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Hexys Magicka Sorcerer PvP Build for Update 12 - One Tamriel (2.6.5) - Insane stats!

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Hexys Magicka Sorcerer PvP Build for Update 12 - One Tamriel (2.6.5)
Welcome everyone to my Magicka Sorcerer PvP build. Since the release of One Tamriel I've tried and tested many different builds and came to a final build some weeks ago in which I could perform at maximum. This build is suitable for Duels, 1vX, small group, basically every type of PvP that you enjoy! The setup surrounds two 5-piece armor sets which both give a big amount to your max stats and recovery, because of this we have the freedom to spec everything else into damage!

Most magicka sorcerers are running Spinner/Lich/Undaunted at the moment, the build that I'm about to show you has almost identical damage but an significant increase in survivability!

Build Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VE4MOD6hTIY

Build in Action
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG8yzngmozA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srnvJyn02vI

Race
To start off there are 3 races that suits this build the best.

1. Breton
- 10% increased max magicka
- Increased spell resistance by 4k
- 3% Reduced magicka cost of spells

2. Altmer
- 10% increased max magicka
- 9% increased magicka recovery in combat
- 4% increased elemental damage

3. Dunmer
- 6% increased max magicka and stamina
- Increased Fire Resistance and 3% increased max magicka
- 7% increased spell damage with fire effects and 2% with Shock/Frost effects.

Attributes / Mundus stone / Consumable
Attributes / Mundus stone / Consumable
Attributes
64 magicka / 0 health / 0 stamina
All our attributes will go into magicka (Bigger shields and more damage).

Mundus stone
The Atronach
This is for sustain, I take this because I like the 'over' sustain, you can run the Thief/Mage/Apprentice if you like more damage.

Consumable
V15 Purple food that is increasing our Max Magicka, Max Health and Magicka Recovery
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This food is just insane for magicka sorcerers, it gives us space for more damage.

Setup
5 Light / 1 Heavy / 1 Medium (all cp160)

Gear
5/5 Trainee
http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Armor+of+the+Trainee+Set
(2 item) 1064 Max Health
(3 item) 967 Max Magicka
(4 item) 967 Max Stamina
(5 item) Increases your Max Health, Magicka and Stamina by 2484


Body: Heavy - Reinfored - Max Magicka
Boots: Medium - Training - Maximum Magicka
Necklace: Arcane - Spell Damage
Ring: Arcane - Spell Damage
Ring: Arcane - Spell Damage

Obtainable in: Starter Islands
Unique Body: Quest - http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Tip_of_the_Spearhead

5/5 Amberplasm
http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Amber+Plasm+Set
(2 items) 967 Max Magicka
(3 items) 688 Spell Critical
(4 items) 129 Spell Damage
(5 items) 300 Stamina Recovery & 300 Magicka Recovery.


Helm: Light - Impenetrable - Maximum Magicka
Shoulders: Light - Impenetrable - Maximum Magicka
Gloves: Light - Impenetrable - Maximum Magicka
Sash: Light - Impenetrable - Maximum Magicka
Legs: Light - Impenetrable - Maximum Magicka

Obtainable in: Ruins of Mazzatun (requires ESOplus or the Shadow of the Hist DLC)
The first two bosses drop all the armor pieces, if you don't have a maelstrom or master destro, you have to kill all the bosses in order to get a amberplasm destro(sharpened)/resto(defending)!

1/1 Maelstrom or Masterstaff, I prefer flame, but lightning works good to!
(Maelstrom) 189 Spell Damage
(Master) 967 Max Magicka


Obtainable in: Veteran Maelstrom Arena, Veteran Dragonstar Arena
use poisons on the main-bar.

Random Restoration Staff
Make sure you craft a defending staff, the enchant is personal preferences, I like to play with the prismatic enchant as the majority of PvP players are vampires.

Ability Bars
The ability bar setup is how I like to play, the skills don't affect the stats of this build, if you like to use different skills, you can!

Destruction Staff (1st ability bar)

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1. Destructive Reach (Destruction Staff, morph of Reach)
- I really like this ability over Force Pulse/Crushing Shock, you can instantly put offensive players into defensive, curse them and wait for them to gapclose, reach them into a frag and if they are squishy enough a fury might even finish them off!

