Pvp magika sorc what kinda builds are op right now

Lord-Otto

Wait, are you talking about Burning Spellweave in PvP? How in the world are you gonna proc it? And no sustain? You're talking PvE, right?
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oTheTownDrunk

oTheTownDrunk wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

oTheTownDrunk wrote: »

5/1/1 - 5 piece Kragernac Hope , 2 Infernal Guardian, and 3 willpower arcane with Maelstrom Staves. Simply and very very good.

Im trying to finish my Burning Spell Weave light Impen set but havent got all the pieces yet. Once completed im gonna try out 3 willpower, 5 BSW, 2 IG. Add up all the numbers and these 2 setups work better than throwing lich in the equation.

The BSW setup looks amazing actually. No sustain, but the damage should be incredible. It would almost be worth the potions it will take to keep it running.

It might be easier to buy a sharpened willpower destro than farming a BSW one though.

Im actually going to run VMA Staff, 5 Piece BSW armor, 3 piece willpower jewelry, 2 Infernal Guardian so no need for farming the staves ;-). I may run with 2 piece Viscous death sharpened swords on front bar for even more destruction!

And im switching to Atronach if need be im using Thief now.

Hind sight maybe for duel wield id switch out BSW for Viscous Death so I don't have to proc anything.

oTheTownDrunk

Lord-Otto wrote: »

Wait, are you talking about Burning Spellweave in PvP? How in the world are you gonna proc it? And no sustain? You're talking PvE, right?
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Yeah no im going to have to use my Destro staff for it in PvP, and viscous death if I wanna go Duel Wield.

Lexxypwns

LegendaryMage wrote: »

IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »

LegendaryMage wrote: »

The only 'OP' sorc build as of now, is a totally min-maxed magicka build, courtesy of necropotence and blue maxmag-regen food buff. Everything else is pretty much down to earth, except that.

You don't need pets to min max your magicka.

I'm sitting at 53k at the moment and I'm not even done with the build. I don't see how a usable pvp build can get this high. Granted, pet builds are almost next to useless in pvp, but it's still interesting to see what's possible.

My mageblade is higher than that and he has no access to bound aegis

Minalan

Lexxypwns wrote: »

LegendaryMage wrote: »

IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »

LegendaryMage wrote: »

The only 'OP' sorc build as of now, is a totally min-maxed magicka build, courtesy of necropotence and blue maxmag-regen food buff. Everything else is pretty much down to earth, except that.

You don't need pets to min max your magicka.

I'm sitting at 53k at the moment and I'm not even done with the build. I don't see how a usable pvp build can get this high. Granted, pet builds are almost next to useless in pvp, but it's still interesting to see what's possible.

My mageblade is higher than that and he has no access to bound aegis

You don't need bound aegis. Magblade gets 8% max magicka bonus as a PASSIVE.

*jealousy triggered*

LegendaryMage

Lexxypwns wrote: »

LegendaryMage wrote: »

IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »

LegendaryMage wrote: »

The only 'OP' sorc build as of now, is a totally min-maxed magicka build, courtesy of necropotence and blue maxmag-regen food buff. Everything else is pretty much down to earth, except that.

You don't need pets to min max your magicka.

I'm sitting at 53k at the moment and I'm not even done with the build. I don't see how a usable pvp build can get this high. Granted, pet builds are almost next to useless in pvp, but it's still interesting to see what's possible.

My mageblade is higher than that and he has no access to bound aegis

I'm not using bound aegies.

darthsithis

Lich warlock and maelstrom destro resto for duels with dark deal for stam and rune prison for humiliating aoe victories.

You can hear people who use 5 viper/black rose and tremor scale start hitting buttons pretty hard on the mic...

"Why can't he just get cc'd and die :O"

cschwingeb14_ESO

Skip dark deal and just use Amberplasm (unless you are using dark deal to have enough stam to block) instead of warlock.

