@PTS Patch Notes: Templars? Really?

Bam_Bam

Everyone who is leaving, please send me your gold/items. Many thanks. xx

Paneross

Make mass hysteria single target now.

geonsocal

Idinuse wrote: »

Cancelled my membership. Nothing more to say. Thank you for understanding.

no disrespect - but, this don't make no sense...there's bunches and bunches of different build iterations based on race, abilities, attributes, gear (sets, glyphs, traits), food/drink, pots, mundus...i'm sure i'm forgetting stuff...

i get it - if you're burnt out, bored, more interested in something else - okay, makes sense...cuz of some adjustment done by zos...not so much...still a lot of pve and pvp content - except if you've accomplished pretty much everything - but, that goes more towards burnt out and bored...

Edit: ha ha, didn't read the whole thread before responding (the 'i quit post' triggered me )...seems there's a bunch of you feeling some pain...sorry folks

Mojmir

geonsocal wrote: »

Idinuse wrote: »

Cancelled my membership. Nothing more to say. Thank you for understanding.

no disrespect - but, this don't make no sense...there's bunches and bunches of different build iterations based on race, abilities, attributes, gear (sets, glyphs, traits), food/drink, pots, mundus...i'm sure i'm forgetting stuff...

i get it - if you're burnt out, bored, more interested in something else - okay, makes sense...cuz of some adjustment done by zos...not so much...still a lot of pve and pvp content - except if you've accomplished pretty much everything - but, that goes more towards burnt out and bored...

True,until you reach endgame. Then, your options are limited.

Despite

Idinuse wrote: »

Cancelled my membership. Nothing more to say. Thank you for understanding.

lol /facepalm

Asmael

I just found a video, and this thread right after.

Pretty funny indeed, definitely, there'll be no more magplar DDs in PvE.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO6pBUbNKY0

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Time to git gud.

Idinuse

geonsocal wrote: »

Idinuse wrote: »

Cancelled my membership. Nothing more to say. Thank you for understanding.

no disrespect - but, this don't make no sense...there's bunches and bunches of different build iterations based on race, abilities, attributes, gear (sets, glyphs, traits), food/drink, pots, mundus...i'm sure i'm forgetting stuff...

i get it - if you're burnt out, bored, more interested in something else - okay, makes sense...cuz of some adjustment done by zos...not so much...still a lot of pve and pvp content - except if you've accomplished pretty much everything - but, that goes more towards burnt out and bored...

Edit: ha ha, didn't read the whole thread before responding (the 'i quit post' triggered me )...seems there's a bunch of you feeling some pain...sorry folks

Can you please quote me where I wrote I quit as opposed to canceling my membership/sub.

If nothing in my quoted so called "I quit post" says quitting or leaving, then I suggest you point your beacon somehere else, and I accept your apology

Thank you for understanding.

Idinuse

Despite wrote: »

Idinuse wrote: »

Cancelled my membership. Nothing more to say. Thank you for understanding.

lol /facepalm

lol /nosebridgepinch

Enslaved

akl77 wrote: »

Templar will officially be a class if you want to play as a healer, nothing else works.
Dps? Will lose to every other class.

You can also be a perma blocking tank.

Brrrofski

I got to be honest, you're all super going way over the top.

Magplar are up there with stam NB in PvP. They still be. They'll still be really strong in PvE too.

If you're struggling in PvP, your builds is wrong quite simply. I play everything in PvP mainly for campaign rewards. Play a magplar then a stamplar or magica NB. You'll see what I mean. Magplar is in a very good place and will be. Solo play it is behind a stam NB, stam dk and stam sorc, but group play it's probably the strongest.

I kind of like the cc being removed from shards. It's a zergling skill. I mean, I use it and so do a lot of smaller group players, but it is abused by idiots in zergs. Destro ult and spear spam. BUT, now magplar doesn't have a non dodgeable cc, which is just stupid. That needs addressing.

They changed the wrong thing about radiant. Really hope they LISTEN and change the damage back but reduce the range. The way it is now just hurts PvE. If that's what they wanted that's one thing. But it won't stop those zerglings (those spear spammers) standing at the back and just keeping a constant beam on someone waiting for them to hit 30% then instantly melt.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

NiclasFridholm wrote: »

Has anyone tried if the Inferno staff 8% bonus works on sweeps?

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3661655/#Comment_3661655

For all skills, Dual Wield was more potent than using either staff. Fire Staff only helped Dark Flare and Radiant Oppression (unsurprising). All of our other main DPS class skills are AOE and are buffed by lightning staves with the exception of Ritual of Retribution, which is buffed by neither staff (is this a bug?).

Cyrediath

Yea templar emperors with dark flare+beam insra death. Buff more so they can one shot with flare only please.

Lore_lai

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Templars have a choice now.

Blazing for an initial aoe hit and a nice dot
Luminous for an initial aoe hit and a cc that goes through block.

Choose.