2. Crystal Fragments (Dark Magic, morph of Crystal Shard)
- It's important that this ability hits your opponent around the same time as Velicious Curse. If you know your procced frag is gonna knock the enemy down, hardcast another one straight after.

3. Hardened Ward (Deadric Summoning, morph of Conjured Ward)
- Our main shield against all attacks, 100% uptime.

4. Endless Fury (Storm Calling, morph of Mage's Fury)
- This execute became super strong and is now instant damage under 20%, with this ability you are literally fighting enemies with 80% of their health. If you kill an enemy you also return 4.4k magicka which is a lot!

5. Streak (Storm Calling, morph of Bolt Escape)
- I prefer offensive playstyle, for the stun, damage and get nightblades out of stealth.

U. Eye of the Storm (Destruction Staff, morph of Fire Storm)
- This ultimate is way to powerfull, I mostly use it on tanks or when I'm in serious trouble. The reason this ability is so strong is that the base damage is so high and it is damage while you can cast your own ability's.

Restoration Staff (2nd ability bar)

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1. Healing Ward (Restoration Staff, morph of Steadfast Ward)
- Our healing ability for if opponents manage to get some health down.

2. Boundless Storm (Storm Calling, morph of Lightning Form)
- This is for our resistance, some nice speed and a little bit of offensive pressure.

3. Harness Magicka (Light armor, morph of Annulment)
- Our 2nd shield that helps us with extra resource management versus magicka builds, makes your magicka ressources almost infinite.

4. Velicious Curse (Deadric Summoning, morph of Deadric Curse)
- Our timed burst ability that works against every player, unblockable now! :smiley:

5. Power Surge (Storm Calling, morph of Surge)
- Main spell damage buff and some extra heals.

U. Energy Overload (Storm Calling, morph of Overload)
- This ultimate is to open up a 3rd ability bar.

Overload Bar (3nd ability bar)

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1. Defensive Rune (Dark Magic, morph of Rune Prison)
- Anti-gank ability, nice for riding your horse towards the next keep/location. Also nice for magicka dk's because this CC goes through block.

2. Shuffle (Medium armor, morph of Evasion)
- Dodge chance is superstrong in the game.

3. Hardened Ward (Deadric Summoning, morph of Conjured Ward)
- Our main shield on the overload bar.

4. Deadric Minefield (Dark Magic, morph of Deadric Mines)
- I'm not a fan of camping mines myself, but it gives you a little safe-zone and some extra burst against those aggressive players.

5. Streak (Storm Calling, morph of Bolt Escape)
- Mobility on the overload bar.

Champion System (based on 561 points)
The Tower: 100 Magician
The Lover: 73 Arcanist
The Shadow: 13 Tumbling | 1 Shadow Ward

The Apprentice: 100 Elemental Expert | 61 Elfborn | 23 Spell Erosion
The Atronach: 1 Staff Expert / 1 Shattering Blows
The Ritual: 1 Thaumaturge

The Steed: 30 Resistant
The Lady: 27 Hardy | 27 Elemental Defender / 3 Thick Skinned
The Lord: 100 Bastion

Extra
- Vampire: Yes
- Werewolf: No
- Alchemy passive Medicinal Use 3/3
- Use Tri-Stat Potions

Buffs: none
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Buffs: Power Surge / Tri-stat Potion
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I hope this build suits you well and gives you good fights in Cyrodiil, I'm open for suggestions and ways to improve for a even better experience. Enjoy!

For questions leave a post or /w ingame (EU Megaserver) on @Hexiss
Edited by Hexys on January 3, 2017 10:42AM
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  • Ahzek
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  • Lieblingsjunge
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    Good job, Hexys ♥

    I'm considering starting my sorc(for the 7th time??!) - I'm too lazy to farm Amberplasm. Any ideas for a set that might work instead of Amberplasm? Sure, I could farm Amberplasm but, sigh.. THE EFFORT. So if there's any half-decent choice, let me know, please c:?

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  • Hexys
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    Good job, Hexys ♥

    I'm considering starting my sorc(for the 7th time??!) - I'm too lazy to farm Amberplasm. Any ideas for a set that might work instead of Amberplasm? Sure, I could farm Amberplasm but, sigh.. THE EFFORT. So if there's any half-decent choice, let me know, please c:?