Such an under utilized set.... But very hard to get weapons in Amberplasm. Super easy to solo first boss farm the small pieces though, once you get your jewelry

Waffennacht

@darthsithis hey that's the exact build some proc user was yelling at me about! He thought that's what I wearing and he WAS NOT PLEASED at all with it.

Maybe that set up has a reputation now lol.

What he was seeing however was my mag sorc using Dark Conversion (I just eat my mag away, even with 2k regen, and a simple stam pot is all I need to manage stam pool with CCs) he just assumed it was dark deal + that set up for mad resources.

mad1max954

I'm currently refitting my sorc and before I spend all my resources, I thought I'd check to get everyone's thoughts. I was considering going tbs X 5, Necro x 5 (3 jewellery with spell damage) 1 kena. All divines and then running mage and shadow boons. Using pet(s)?!

I'm not sure what the tooltips will look like but it should give me a high magicka pool and decent enough spell power with crit damage, though granted my crit chance won't be that strong.

What's everyone's thoughts?

Lord-Otto

TBS isn't too great in PvP, as crit damage is too easily mitigated. Julianos and Spinner are better options, I think.
Necropotence with pets... Hm, pets are somewhat unreliable, especially on console. Typically, you rarely see them, and that's for a reason. Gotta see yourself if they work for you.
Sustain with two damage sets is pretty low. You might run into problems against multiple or good players, and definitely struggle when poisoned. Lich is really good, highly recommend it.
All divines, following the thought TBS is eh, is... questionable. These days, shields drop easily and you might want impen. On the other hand, you'll still get hit by 12k Incaps and 10k Wrecking Blows, so pfff!
In short, if pets are a must, 5 Necro, 5 Lich, 2 Infernal Guardian. All impen or big pieces infused.

mad1max954

Lord-Otto wrote: »

TBS isn't too great in PvP, as crit damage is too easily mitigated. Julianos and Spinner are better options, I think.
Necropotence with pets... Hm, pets are somewhat unreliable, especially on console. Typically, you rarely see them, and that's for a reason. Gotta see yourself if they work for you.
Sustain with two damage sets is pretty low. You might run into problems against multiple or good players, and definitely struggle when poisoned. Lich is really good, highly recommend it.
All divines, following the thought TBS is eh, is... questionable. These days, shields drop easily and you might want impen. On the other hand, you'll still get hit by 12k Incaps and 10k Wrecking Blows, so pfff!
In short, if pets are a must, 5 Necro, 5 Lich, 2 Infernal Guardian. All impen or big pieces infused.

Cheers for that. I was initially thinking spinners and have started farming it, but then I thought they might be something in stacking a massive magicka pool = strong shields and burst. Granted recovery will blow.

Am currently running seducer, kena, turog pact and willpower. recovery is decent but I hit like a fly!

Lord-Otto

Yup, if you wanna burst someone down in a second, better go stamina! xD
Spinner's is especially good against heavy armor, but also if you wanna use Elfborn CP. Julianos is slightly better against shield users, I would say. Both are good options and typically outperform Willpower+Torug. (^_-)
But at any rate, cracking Heavy Armor users is difficult these days. I would worry less about that and focus more on your sustain, your defense and utility for now. Sorcs have pretty good group utility, Familiar stun, for example.

aLi3nZ

I have trailed pretty much every set avalible searching for good builds. A lot of gold spent and farming done。pretty sure this is the most op sorc build available. Bsw is easy to proc with Infernal guardian and inferno staff light attacks + crushing shock weaving. I use it for both pve and Pvp just with the cheap standard magika potions. Infernal guardian is a bit op. I often see it hitting for 4.5k x3 crits on enemies with this buld and it's good aoe damage.

My fav move for both pve and pvp is buffing up and running into a group or boss with eye of the storm. Obviously bsw is gonna be Insta proc'd from the fire storm and things just melt.

can be pretty easy to insta melt some players as well。even good ones if you catch them off guard. .

