Cyrodiil PVE Instance

Dev

I would like to see it happen.

it is really easy to implement since they had plenty of instances for cyrodil before. All you have to do is make a requirement that to enter 'AD-Cyrodil' you have to be AD, and the rest takes care of itself.

There is no real reason not to have the option, so why not. There is open world PVP via duels, so a PVE cyrodil shouldnt be too out of line.

UppGRAYxDD

Build an 80k sunsheild trollplar, everyone will leave you alone...

Smitch_59

Not sure how a PVE-instanced Cyrodiil would harm PVPers. PVPers could still go to the normal PVP Cyrodiil and kill each other as much as they want.

It would be nice but I can't see it ever happening.

Ankael07

If pvp'ers want to pve (trials,vet dungeons, arenas) they will have to learn the mechanics of each , practice and get better with time. Why is it so hard for you to at least learn the meta and come to Cyrodiil prepared?

Leandor

How about a quest that bestowes all skyshards, lorebooks and discovery XP in cyrodiil as the quest reward and its task is to travel to all three faction capitals and /yell "I don't like PvP so hand me this stuff because I am entitled" for 15 minutes each?

Thealteregoroman

Aaaannnnndd who is gonna get mad and stop playing ESO if they do have a Cyrodil open for people that just want to explore?

With the inclusion of Monster sets being sold in PVP......

Duels being a part of PVE.......

Yall really think that they wont do a "Cyrodil free explore" option?

YALL REALLY THINK THEY WONT DO A CYRODIL FREE ROAM INSTANCE for the LARGE solo players base of this game?

Where there is smoke, there is fire yall get ready........

Yall forgot about the Role Player house update coming in Feb........

In GTA 5 in multiplayer they have a mode where you cannot be killed by other players......which allows them to do the quests there without getting ganked........

I would just disable being able to become emperor and gaining ANY AP while in the Cyrodil Free Roam instance.......

We will PROB get that Cyrodil free instance and we will ALL prob still play this game.

Bitter as the elixir may be, we will still drink it, and learn to love it over time.

THEDKEXPERIENCE

Thealteregoroman wrote: »

Aaaannnnndd who is gonna get mad and stop playing ESO if they do have a Cyrodil open for people that just want to explore?

With the inclusion of Monster sets being sold in PVP......

Duels being a part of PVE.......

Yall really think that they wont do a "Cyrodil free explore" option?

YALL REALLY THINK THEY WONT DO A CYRODIL FREE ROAM INSTANCE for the LARGE solo players base of this game?

Where there is smoke, there is fire yall get ready........

Yall forgot about the Role Player house update coming in Feb........

In GTA 5 in multiplayer they have a mode where you cannot be killed by other players......which allows them to do the quests there without getting ganked........

I would just disable being able to become emperor and gaining ANY AP while in the Cyrodil Free Roam instance.......

We will PROB get that Cyrodil free instance and we will ALL prob still play this game.

Bitter as the elixir may be, we will still drink it, and learn to love it over time.

GTAV passive mode is the most abused mode in virtually any game ever created. Yeah, you can't be killed or attacked. Sure. You can also park a car in front of a store while your buddy shoots a rocket launcher into a guy trying on a pair of jeans.

If you think Cyrodiil is bad now, the trolling with a passive mode would be infinitely worse. Every tank would just put on passive and laugh as their buddies behind them get free shots at you. And if it's not that, they will think of something twenty times worse.

At this point I don't even care if you get your own map to hold hands in while fighting CP160 wolves. Just keep passive mode away from Cyrodiil.

Korah_Eaglecry

Tryxus wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

It's not that hard to get everything in Cyrodiil, why are people so afraid of dying in a game?

Cause it can be a pain to move around the map, especially when your alliance doesn't have many keeps

@OP, Cyrodiil = PvP-land and it should stay that way

So join a buff server where your Alliance is the dominate presence. Problem solved. Next.

Narvuntien

The risk is part of the fun...

There is a delve I got most of the way though then got murdered that is in the far corner away from where my allance is most of the time it will take me ages to get back there perhaps months.

Cryodil does feel like a war zone and when you go digging around in PVE you feel like you have gone AWOL when your team needs you but at the same time you can find the enemy unexpected whille behind enemy lines or you have to team up to go digging back there in a spec ops squad.

All my PVP solo kills have been people talking to NPCs :P. I am terrible I really need to switch from TF to Azura's star I will next month probably.

SHADOW2KK

Right because there is not enough PvE zones OP...