    Enjoy the post-christmas-between-new-years-eve-period-thingy.

    Thanks Lieb, a good time to you to! You can craft Seducer/Kagrenac/Julianos instead.
    Edited by Hexys on December 25, 2016 9:25PM
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  • Hexys
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    Ahzek wrote: »
    Playing ESO PvP in 2016 LUL.

    I miss our old duels man, back when you still played magicka!
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  • Minalan
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    The sustain on this beats 90% of stamina builds, and uses shuffle.

    Interesting setup, really. I hadn't considered that.
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    Very very nice, but... Burning Spellweave would provide you with more damage and is just generally better imo...

    Good choice on Amberplasm, always tried to find a way to use this set, always ended up using the lich because of the ability of having it on the back bar.

    I might try to adapt my dual wield build to include Amber and use Shuffle myself.
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  • Hexys
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    Minalan wrote: »
    The sustain on this beats 90% of stamina builds, and uses shuffle.

    Interesting setup, really. I hadn't considered that.

    Sustain always FTW on magicka sorc! thanks.
    Very very nice, but... Burning Spellweave would provide you with more damage and is just generally better imo...

    Good choice on Amberplasm, always tried to find a way to use this set, always ended up using the lich because of the ability of having it on the back bar.

    I might try to adapt my dual wield build to include Amber and use Shuffle myself.

    Spellweave is overkill on spell damage for a magicka sorcerer, you have more then enough damage as the base damage of curse/frag/fury explosion are already more then high enough. It's way more worth to spec into survivability.
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    I love the whispers in your screens.

    Can´t say i agree on everything said here - but it´s a very solid setup.
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  • KisoValley
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    Agree with the point on survivability. Sorcs have always had insane burst because of the base damage on frags/curse etc. so you don't need to stack spell damage as much and building for survivability is important on sorc more than other magicka classes (except magdk maybe, although that's a different topic altogether).

    Nice build video mate.
  • Ganj
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    Good sustain but in 1vX you might need more damage or spell pen for example finish them fast before zergs come out from no where. I have tried this build like a month ago but gave up after 2-3 days because of these tanks i felt like i have to use spinner eventually.

    Stats are kinda standart in my opinion, these days people running 50k max magicka.
    Edited by Ganj on December 26, 2016 2:17PM
  • Sanct16
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    Ganj wrote: »
    Good sustain but in 1vX you might need more damage or spell pen for example finish them fast before zergs come out from no where. I have tried this build like a month ago but gave up after 2-3 days because of these tanks i felt like i have to use spinner eventually.

    Stats are kinda standart in my opinion, these days people running 50k max magicka.
    Well he didn't say insane max magicka...
    24k hp 39k mag 14k stam with 2k magreg and 1k stamreg is quite good. With spinner lich infernal you probably have around 20k hp 38k mag 10k stam 2k magreg 600 stamreg, which is quite a bit lower.

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    Personally i´m running three different setups at the moment all with witchmothers food (first one in grps, second against magica builds, third against stam builds):

    Bsw 5p + Lich 5p + 2p Monster (all spelldmg jewelry + thief)

    Bsw 5p + Amberplasm 5p + 1p max magica (1 magreg enchant + thief)

    Amberplasm 5p + Willpower 3p + Monster 2p + Maelstrom weaps (1 magreg enchant + thief)

    Sadly there is currently no real difference between running 21 or 25k HP with 1.5k or 2.5k impen (i´ve tried both extensively). A properly executed proccgank will kill you in both scenarios. So i´ve stuck to running 21k HP and ~ 2200 impen.

    Edit: Last but not least i´m working on DW with: 5 spinner 5 amber slimecraw and trifood.
    Edited by Derra on December 26, 2016 5:55PM
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  • Hexys
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    Derra wrote: »
    Personally i´m running three different setups at the moment all with witchmothers food (first one in grps, second against magica builds, third against stam builds):

    Bsw 5p + Lich 5p + 2p Monster (all spelldmg jewelry + thief)

    Bsw 5p + Amberplasm 5p + 1p max magica (1 magreg enchant + thief)

    Amberplasm 5p + Willpower 3p + Monster 2p + Maelstrom weaps (1 magreg enchant + thief)

    Sadly there is currently no real difference between running 21 or 25k HP with 1.5k or 2.5k impen (i´ve tried both extensively). A properly executed proccgank will kill you in both scenarios. So i´ve stuck to running 21k HP and ~ 2200 impen.

