Should ZoS take a side in the PVP vs PVE debates?

Dev

Currently there is a heated debate between PVE players and PVP. Regardless of which side your on, the animosity levels are way too high for a game.

So a simple question: Should ZoS get involved and separate the two sides for the good of everyone, or continue to sit quietly as their customer base tears itself apart?

dday3six

What is the point of this?

Hateanthem

I've played games where the two were pretty seperate, and the same kind of animosity between the two player groups was still there.

Just let it be.

Prof_Bawbag

Aye, that would make perfect sense. I suspect like any legit dev/business and regardless of how we the players perceive things to be, they will actually take pride in all the aspects of their product.

FLuFFyxMuFFiN

Yes ZOS should totally start picking sides and *** off the other side. /s

Danksta

Or they could all but put an end to the feud and balance PvE and PvP SEPAPATELY!!!

If they did that then PvE'ers couldn't care less when PvP'ers call for nerfs to destro ult or proc sets. But I guess that just makes too much sense.

kongkim

So stupid poll that i dont even vote.

Dev

Yes, ZoS should do something before both sides burn out and quit.

dday3six wrote: »

What is the point of this?

To show ZoS where we at at.

It is a simple question of: Should they do something/nothing/i dont know.

Kendaric

The answer is: They can't pick a side without losing the other, which is something they can't afford.

dday3six

Dev wrote: »

dday3six wrote: »

What is the point of this?

To show ZoS where we at at.

It is a simple question of: Should they do something/nothing/i dont know.

There's nothing they can do so it's pointless posturing. You're naive if you think PVE vs PVP or A vs B is not a reality for any game that allows players to divide themselves in to groups.

alephthiago

First - The situation you describe here simply does not exist. We are all fine, im logged right now and people are having fun and giggles in zone chat.
Second - JUST STOP, this is embarassing.

elias.stormneb18_ESO

I have seen many biased polls on this forum, but this one truly takes the prize. Congratulations!

attackjet

Trust me I know the devs better then any one. I practically made this game. Trust me they like pvp trust me.

Dev

Yes, ZoS should do something before both sides burn out and quit.

elias.stormneb18_ESO wrote: »

I have seen many biased polls on this forum, but this one truly takes the prize. Congratulations!

How is do something/nothing/dont know biased? You have two groups who have hatred for the other, and the company does nothing. In the end, both sides will lose out.

MasterSpatula

Seriously, is anyone on this forum capable of using the poll feature for anything other than belittling strawman attacks on those who disagree with them?

starkerealm

There's no, "I just want to watch the world burn," option? I'm disappointed.

alexkdd99

Your poll is not worth answering. They should just close threads that get to heated. It is a stupid argument anyways.

alephthiago

Dev wrote: »

elias.stormneb18_ESO wrote: »

I have seen many biased polls on this forum, but this one truly takes the prize. Congratulations!

How is do something/nothing/dont know biased? You have two groups who have hatred for the other, and the company does nothing. In the end, both sides will lose out.

DUDE WTF?
No one hates anyone just for playing more pvp or pve, my guild itself keeps both type of players.
Stop making things up.

Osteos

alephthiago wrote: »

Dev wrote: »

elias.stormneb18_ESO wrote: »

I have seen many biased polls on this forum, but this one truly takes the prize. Congratulations!

How is do something/nothing/dont know biased? You have two groups who have hatred for the other, and the company does nothing. In the end, both sides will lose out.

DUDE WTF?
No one hates anyone just for playing more pvp or pve, my guild itself keeps both type of players.
Stop making things up.

This ^ the only hate is from a few drama mamas on the forums.

EldritchPenguin

I think you are vastly overestimating the animosity between PvE and PvP players. Sure, there is a little tension, but that's mostly related to balance changes, since what balance changes affect one also affect the other. But it's not a gigantic, playerbase-wide all-out brawl that's somehow destroying the game.

Recremen

There's a heated debate between PvE and PvP players? Where? About what? I'm pretty sure that most players enjoy both parts of content so this sounds fake to me. :-x

Derra

Personally i have a problem with idiots on either side of a made up debate of pve vs pvp.

Everyone taking a side is automatically awarded.

TequilaFire

Sad that we respond to this and give him the post counts he is looking for.
Myself included.

starkerealm

Recremen wrote: »

There's a heated debate between PvE and PvP players? Where? About what? I'm pretty sure that most players enjoy both parts of content so this sounds fake to me. :-x

You can get some animosity going from certain members of the community directed at one group or the other. I wouldn't go so far as to say it's an actual schism though. Just, some individuals are bugnuts.

Recremen

starkerealm wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

There's a heated debate between PvE and PvP players? Where? About what? I'm pretty sure that most players enjoy both parts of content so this sounds fake to me. :-x

You can get some animosity going from certain members of the community directed at one group or the other. I wouldn't go so far as to say it's an actual schism though. Just, some individuals are bugnuts.

Yeah that's fair, I didn't mean to imply that there are no loose cannons flying around and firing hot lead, more that these tend to be isolated incidents rather than any kind of battle between warring tribes.

BigBragg

I play Elder Scrolls Online, I run around doing fun, and dumb things with other gamers. I don't get this us versus them that creeps around these forums.

Tandor

There's no heated debate about PvP/PvE that I'm aware of, but as pointless threads go this one should certainly be wiped.

Malamar1229

There shouldnt even be a debate period. This how you fix one without breaking the other. Let me use Hardened Ward as an example:

"ability text here....shield for 20 seconds. This duration is reduced to 6 seconds in PvP"

PvP is restricted to Cyrodiil, IC, and duels. so code your *** to have one effect in those zones, and the other effect in PvE.

Didnt WoW do this?

EldritchPenguin

Tandor wrote: »

There's no heated debate about PvP/PvE that I'm aware of, but as pointless threads go this one should certainly be wiped.

I'm pretty sure that the OP is trying to turn this thread into a self-fulfilling prophesy by inspiring tension between the PvE and PvP sides of the playerbase in this thread.

Doctordarkspawn

Yes, ZoS should do something before both sides burn out and quit.

Simple terms:

The PVE people dont wanna PVP for vigor or caltrops and their not doing PVP for the single player quests.

The PVP people arrent doing dungeons for any other reason than undaunted level and likely never do dungeons again after.

The people who do both will do both reguardless of what changes occur.

It only makes everyones lives better to put these two in seperate boxes.

Rohamad_Ali

I wish sometimes I knew what in oblivion is going on .