Infernal guardian x2
Burning Spell Weave x5
Clever alchemist x5

Mundus: Astronaunch
Food: witches brew for max magika and recovery
This drink works particularly well with this combination of sets since clever alchemist provides extra health bonus, you don't need any more from food.
Magika recovery = 1800
Spell damage is around 4500 buffed
Max magika 40k - with inner light

Biro123

Just that sharpened BSW inferno staff is the killer for that... I've only ever found lightning infused then got too bored of the farming.

Kind of makes me think that for destro/resto, you're kind of stuck with 5/3/2/1 setups.. (3willpower, 2 monster, 1 random crafted weapons) to get a sharpened weapon of the type you want. I just hate having that one piece without a set bonus though, it just seems.. inefficient. At least with DW, you could go 5/5/2 (5 crafted including 2 sharpened swords/5 drop set/2 monster).

I gave up farming stuff like sharpened spinners/sharpened BSW/sharpened willpower a while ago...

I just hate that ZoS are pushing us all into very similar 5/3/2/1 setups apart from the lucky(or really, really persistent!) few with the right drops who can do 5/5/2. Sorcs have always been really limited in skill-choice.. now it will be the same for gear too.

mad1max954

aLi3nZ wrote: »

Infernal guardian x2
Burning Spell Weave x5
Clever alchemist x5

Mundus: Astronaunch
Food: witches brew for max magika and recovery
This drink works particularly well with this combination of sets since clever alchemist provides extra health bonus, you don't need any more from food.
Magika recovery = 1800
Spell damage is around 4500 buffed
Max magika 40k - with inner light

4500 damage is sick. Presume your dw though with 2,5,5. How do you get bsw to proc though?

Presume you have tried pure crit builds like Julianos and mothers sorrow? How did you find that?

jroc699_burr

bsw procs off of ig its flame dmg i like that setup for my magika templar i am still farming BSW i was usign BSW and Vd but it weas so hard procing everything off and then trying to attack lol so i went back to julianos wiill power and dw and destro i might doo julianos vd and ig see how that goes

Waffennacht

mad1max954 wrote: »

aLi3nZ wrote: »

Infernal guardian x2
Burning Spell Weave x5
Clever alchemist x5

Mundus: Astronaunch
Food: witches brew for max magika and recovery
This drink works particularly well with this combination of sets since clever alchemist provides extra health bonus, you don't need any more from food.
Magika recovery = 1800
Spell damage is around 4500 buffed
Max magika 40k - with inner light

4500 damage is sick. Presume your dw though with 2,5,5. How do you get bsw to proc though?

Presume you have tried pure crit builds like Julianos and mothers sorrow? How did you find that?

That 4600 spell dmg is on a staff

DW would be closer to 4800

@aLi3nZ and I run the same gear, the guide for my version is in my sig, the Daedric Shepherd

Waffennacht

Double post somehow

jroc699_burr

MAN the frags curse and overload or eotf would be hectic i havent been able to get up there yet but i dont wanna use clever cause im not good at timing my bursts im practicing with it on the night blade rn

Minalan

There are builds that brainlessly maximize damage stats. And those work OK, until you meet someone who rolls your build because it HAS shortcomings and counters.

Look into @Waffennacht build IMO. I like builds where all of the parts, skills, and passives fit together and make the whole build stronger.

There is more to this game than max DPS stats. When you meet a max Magicka or spell damage insane number stacker, you can outlast or outright beat them because:

* They didn't bother to stack any stamina regen and can't block your next meteor.
* They didn't stack enough magicka regen, and can't maintain their shield stack and stay offensive.
* Their only heal is that one ward, and someone else on their team keeps getting it.
* They're crutching on broken vampire passives, and that fire damage and dawnbreaker takes them out.
* They didn't put on any impen, and get one shot with shields down.

aLi3nZ

Yep op build there, check it out: it's a great build https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/245479/the-ultimate-daedric-shepherd-excited-for-update-13#latest

I just like to play how I want and generally that means no pets for most situations so my cp points and and skill slots are different. Stats are pretty much the same though.