    Edit: Last but not least i´m working on DW with: 5 spinner 5 amber slimecraw and trifood.

    I really don't feel that BSW was a good improvement, the damage is overkill and with lower spell damage you kill at almost the same rate, for tanks you just destrolol anyway. It's like playing stamblade were the procs do the damage for you while you sustain endlessly and gain survivablity this way. :p
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  • Derra
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    Hexys wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    Personally i´m running three different setups at the moment all with witchmothers food (first one in grps, second against magica builds, third against stam builds):

    Bsw 5p + Lich 5p + 2p Monster (all spelldmg jewelry + thief)

    Bsw 5p + Amberplasm 5p + 1p max magica (1 magreg enchant + thief)

    Amberplasm 5p + Willpower 3p + Monster 2p + Maelstrom weaps (1 magreg enchant + thief)

    Sadly there is currently no real difference between running 21 or 25k HP with 1.5k or 2.5k impen (i´ve tried both extensively). A properly executed proccgank will kill you in both scenarios. So i´ve stuck to running 21k HP and ~ 2200 impen.

    Edit: Last but not least i´m working on DW with: 5 spinner 5 amber slimecraw and trifood.

    I really don't feel that BSW was a good improvement, the damage is overkill and with lower spell damage you kill at almost the same rate, for tanks you just destrolol anyway. It's like playing stamblade were the procs do the damage for you while you sustain endlessly and gain survivablity this way. :p

    In a group where you´re the only player with destro ultimate there is no dmg overkill :hushed:

    Against another sorc there is no dmg overkill either - most sorc players still stack three shields which is only breakable with very high dmg (or of they make mistakes).
    I like BSW over any other set in that case because it does not let the enemy adjust to dmg. Between nonprocced and fullprocced there is more than 20% difference in tooltip dmg which catches even good players off guard.

    But i don´t play with harness/dampen so i need offensive pressure over anything else because being defensive with one shield is not a position one wants to be in.
    Edited by Derra on December 27, 2016 9:06AM
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  • NoFlash
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    moar pls!
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  • TreeHugger1
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    Derra wrote: »
    Hexys wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    Personally i´m running three different setups at the moment all with witchmothers food (first one in grps, second against magica builds, third against stam builds):

    Bsw 5p + Lich 5p + 2p Monster (all spelldmg jewelry + thief)

    Bsw 5p + Amberplasm 5p + 1p max magica (1 magreg enchant + thief)

    Amberplasm 5p + Willpower 3p + Monster 2p + Maelstrom weaps (1 magreg enchant + thief)

    Sadly there is currently no real difference between running 21 or 25k HP with 1.5k or 2.5k impen (i´ve tried both extensively). A properly executed proccgank will kill you in both scenarios. So i´ve stuck to running 21k HP and ~ 2200 impen.

    Edit: Last but not least i´m working on DW with: 5 spinner 5 amber slimecraw and trifood.

    I really don't feel that BSW was a good improvement, the damage is overkill and with lower spell damage you kill at almost the same rate, for tanks you just destrolol anyway. It's like playing stamblade were the procs do the damage for you while you sustain endlessly and gain survivablity this way. :p

    In a group where you´re the only player with destro ultimate there is no dmg overkill :hushed:

    Against another sorc there is no dmg overkill either - most sorc players still stack three shields which is only breakable with very high dmg (or of they make mistakes).
    I like BSW over any other set in that case because it does not let the enemy adjust to dmg. Between nonprocced and fullprocced there is more than 20% difference in tooltip dmg which catches even good players off guard.

    But i don´t play with harness/dampen so i need offensive pressure over anything else because being defensive with one shield is not a position one wants to be in.

    I have about 70 points in shaterring blows cp(elfborn is also a great option),it is way more efficient than spell erosion,with the same amount of points you deal 5 times more damage.
    Its funny to see all the great streamer put 50 points in spell erosion and get like 4% more damage...so stupid
    Edited by TreeHugger1 on December 27, 2016 11:02AM
  • Ganj
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    Sanct16 wrote: »
    Ganj wrote: »
    Good sustain but in 1vX you might need more damage or spell pen for example finish them fast before zergs come out from no where. I have tried this build like a month ago but gave up after 2-3 days because of these tanks i felt like i have to use spinner eventually.