Except Luminous' CC instantly breaks on damage (and you can bet the person you're trying to CC is taking some splash damage from some source or another, or you have some sort of DoT on them), basically making the skill = free CC immunity.

geonsocal

Idinuse wrote: »

geonsocal wrote: »

Idinuse wrote: »

Cancelled my membership. Nothing more to say. Thank you for understanding.

no disrespect - but, this don't make no sense...there's bunches and bunches of different build iterations based on race, abilities, attributes, gear (sets, glyphs, traits), food/drink, pots, mundus...i'm sure i'm forgetting stuff...

i get it - if you're burnt out, bored, more interested in something else - okay, makes sense...cuz of some adjustment done by zos...not so much...still a lot of pve and pvp content - except if you've accomplished pretty much everything - but, that goes more towards burnt out and bored...

Edit: ha ha, didn't read the whole thread before responding (the 'i quit post' triggered me )...seems there's a bunch of you feeling some pain...sorry folks

Can you please quote me where I wrote I quit as opposed to canceling my membership/sub.

If nothing in my quoted so called "I quit post" says quitting or leaving, then I suggest you point your beacon somehere else, and I accept your apology

Thank you for understanding.

i'm sorry @Idinuse , my bad - i guess the air of defeat in the thread's tone is what got me going

i do get it though, for those of you whom actually do have a really good understanding of the game mechanics, who do take the time to read through each and every ability and passive, keep current on the "meta's" - having the devs seemingly randomly switch up stuff, nerf/buff certain items would be frustrating as heck...

sometimes it is true: ignorance, can be bliss...cuz, everything looks good from my view

Bramir

Nerf bolt escape!

Kodrac

bottleofsyrup wrote: »

How are we supposed to protect our house now?

This sounds like an Under Armor commercial.

austinwalter87ub17_ESO

BohnT wrote: »

Lol this is literally the most stupid thread in this forum. Maybe on par with the crying about destro ult being to weak, stam sorcs buffs are crap or 2h ulti is ridiculous overpowered. Magplars are so damn good in pve and pvp they dominate almost everywhere if you play them right as they can support, heal and deal massive damage at the same time.

Everyone who played a magplar once and used beam knows how stupidly overpowered the ability is. The pvp nerf for shards is hard but I'm pretty sure most skilled players can play around it.

"this is literally the most stupid thread in this forum"

Not really. Templars were unnecessarily nerfed in numerous ways. The stun removal on Blazing Spear, is completely unnecessary. This change hurts Templar Healers and Tanks more than offensive based Magplars. No one was complaining about anything in the Templar arsenal besides Radiant Oppression, and the damage of Radiant Oppression isn't even what makes it powerful. What makes it powerful is the the execute threshold andrange combined with the fact that you can't dodge it or lose target. The only way is to line of sight the Templar. Dodge rolling won't help you.

The PVP nerf for shards is rough, correct. But there shouldn't even exist a nerf, which is the entire point.

Rohaus

Sometimes it feels like a class that is really strong, for a long period of time, gets destroyed big time with a huge ole nerf hammer in multiple ways...

A GOOD Templar healer did more than just heal... they brought utility to the fight!

I am glad to see RD get nerfed... to this day, I still get beamed by multiples while at full health... they are all just waiting for real damage to come through so they can get their insta gib...

Still, I don't think removing this stun was necessary... what is a Magplar to do now when they get focused? Oh, just heal I guess... and scream to their team mates they need help...

THEDKEXPERIENCE

I look forward to the day when I'm the only DPS Magplar left in Cyrodiil. I'll keep 99% of my build only doing a one time respec after I read the live tool tip changes.

Effectively these nerfs will change nothing.

I'll even still beam you at full health because it's only done for three reasons that won't change ...

1) I hit the wrong person.
2) I'm doing it to scare you away from a keep door.
3) I'm literally drawing a line to you for my group to follow.

Edit: and I'm still going to be spamming Entropy and then pokey sticks in dungeons same as ever. Now I'll just have to hit the boss maybe once more with a beam at the end.

DragonBound

BohnT wrote: »

Lol this is literally the most stupid thread in this forum. Maybe on par with the crying about destro ult being to weak, stam sorcs buffs are crap or 2h ulti is ridiculous overpowered. Magplars are so damn good in pve and pvp they dominate almost everywhere if you play them right as they can support, heal and deal massive damage at the same time.

Everyone who played a magplar once and used beam knows how stupidly overpowered the ability is. The pvp nerf for shards is hard but I'm pretty sure most skilled players can play around it.

I think magplar is really boring to play partly because how easy to play they already are, but they could of been changed better in my opinion.

LiquidSchwartz

Luminous shard still stuns and is unblockable

Koensol

LiquidSchwartz wrote: »

Luminous shard still stuns and is unblockable

It doesn't stun. It disorients. Which is a crappy ass soft cc that breaks on dmg.

Idinuse

LiquidSchwartz wrote: »

Luminous shard still stuns and is unblockable

The disorient CC breaks on any damage, instantly giving the target CC immunity. Brilliant.

Robbmrp

Shards will only be used now in PVE to help with Tank Stamina return. The damage from it is pretty abysmal even with the longer ticks.