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Lightning Destro ulti

hedna123b14_ESO
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Dropped Fire Destro ulti 10 times - crit averaged between 62-75%
Dropped Lightning Destro ulti 10 times - crit averaged 30-60% with at least 6/10 attempts hitting 30%Maybe I am just that unlucky but can anyone test please?
  • hedna123b14_ESO
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    Please check the Destro Ulti crit chance guys, I keep gettign extremely low crits on it...
  • Horowonnoe
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    Please check the Destro Ulti crit chance guys, I keep gettign extremely low crits on it...

    Just looked at my collection of parse screenshots, and you are right. The crit on fiery rage is mostly in the range of 60-85% for me but the crit on lightning ult is anywhere from 30% - 65% but not higher. That is so odd!
    Fiery ult crit evens out around 70% but on lightning average is more like 45-50%...

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  • hedna123b14_ESO
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    Horowonnoe wrote: »
    Please check the Destro Ulti crit chance guys, I keep gettign extremely low crits on it...

    Just looked at my collection of parse screenshots, and you are right. The crit on fiery rage is mostly in the range of 60-85% for me but the crit on lightning ult is anywhere from 30% - 65% but not higher. That is so odd!
    Fiery ult crit evens out around 70% but on lightning average is more like 45-50%...

    Crazy right?
  • Horowonnoe
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    Horowonnoe wrote: »
    Please check the Destro Ulti crit chance guys, I keep gettign extremely low crits on it...

    Just looked at my collection of parse screenshots, and you are right. The crit on fiery rage is mostly in the range of 60-85% for me but the crit on lightning ult is anywhere from 30% - 65% but not higher. That is so odd!
    Fiery ult crit evens out around 70% but on lightning average is more like 45-50%...

    Crazy right?

    :/ Wonder why that is
    PC / NA
    Templar Healer "False Eye"
    Sorc Healer "Potema the Wolf Queen"
    Warden Healer "Heavy Attacks Online"
    Magicka Nightblade DPS "Nephaleth Telvanni"
    Dragonknight Tank "Nico's Facsimile"

    Builds & Guides:
    Horow's Templar Healer Guide for Trials (Murkmire updated)
    How to get Felms to jump correctly in vAS HM?
    Horow's vMA Magicka Sorc Build for beginners and lazy farmers
    Horow's Magicka Sorc Triple Pet Heavy Attack Build - Summerset Isles Ready
    More builds at anthem-guild.com/pve/.

    Notable Achievements:
    - World's first 18 Axes vAA clear
    - World's first 20+ enrage stack Llothis in vAS HM and World record cone damage
  • LMar
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    Make sure you also report it in game using the /bug tool
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  • Birdovic
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    Will also take a look when the PTS Update went live. I prefer a shock staff on my build, just make it work correctly :neutral:
  • Dracane
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    Can confirm it.
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  • Qbiken
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    Didn´t know this. But 10 times is a little low amount of samples to prove stuff, don´t you think??
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  • redspecter23
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    Qbiken wrote: »
    Didn´t know this. But 10 times is a little low amount of samples to prove stuff, don´t you think??

    Depends how many mobs at a time were hit. If you fire off at 6 - 10 mobs and count all tics for the duration using an addon, it should be more than enough to show a pattern, though more testing and confirmation would be needed.
  • Asayre
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    I tried it 3 times, got 90%, 60% and 60% crit. My spell crit is 65% so seems roughly right. There appears to be a tendency for CombatMetrics to miss some crits, I noticed this with other addons as well but you can check with damage done.

    Attempt 1 - CombatMetric claims 80%, in fact 90%
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    Attempt 2 - CombatMetric claims 60%, in fact 60%
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    Attempt 3 - CombatMetric claims 40%, in fact 60%
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    Reference for any calculation I make Introduction to PvE Damage Calculation
  • Kelces
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    Interesting. I have not tested it myself, however it all might make sense now.

    Some days ago I read a thread about the difference of duration between lightning and fire, which seems to upset some people. Well, it seems you have discovered the balancing factor within this:

    Fire - burst damage
    Lightning - longer constant damage
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  • DPShiro
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    Is this connected to fire proc sets that still crit?
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  • stevepdodson_ESO888
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    further to this, might there be a connection with the "burning status effect" giving you crit on the burn compared to concussion (or whatever it is the status on lightning has changed to in U13)
  • hedna123b14_ESO
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    Asayre wrote: »
    I tried it 3 times, got 90%, 60% and 60% crit. My spell crit is 65% so seems roughly right. There appears to be a tendency for CombatMetrics to miss some crits, I noticed this with other addons as well but you can check with damage done.

    Attempt 1 - CombatMetric claims 80%, in fact 90%
    512b2cd78a3cd7ccd5aa61185b64c624.png

    Attempt 2 - CombatMetric claims 60%, in fact 60%
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    Attempt 3 - CombatMetric claims 40%, in fact 60%
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    I have been double checking with FTC as well. I have been testing rotations on sorc and templar all day yesterday and while there were a few (2-3) 60%+ crits of the ulti, the vast majority is 30-50%. I have 65% crit...However I would like more people to test to make sure its *** just an issue on my end, but I literally have looked at 100 parses yesterday and ot consistantly hits really low.
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