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Best magicka nightblade race

binho
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Hey guys,

I want to do a new caracter and it's going to be a magicka nightblade... I've had a few already but always a Breton.
But what's the best overall race for a magicka nightblade?

I know there's 100 different polls out there so I apologise for doing another one :p
Edited by binho on January 22, 2017 10:26AM

Best magicka nightblade race 140 votes

Breton
12%
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Dark elf
46%
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High elf
28%
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Argonian
8%
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Other
3%
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  • Wollust
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    Dark elf
    For pure DPS NB dunmer > everything else
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  • Seraphayel
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    The difference from Altmer / Dunmer and Breton is <2-3%. If you really care for their tiny plus of damage take one of the first two races. If you prefer Breton I'd still go with them.
    Edited by Seraphayel on January 22, 2017 10:27AM
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  • Ghettokid
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    Other
    Orc
  • Berenhir
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    Dark elf
    I picked dunmer though when you are playing in heavy armour and utilize clever alchemist for burst I'd play Argonian.
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  • Fly666monkey
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    Depends. Are you going for damage, or are you Sap Tanking?
    "Let's be honest, I... don't always think my decisions through." -Sanguine
  • AzuraKin
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    Dark elf
    Depends. Are you going for damage, or are you Sap Tanking?

    sap is actually a healer's skill not a tank's skill.
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  • PurifedBladez
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    Argonian
    Keep it real.
  • Micstar
    Micstar
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    High elf
    I personally prefer high elf but dunmer is very good as well.
  • Taternater
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    Dark elf
    Dunmer has racial passives that increase your max magica and stamina at the same time, and that protect you from fire damage which comes into play if you want to try out being a vampire. I point out stamina because even if you don't usually use stamina abilities, you can have an easier time with stamina draining blocking, dodging, sprinting, sneaking, etc. That said I only play stamina because I only have 2 toons and my main one's a stamblade and the other I just use for farming a second set of dailies sometimes so I didn't invest in a different build for her. Well I have 8 if you count storage and crafting mules.
  • binho
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    Guys thanks for all the answers!
    I'm def going for a damage dealer and I can see dunmer is probably the race to go for.
  • ZiRM
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    Ohhhh nooo! Now I have to change my Magblade to a Dark Elf becaue of this poll. :#
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  • stevepdodson_ESO888
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    AzuraKin wrote: »
    Depends. Are you going for damage, or are you Sap Tanking?

    sap is actually a healer's skill not a tank's skill.

    you could also argue that it is an AoE DPSand buff skill if you want to look at it another way...just a very versatile skill
  • Floki_Vilgerdarson
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    Breton
    I hope this helps. I have over 900 cp on my Nightblades so I want to share my experience if it helps others.

    If you want max dps you need the largest magic pool possible. High Elf or Breton. They share a 10% max magic passive that will always mean you can have a larger magic pool than any other race if all other variables are equal. Breton's also have magic cost reduction vs High Elf's magic recovery. Are you someone that prefers cost reduction or recovery?

    Will you use a destro staff? If the answer is yes, then choose High Elf for elemental talent which increases fire,frost and shock damage by 4%. Dark Elf offers 7% increase to fire damage and 2% shock and ice. So Dark Elf with a fire staff and 6% max magic would be good.

    In conclusion:

    Destruction staff magic Nightblade = Dark Elf if Fire Staff and High Elf for Ice or Shock.
    Duel Wield for spell damage= Breton or High Elf
    Vampires= Dark Elf 1st then Breton.




  • MythicEmperor
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    Dark elf
    Dunmer are superior in the lore, therefore it is fitting they are superior in-game.
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    Søren Icehelm, N'wah Warden
    Fargoth of Morrowind, Bosmer commoner
  • Floki_Vilgerdarson
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    Breton
    Dunmer are superior in the lore, therefore it is fitting they are superior in-game.

    How are they "superior in the lore"???
  • FrostFallFox
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    Dark elf
    Dark Elves for the most damage. 9% max magical with 7% flame damage .
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  • Tryxus
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    PvE DPS: Dunmer
    PvP: Dun matter :p
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  • code65536
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    Dark elf
    Dunmer.

    Between my ultimates (Shooting Star), monster set (Grothdarr), staff weaves, and blockade, fire makes up somewhere in the ballpark of half of my outgoing damage.

