Next fotm-meta? (Update 13)

leepalmer95

24 man pet sorc raids.

Able to turn 24 enemies into 72 with pets

96 with atro

120 with shadow clannfear



Also 50k+ magicka, 2.5k + spell damage and lightning staff's for 12k eye of the storm tooltips.

Ashamray

Ishammael wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

I think at the beginning of the patch we'll see a huge increase in magicka DKs because people will want to try out the changes. And then over time things will go back to how the are now.

Completely agree here. I don't see anything in the notes yet that will change the meta too much.

Magicka Templar will remain the most played class, followed closely by Sorcs of both flavors.

Soloing a lot in IC and sometimes in Cyrodiil at nights: magicka templar doesn't look popular. Most of them are usually snb beaming \ spear sharding healers, and very few are pure dd like me. Only stamina templar is even more rare than magplar damage dealer, in my everyday IC experience.

altemriel

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Torbschka wrote: »

Hey guys,

what do u think will become the next "fotm" style?

I dont think that much will change, although I guess:

1. Even fewer mag NB

Khajiit will fight hard!!

Derra

leepalmer95 wrote: »

24 man pet sorc raids.

Able to turn 24 enemies into 72 with pets

96 with atro

120 with shadow clannfear



Also 50k+ magicka, 2.5k + spell damage and lightning staff's for 12k eye of the storm tooltips.

Gonna be super awesome when the pets stop working by this grps self-induced lag.

Xsorus

I tried running pet spec in cyrodiil, just to much of a pain. It's great for dueling though. Slap on frost staff and frost clench people over over while running pirates and you're basically immortal.

Think next patch I may update my nord stam dk and do greenpact/shield breaker/troll kings.

Isellskooma

leepalmer95 wrote: »

24 man pet sorc raids.

Able to turn 24 enemies into 72 with pets

96 with atro

120 with shadow clannfear



Also 50k+ magicka, 2.5k + spell damage and lightning staff's for 12k eye of the storm tooltips.

My friend thats been a pet build for like a year + tried to get this together but couldn't cause no one wanted to play pet sorc, just meta sorc. Hopefully he can get it together next patch.

Yolokin_Swagonborn

Minalan wrote: »

IxSTALKERxI wrote: »

susmitds wrote: »

IxSTALKERxI wrote: »

SkylarkX wrote: »

Funny thing is there will be people making frost tanks, only to get run over by destro ults that go through block. Meta won't change from what we have now.

The frost tanks will be the ones who spam destro.

So? I'll spam destro to, only I won't be holding block like them because it's pointless destro vs destro. They will move 60% slower than someone holding block with a S&B and will need to run a sustain set sacrifising a dps 5 piece in order to block with their magicka pool.

The difference? The ice staff Templar can out heal your destro ultimate with BOL. They can do it now on live.

Give them an ice staff and they're going to be the new alpha class. Now they can outheal your destro ultimate and block your burst. Good luck fighting them without a Zerg behind you.

Also a block sorc can put up 20k shields that will soak up the destro ults since ice blocking and shields now scale from the same resource.

FriedEggSandwich

Derra wrote: »

Magsorcs are pretty overplayed atm.

Can we please make hardened ward + harness magica stop stacking?

Yes please, that would be amazing.

IxSTALKERxI

I mean, I guess you could start blocking if your shields drop? but I still don't see the point. Blocking doesn't mitigate any damage against shields. Either min-max into shield stacking or min-max into blocking, doing both is unnecessary imo and makes the build less effective CP wise.

Sanct16

Can anyone explain to me how block draining the same resource as all your other skills is a positive thing? You pretty much already put almost everything into Magicka anyway, so you will just end up with either huge magicka problems or you will have no damage because you have to build for so much sustain.

Derra

Sanct16 wrote: »

Can anyone explain to me how block draining the same resource as all your other skills is a positive thing? You pretty much already put almost everything into Magicka anyway, so you will just end up with either huge magicka problems or you will have no damage because you have to build for so much sustain.

It´s not going to be the next fotm meta but for certain setups there are going to be possibilities to create something really good out of this.
Especially of magica reactive proccsets providing magica on being hit or blocking.

On those builds you can completely neglect any form of stamina regeneration and will still be more than fine breaking free with the occasional dodgeroll.

Malamar1229

Ghostbane wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Magsorcs are pretty overplayed atm.

Can we please make hardened ward + harness magica stop stacking?

Bring back the original duration and I'm grand with that.

and add some GD light armor passives

Malamar1229

I need to go thru my bank and let @sypher know what sets to use in his build videos for Homestead so I can start selling off this extra gear.

Astanphaeus

Bat attack if I had to guess, although stam proc set nb ganker will still be big thing since the crit nerf barely affects PvP.

Kas

Sanct16 wrote: »

Can anyone explain to me how block draining the same resource as all your other skills is a positive thing? You pretty much already put almost everything into Magicka anyway, so you will just end up with either huge magicka problems or you will have no damage because you have to build for so much sustain.

on pts i was able to block a pve player's rotation for roughly a minute on a light armor sroc without sturdy. it won't be useful in the long run, but it has the potential to give you a serious def boost for a short time. if you over-sustain for "normal" situations, you can (with a frost staff, there are still lots of cons ofc) now have an extra option to block through high burst phases (eg, because you're out of position and have 3+ people actually hitting you when 1vX'ing).

If you're thinking of max damage AoE group eots choo-choo'ing, blocking with magicka is totally useless ofc. I don't know if it will actually be good, but a block-option during solo sorc pvp has potential at least: block+streak(+pet heal) to a better position -> when in a better position, go back to shield-based def and have enough regen in that phase to not only keep a magicka level but gain magicka.