited by Stovahkiin on January 28, 2017 9:16PMBeware the battle cattle, but don't *fear* the battle cattle!0 -
Dev✭✭✭✭Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »Erm, no, not really. On PC NA alone there is usually at least one fully pop locked campaign at prime time, as well as another campaign with each alliance having three pop bars full... I'm pretty sure that isn't dead.
No point in quoting pop locks since they havent published how many people each alliance can have. They have told us that they reduced the number of people allowed a few times, so it wouldnt really surprise me if the cap was 150 - 200 people per alliance. It is also not accurate, i have entered instantly when ever i would see the AD lock, besides with the new pvp they mentioned today, cyrodil is going to be a ghost town worse then craglorn.
Then again the cynic in me sees the 4x4x4 failing due to bad rules/code/implementation, but since there would be two forms of pvp zoned content, it will at least destroy cyrodil's population. Hopefully they will make a pve version cyrodil and leave one instance as open pvp for the few who would still be here.
Then again, who knows how many pvpers will still be here when they release this. June looks very far away when we havent seen the full impact of u13...0 -
Skinzz✭✭✭✭✭The player mentality in pvp is absolutely trash at this point. Yes zergin existed in the beginning but players were more ballsy back then. You used to be able to initiate a 1v1 fight or a smaller scale fight but now the opposing player will run away until his back up arrives to make it a 10v1. That happened to me on several occasions last night and it forced me to buy a new video game lol.Anybody got a group? LFG, anybody? Hello?0 -
To be honest.... the proc sets, strong builds, yada yada yada... I dont really have a problem with... What I do have a problem with exclusively is the massive lag... If an opponent picks me out in the middle of a large scale battle and I step up to the plate.... there is no competition when I have to hit the same button twice or three times over just for it to register due to the massive lag... Alot of the problems would be lessened if the lag wasnt there... hard to roll away from an Eye of the Storm if one second there is nothing and then the next all hell has broken loose and by the time the roll command registers in the game I am already toasted...
For me, everything would balance aaaaaaalot with lag being fixed.
Oh and chat being reliable would be nice to.....A man fails seven times and rises eight times.0 -
Stovahkiin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭The doom sayers are all over the forum now I see. How's about we wait and see what happens instead of sitting around saying, "Eegh, it's all gerna be ruined and nobody will play it!!!"Beware the battle cattle, but don't *fear* the battle cattle!0 -
AlexTech0x✭✭✭FloppyTouch wrote: »I keep hearing battleground but how the hell would this work? No way you could use ur own build and own team or people are just going to build tanks and heal tanks and go in a lol at anyone that tries to kill them.
It's don't think battlegrounds is the answer it would just be more of the same issues but no way to take them out.
We really can't have this in game at all it's just not made for it. You want small scale 2v2 3v3 stuff play smite.
It's easy actually, cap health at 25k along with battle spirit, ban certain abilities and sets. Done.
Hell no, thats a lot of coding xD0