Plus every slot in PvP taken up by players, should be for PvP players in the main imo

Valethar

JD2013 wrote: »

I'd rather them focus elsewhere than doing that to appease a minority.

Oh, there's some irony in that one. LOL

Thundertalon

OP, if you're looking to explore/do delves and quests, just go to an underpopulated campaign like Haderus, especially when it's not peak hours. I managed to do all the quests, dolmens and delves and only got killed by people maybe 2-3 times (and those were probably avoidable).

Also, @JD2013 and anyone else who's interested: I'm up for doing any of the IC quests if you'd like. I'm currently stuck on the Arena quest, but I can help with previous ones as well if you'd like. Just let me know, game name is same as my forum name (just with @)

Knootewoot

Sure, we can have a PvE cyrodill

If I can have all trials and dungeons without mobs and open world PvP server and free maelstrom weapons for PvP'ers

JKorr

Biro123 wrote: »

JKorr wrote: »

. Someone from a different faction waited until I finished the daedra fight, unstealthed, and killed me. Which wasn't hard. When I saw it was a player, I sheathed my weapon. Second try to get to the crafting station; again, the same player attacked from stealth after I finished a fight with npcs, and killed me. Again, I sheathed my weapon. Third try; repeat of the same thing. Fourth try, they finally decided they were tired of killing me, or realized I had no telvar stones. They did attack, but didn't kill me and turned away and I made it into the crafting station. Please explain how exactly that was fun, because I really, really don't get it.

I suspect it wasn't fun - which is why he stopped once he realised there was no fight. In fact, that he waited for you to finish fighting the mobs each time before attacking you shows that this guy was looking for a contest - and not just a faceroll.

This wasn't someone trying to give you a bad day - it was just someone looking for a PVP fight in a PVP zone.. he probably didn't realise it was the same person the 2nd time.. If ganking, I suspect the kill was so quick, he probably didn't realise you weren't trying to fight back (as opposed to just being slow to react/cc'd) until after a few times - after which he stopped..

Can't blame this guy for anything - in fact I'd say he was being really considerate!

Really? So his attacking from stealth the instant I finished the fight, when my health/stamina/magic was low due to the fight was because he was looking for a challenge? Gee. Interesting interpretation. Now, if he would have helped in the daedra fight so my resources weren't really low and then attacked without stealthing, I might believe that. Sorry, I've never really seen behavior by pvp players that indicate they're looking for a challenge or want a real fight. It might be that I keep running into the exceptions, but so far I've never run into any pvp players in Cyrodiil that make the pvp seem the slightest bit interesting or fun.

I don't blame him. I just consider him the typical kill anything that moves, the easier the kill the better pvp player. And one of the reasons I don't do pvp. :shrug:

Knootewoot

Thealteregoroman wrote: »

Aaaannnnndd who is gonna get mad and stop playing ESO if they do have a Cyrodil open for people that just want to explore?

With the inclusion of Monster sets being sold in PVP......

Duels being a part of PVE.......

Yall really think that they wont do a "Cyrodil free explore" option?

YALL REALLY THINK THEY WONT DO A CYRODIL FREE ROAM INSTANCE for the LARGE solo players base of this game?

Where there is smoke, there is fire yall get ready........

Yall forgot about the Role Player house update coming in Feb........

In GTA 5 in multiplayer they have a mode where you cannot be killed by other players......which allows them to do the quests there without getting ganked........

I would just disable being able to become emperor and gaining ANY AP while in the Cyrodil Free Roam instance.......

We will PROB get that Cyrodil free instance and we will ALL prob still play this game.

Bitter as the elixir may be, we will still drink it, and learn to love it over time.

As soon as a PvP free Cyrodill is launched, the next will be topics on forum:

- Cyrodill it to big and boring. Please add quests and props
- There are keeps and outposts with no function. Petition to remove them
- Omg there is so much lag in cyrodill
- Please add PvP to Cyrodill. There is nothing else to do

Gilvoth

you allow open world pvp for us and we will allow you a non pvp Cryodiil.
all we have to do is add a "flagg" option in our options menu, if you click "pvp" in the options menu, then you can attack and be attacked in pvp* and if you choose the "unflagg" option it will then turn OFF your ability to be attacked and you cannot attack others.
it's a win win for everyone.

Tandor

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

you allow open world pvp for us and we will allow you a non pvp Cryodiil.
all we have to do is add a "flagg" option in our options menu, if you click "pvp" in the options menu, then you can attack and be attacked in pvp* and if you choose the "unflagg" option it will then turn OFF your ability to be attacked and you cannot attack others.
it's a win win for everyone.