    So for PvE DPS, Dunmer is unmatched, and the magblade on my alt account is a Dunmer because of that. That having been said, Breton and Altmer are fine too (Breton is arguably the best for PvP), and my main is a Breton that I have no intention of race-changing to Dunmer.
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  • Syrani
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    Will Dunmer still be best once the changes to staves occur? Will the new meta be one lightning, one fire staff? If it changes to one lightning, one fire, wouldn't Altmer be better?
  • Mojmir
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    High elf
    Dunmer has less sustain but more damage I think. NBs need cold damage added.
  • bowmanz607
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    AzuraKin wrote: »
    Depends. Are you going for damage, or are you Sap Tanking?

    sap is actually a healer's skill not a tank's skill.

    It can be healer, dps, or tank.

    It plays a vital role in sap tanking.
  • bowmanz607
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    Keep in mind your playstyle. Dunmer and high elf extra damage comes from for at, fire, and/or lightning. Notice that nb abilities are not elemental based. So are you going to be utilizing elemental skills? If so, how many?

    Further, are you pve or pvp? For pvp the meta is currently to run heavy. Hard times out there right now for light armor. So in that case the Breton cost reduction does well with heavy. Plus the extra damage mitigation and ap gain while still getting damage from max mag.

  • bowmanz607
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    Syrani wrote: »
    Will Dunmer still be best once the changes to staves occur? Will the new meta be one lightning, one fire staff? If it changes to one lightning, one fire, wouldn't Altmer be better?

    All staff combos will be viable next patch. The meta will be more of a push to heavy/mag againb overall. Each staff will be utilized depending on what you are trying to achieve. Lightning/fire will.be best for dps though but will be lacking a good amount in defense. Depends on what you are doing in the game.
  • idk
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    Wollust wrote: »
    For pure DPS NB dunmer > everything else

    Exactly. BiS race for magika NB.

    It goes Dark Elf > High Elf > Bretton and Argonian is a big drop from there.

    Most of the elemental damage is fire which is why Dark Elf is best.
    Edited by idk on January 23, 2017 5:24AM
  • ninjaguyman
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    Argonian
    I race changed from being a dark elf into argonian recently, and of course, the damage on dark elf is better.

    but I've found that the argonian potion passive has been a huge help in resource management in pvp, and with necromancer being an obvious choice for mag nb, you get quite a lot out of resources from potions with this passive.



    Edited by ninjaguyman on January 23, 2017 3:19AM
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  • JinMori
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    High elf and dunmer are the best. For dps.
  • Syrani
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    bowmanz607 wrote: »
    Syrani wrote: »
    Will Dunmer still be best once the changes to staves occur? Will the new meta be one lightning, one fire staff? If it changes to one lightning, one fire, wouldn't Altmer be better?

    All staff combos will be viable next patch. The meta will be more of a push to heavy/mag againb overall. Each staff will be utilized depending on what you are trying to achieve. Lightning/fire will.be best for dps though but will be lacking a good amount in defense. Depends on what you are doing in the game.

    This would be for PVE vet trials. I just figured the meta would shift to lightning staff for AOE bar, and fire staff for single target bar. If that happens, would Altmer be best? Not that I have any decent lightning staff. :(

  • Ch4mpTW
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    For damage and all that jazz, I'd say Altmer/High Elf for a MagNB. Although, my MagNB is an Argonian. Lol.
  • bowmanz607
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    Syrani wrote: »
    bowmanz607 wrote: »
    Syrani wrote: »
    Will Dunmer still be best once the changes to staves occur? Will the new meta be one lightning, one fire staff? If it changes to one lightning, one fire, wouldn't Altmer be better?

    All staff combos will be viable next patch. The meta will be more of a push to heavy/mag againb overall. Each staff will be utilized depending on what you are trying to achieve. Lightning/fire will.be best for dps though but will be lacking a good amount in defense. Depends on what you are doing in the game.

    This would be for PVE vet trials. I just figured the meta would shift to lightning staff for AOE bar, and fire staff for single target bar. If that happens, would Altmer be best? Not that I have any decent lightning staff. :(

    Ya it will end up like that. Lightning aoe and fire single. Altmer would be besthe for that setup imo.
  • PS4_ZeColmeia
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    I love my khajiit magblade and will always say best race, especially as a hybrid. My next favorite, for similar reasons, is dunmer.

    Personally I love the khajiit look and the bonus pickpocketing. I use it alot. Lava damage reduction is pretty meh.
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