    Stats are kinda standart in my opinion, these days people running 50k max magicka.
    Well he didn't say insane max magicka...
    24k hp 39k mag 14k stam with 2k magreg and 1k stamreg is quite good. With spinner lich infernal you probably have around 20k hp 38k mag 10k stam 2k magreg 600 stamreg, which is quite a bit lower.

    Well i didnt say that he said insane max magicka aswell. I also said that "good sustain" which means good stats and there is no doubt stats are good. But insane? I just mentioned someting else which was my opinion anyway. I prefer to kill quickly if im running solo (1vX) because people can stack so fast these days.
    Edited by Ganj on December 27, 2016 1:47PM
  • Derra
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    Derra wrote: »
    Hexys wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    Personally i´m running three different setups at the moment all with witchmothers food (first one in grps, second against magica builds, third against stam builds):

    Bsw 5p + Lich 5p + 2p Monster (all spelldmg jewelry + thief)

    Bsw 5p + Amberplasm 5p + 1p max magica (1 magreg enchant + thief)

    Amberplasm 5p + Willpower 3p + Monster 2p + Maelstrom weaps (1 magreg enchant + thief)

    Sadly there is currently no real difference between running 21 or 25k HP with 1.5k or 2.5k impen (i´ve tried both extensively). A properly executed proccgank will kill you in both scenarios. So i´ve stuck to running 21k HP and ~ 2200 impen.

    Edit: Last but not least i´m working on DW with: 5 spinner 5 amber slimecraw and trifood.

    I really don't feel that BSW was a good improvement, the damage is overkill and with lower spell damage you kill at almost the same rate, for tanks you just destrolol anyway. It's like playing stamblade were the procs do the damage for you while you sustain endlessly and gain survivablity this way. :p

    In a group where you´re the only player with destro ultimate there is no dmg overkill :hushed:

    Against another sorc there is no dmg overkill either - most sorc players still stack three shields which is only breakable with very high dmg (or of they make mistakes).
    I like BSW over any other set in that case because it does not let the enemy adjust to dmg. Between nonprocced and fullprocced there is more than 20% difference in tooltip dmg which catches even good players off guard.

    But i don´t play with harness/dampen so i need offensive pressure over anything else because being defensive with one shield is not a position one wants to be in.

    I have about 70 points in shaterring blows cp(elfborn is also a great option),it is way more efficient than spell erosion,with the same amount of points you deal 5 times more damage.
    Its funny to see all the great streamer put 50 points in spell erosion and get like 4% more damage...so stupid

    I usually go for higher heals lower shield builds. That´s why i prefer elfborn over shattering blows (it works for defense and offense and has great synergie with surge + shields).

    I´d invest more into shattering blows if shields would get out of hand again. At the moment i´m happy with where i´m at most of the time. With one addition: As a sorc i have the luxury to leave fights against other magica sorcs at will.
    If someone just wants to play perma shieldbar 123 123 123 123 i´ll leave to have fun with themselves.
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  • TreeHugger1
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    Yea that is smart though I slot purge instead of surge(probably stupid) because I always get poisoned and snared to death,the cost is fine because if I wont slot it poisons will drain all of my magicka....
    Anyway the 20% + more damage against shields is really amazing I can apply more pressure against light armor targets.
    Edited by TreeHugger1 on December 27, 2016 3:57PM
  • Malamar1229
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    ^
    you mean the 3 or 4 light armor players still in Cyrodiil. :smiley:
  • cschwingeb14_ESO
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    I run amber plasm, willpower, 2x monster magicka bonuses and vMA as Dunmer. Tri-pot/food, atro. I tried really hard to make Trainee work, but it always looses out to willpower + 2x magicka monster piece IMO. Losing 2% undaunted, 1 trait (reinforced heavy chest is pretty good) seems to negate the advantage of trainee stats too much

    40k magicka, 22k health, 15k stam without inner light or bound aegis, 1500 mag recovery, 1100 stam regen and 3k spell damage self buffed and tri food. It's a bit magicka pot dependent (magicka+immovable) when necessary, but trash pots are cheap.