Great, let's have it straightaway then. You've already got open world PvP by way of dueling, all that is left is for your "unflag" option to be added to PvP in Cyrodiil.

Of course, you might say that dueling in the open world is "PvP-lite", but then the PvE content in Cyrodiil is also "PvE-lite", so it seems a fair exchange.

JKorr

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

you allow open world pvp for us and we will allow you a non pvp Cryodiil.
all we have to do is add a "flagg" option in our options menu, if you click "pvp" in the options menu, then you can attack and be attacked in pvp* and if you choose the "unflagg" option it will then turn OFF your ability to be attacked and you cannot attack others.
it's a win win for everyone.

um...no. Separate instances/separate server, yes. I've said many times I'd be happy to post in support for this. Just about any other possible way to do it would open up ways for people to abuse it. PVP and PVE shouldn't be in the same zones. Even dueling has been used to grief and cause problems for people. Dueling in banks and areas where pve/non-duelers have to go to carry out game business is an example.

You get an open world pvp all the time everywhere instance/server. PVE players would get a pve instance/server. No more pve players screwing up the population caps for pvp players. PVE players get a chance to explore/do pve stuff without the pvp players interfering. That is a win-win for everyone. Where keeping things separate means no one will find ways to abuse the separate intentions.

I still have the impression that the reason that PVP players don't want a separate instance/server because they would lose the chances to gank the pve players, or they are afraid that pvp isn't really as popular as they want everyone to believe, and that many pvp players would leave for the pve only instance if they had the opportunity to do so and the pvp only instance/server would be empty.

Gedalya

jarydf wrote: »

Can we please have a Cyrodiil PVE Instance. I would like to go there on a tourist holiday and wander around doing the PVE content solo in the big lovely spacious map without being ganked or zerged. Thank you. The quiet uninhabited parts of Cyro feel the most like an Elder Scrolls / Fallout game to me.

No, but thank you for input. Also, I really enjoy the PvE "qualities" of Cyrodiil as they stand and I would be anxious of any changes that might impact that. Although I would like to see the wood land critters return (one can only hope).

Tandor

Gedalya wrote: »

jarydf wrote: »

Can we please have a Cyrodiil PVE Instance. I would like to go there on a tourist holiday and wander around doing the PVE content solo in the big lovely spacious map without being ganked or zerged. Thank you. The quiet uninhabited parts of Cyro feel the most like an Elder Scrolls / Fallout game to me.

No, but thank you for input. Also, I really enjoy the PvE "qualities" of Cyrodiil as they stand and I would be anxious of any changes that might impact that. Although I would like to see the wood land critters return (one can only hope).

Bear in mind that if such a proposal were implemented it would still be open to those who enjoy the challenge and risk involved in doing the PvE content under the threat of PvP to continue as before. There would be nothing to stop such players entering PvP campaigns as now.

Ulfgarde

jarydf wrote: »

Can we please have a Cyrodiil PVE Instance. I would like to go there on a tourist holiday and wander around doing the PVE content solo in the big lovely spacious map without being ganked or zerged. Thank you. The quiet uninhabited parts of Cyro feel the most like an Elder Scrolls / Fallout game to me.

Would be better if there were separate servers for IC. But for PvE? Jesus...

Don't act like you need yourself carried to do the simple, mindless quests in the 5 towns. They take like no time, and you can easily go on an empty campaign to finish them. Cyrodiil was made for PvP in its design. If not, they would have made a PvE zone a loooong time ago.

NeillMcAttack

Some campaigns currently are PvE only spaces!! I see no issue here.

Elladan_Eloheimik

jarydf wrote: »

Can we please have a Cyrodiil PVE Instance. I would like to go there on a tourist holiday and wander around doing the PVE content solo in the big lovely spacious map without being ganked or zerged. Thank you. The quiet uninhabited parts of Cyro feel the most like an Elder Scrolls / Fallout game to me.

Yes. It's called Azura's Star campaign. You may explore to your heart's content without being killed and find all the skyshards and lorebooks. Except those behind enemy gates.

XDragonDoomX

I can hear the screams of rage now, should a few of the larger PVE guilds take to Cyro to do purely PVE stuff and severely limiting / filling the PVP slots - especially if it was arranged across all 3 alliances on the same campaign...