    If I ever try to run DW or 1H/S again, then trainee will be in there


  • Hexys
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    I run amber plasm, willpower, 2x monster magicka bonuses and vMA as Dunmer. Tri-pot/food, atro. I tried really hard to make Trainee work, but it always looses out to willpower + 2x magicka monster piece IMO. Losing 2% undaunted, 1 trait (reinforced heavy chest is pretty good) seems to negate the advantage of trainee stats too much

    40k magicka, 22k health, 15k stam without inner light or bound aegis, 1500 mag recovery, 1100 stam regen and 3k spell damage self buffed and tri food. It's a bit magicka pot dependent (magicka+immovable) when necessary, but trash pots are cheap.

    If I ever try to run DW or 1H/S again, then trainee will be in there


    You are running a build that a good friend of mine is running, he likes your build more. I really like it that magicka sorcerer has so much diversity in builds at this moment. They all work really well it's just that some shines more in different situations! :)

    I'm totally not a fan of dual wield, having no spammable is kinda annoying.
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  • GrigorijMalahevich
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    @Hexys thank you for the build brother!
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  • Hexys
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    @Hexys thank you for the build brother!

    Good to hear it helped you out man!

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    More footage with the build!
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  • KisoValley
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    You got 1 ugly Breton bro

    Nice build but quite clearly lich/spinner is better...
  • Hexys
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    KisoValley wrote: »
    You got 1 ugly Breton bro

    Nice build but quite clearly lich/spinner is better...

    Don't touch my breton! haha **** spinner/lich :D
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  • Methariorn
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    How much time did it take to get the trainee jewels? For sustain I don't know if I'm willing to give up lich.
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  • Hexys
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    Methariorn wrote: »
    How much time did it take to get the trainee jewels? For sustain I don't know if I'm willing to give up lich.

    I bought them so almost no time, lich is really *** in my opninion. 1000 magicka recovery for 20 seconds with a 60 seconds cooldown means (2sec = 1 tick so 10 ticks of 1000 magicka recovery is 10k magicka ). At the same time amberplasm gives 300 magicka recovery which is over 60 seconds (30 ticks) so 9k magicka. Now you also gain 300 stamina recovery running amberplasm.

    If it happens that after your 20 seconds of lich, you have to streak 3-4 times, your magicka is R.I.P.
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  • Derra
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    Hexys wrote: »
    Methariorn wrote: »
    How much time did it take to get the trainee jewels? For sustain I don't know if I'm willing to give up lich.

    I bought them so almost no time, lich is really *** in my opninion. 1000 magicka recovery for 20 seconds with a 60 seconds cooldown means (2sec = 1 tick so 10 ticks of 1000 magicka recovery is 10k magicka ). At the same time amberplasm gives 300 magicka recovery which is over 60 seconds (30 ticks) so 9k magicka. Now you also gain 300 stamina recovery running amberplasm.

    If it happens that after your 20 seconds of lich, you have to streak 3-4 times, your magicka is R.I.P.

    It´s not thaaat easy.

    Both setups come with a completely different playstyle and can´t really be compared. For soloing and duo hexys setup will most likely outperform anything with lich.
    For grps it´s a lot closer and personally i´d give any setup able to utilize any undaunted 2p the go before trainee amber.
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  • Belethorn
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    Hexys wrote: »
    I bought them so almost no time, lich is really *** in my opninion. 1000 magicka recovery for 20 seconds with a 60 seconds cooldown means (2sec = 1 tick so 10 ticks of 1000 magicka recovery is 10k magicka ). At the same time amberplasm gives 300 magicka recovery which is over 60 seconds (30 ticks) so 9k magicka. Now you also gain 300 stamina recovery running amberplasm.

    If it happens that after your 20 seconds of lich, you have to streak 3-4 times, your magicka is R.I.P.

    The lich cooldown actually starts at the proc so it's a 40 seconds cooldown and makes it a little bit better.

    But anyway overall I think amberplasm > lich , the extra gear slot that lich gives can be nice and can let you have 1 monster set piece for whatever 1 piece bonus you need but lich is overkill, the 300 stam regen from amberplasm is really nice and more useful.(minor bug with Lich, it procs when you shoot a wall with sieges when not in cooldown, just like Warlock and that's since launch...)
    Edited by Belethorn on January 3, 2017 3:00PM
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