Gedalya

I really wish people would stop with this request for a PvE instance of Cyrodiil; if you want a PvE instance of Cyrodiil, grab a copy of Oblivion on Steam (it goes on sale all the time). One of the best games you can get and a bargain for under $20.

XDragonDoomX

Gedalya wrote: »

I really wish people would stop with this request for a PvE instance of Cyrodiil; if you want a PvE instance of Cyrodiil, grab a copy of Oblivion on Steam (it goes on sale all the time). One of the best games you can get and a bargain for under $20.

The problem is - there is a fair amount of pve content in a pvp area. There are about 45 quests, 46 skyshards, about 18 delves and numerous books, along with fishing achievements - and that's not even going into the IC/Sewers areas

Thealteregoroman

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Thealteregoroman wrote: »

Aaaannnnndd who is gonna get mad and stop playing ESO if they do have a Cyrodil open for people that just want to explore?

With the inclusion of Monster sets being sold in PVP......

Duels being a part of PVE.......

Yall really think that they wont do a "Cyrodil free explore" option?

YALL REALLY THINK THEY WONT DO A CYRODIL FREE ROAM INSTANCE for the LARGE solo players base of this game?

Where there is smoke, there is fire yall get ready........

Yall forgot about the Role Player house update coming in Feb........

In GTA 5 in multiplayer they have a mode where you cannot be killed by other players......which allows them to do the quests there without getting ganked........

I would just disable being able to become emperor and gaining ANY AP while in the Cyrodil Free Roam instance.......

We will PROB get that Cyrodil free instance and we will ALL prob still play this game.

Bitter as the elixir may be, we will still drink it, and learn to love it over time.

GTAV passive mode is the most abused mode in virtually any game ever created. Yeah, you can't be killed or attacked. Sure. You can also park a car in front of a store while your buddy shoots a rocket launcher into a guy trying on a pair of jeans.

If you think Cyrodiil is bad now, the trolling with a passive mode would be infinitely worse. Every tank would just put on passive and laugh as their buddies behind them get free shots at you. And if it's not that, they will think of something twenty times worse.

At this point I don't even care if you get your own map to hold hands in while fighting CP160 wolves. Just keep passive mode away from Cyrodiil.

I was not suggesting passive mode for cryodil........I was suggesting that how things are going don't be suprised if they do make a instanced Cyrodil for the people that just want to explore and NOT have pvp....

Thealteregoroman

Knootewoot wrote: »

Thealteregoroman wrote: »

Aaaannnnndd who is gonna get mad and stop playing ESO if they do have a Cyrodil open for people that just want to explore?

With the inclusion of Monster sets being sold in PVP......

Duels being a part of PVE.......

Yall really think that they wont do a "Cyrodil free explore" option?

YALL REALLY THINK THEY WONT DO A CYRODIL FREE ROAM INSTANCE for the LARGE solo players base of this game?

Where there is smoke, there is fire yall get ready........

Yall forgot about the Role Player house update coming in Feb........

In GTA 5 in multiplayer they have a mode where you cannot be killed by other players......which allows them to do the quests there without getting ganked........

I would just disable being able to become emperor and gaining ANY AP while in the Cyrodil Free Roam instance.......

We will PROB get that Cyrodil free instance and we will ALL prob still play this game.

Bitter as the elixir may be, we will still drink it, and learn to love it over time.

As soon as a PvP free Cyrodill is launched, the next will be topics on forum:

- Cyrodill it to big and boring. Please add quests and props
- There are keeps and outposts with no function. Petition to remove them
- Omg there is so much lag in cyrodill
- Please add PvP to Cyrodill. There is nothing else to do

k.....guess we will see what will end up happening....but you and I know the writing is already on the wall.

idk

Unsent.Soul wrote: »

Will never happen.

And shouldn't.

If was designed to be an open PvP area and intended to have risks doing the PvR portion. Heck, it's part of the fun when running quests in Cyro.

Did it on one character. Hardly saw any action but did come across a player here and there.

Gedalya

XDragonDoomX wrote: »

The problem is - there is a fair amount of pve content in a pvp area. There are about 45 quests, 46 skyshards, about 18 delves and numerous books, along with fishing achievements - and that's not even going into the IC/Sewers areas

I've been playing since beta and I have gone though Cyrodiil completely on several characters; I get it that being killed while you quest can be frustrating and tedious. But the solution isn't to fork a separate instance of the zone. Am I to take this would necessarily include PvE instance of the Imperial City too as it has PvE quests? And on that not, any additional PvP/PvE zone additions; there is more to the broader Cyrodiil landscape we don't already get in ESO.