Can be sorcerer main heal?

jgg1988barcelonab16_ESO

Hello guys! I started this game after playing liek 1 month at the release date. Now is pretty changed and looks great.
I have a templar level 6. The thing is I love magic atacks summons, but i love healing too. ( talking for PvE ) I saw some sorcerer heal build but I dont know how limited they are. I dont have in mind do raids in end game but I'll do hardest dungeons, so if I play sorc heal will be an slot for me in the party? So, is sorc healer a good choice? Also just curious if i can have more than 1 build in the same character.

Thanks

bebynnag

Sorceror healing is more than adequate for normal dungeons, with a resto staff & once you have it unlocked your twighlight (which you can morph to give you a strong heal)

Once you get to know your sorceror and have leveled up a bit you will be able to complete vet dungeons (something you dont need to be concerned with for a while yet)
once you reach level 50 you will begin earning Champion Points and will be able to run vet dungeons, the difficulty level is notably higher so it is recomended you join a guild with people who would be happy to help you run the content & learn the mechanics

since max magic will increase the strength of your healing & damage yes it is possible to have 1 character deal damage & heal, although you may decide (like many others) to have 2 sets of armour, one that buffs your damage & one that buffs your support/healing capeabilities

jgg1988barcelonab16_ESO

puffytheslayer wrote: »

Sorceror healing is more than adequate for normal dungeons, with a resto staff & once you have it unlocked your twighlight (which you can morph to give you a strong heal)

Once you get to know your sorceror and have leveled up a bit you will be able to complete vet dungeons (something you dont need to be concerned with for a while yet)
once you reach level 50 you will begin earning Champion Points and will be able to run vet dungeons, the difficulty level is notably higher so it is recomended you join a guild with people who would be happy to help you run the content & learn the mechanics

since max magic will increase the strength of your healing & damage yes it is possible to have 1 character deal damage & heal, although you may decide (like many others) to have 2 sets of armour, one that buffs your damage & one that buffs your support/healing capeabilities

thank u so much

Lukums1

My sorc does everything.

With Spell Power Cure Set / Worm - can heal trials on my sorc
With Spell Power Cure Set / Sanctuary - can heal all vet dungeons apart from Ruins/ICP which is mainly due to distance on some fights.

It's super possible with correct gear setups.

AverageJo3Gam3r

Like other posters said, totally possible. Only issue you'll have is with ignorant players who think you can only heal on a Templar. If you PUG be prepared to be kicked out of a group every now and then because of this attitude.

bebynnag

AverageJo3Gam3r wrote: »

Like other posters said, totally possible. Only issue you'll have is with ignorant players who think you can only heal on a Templar. If you PUG be prepared to be kicked out of a group every now and then because of this attitude.

One of the reasons i suggested join a guild, it doesnt matter how strong a healer you are, there no heal for PUG mentality

Thraben

jgg1988barcelonab16_ESO wrote: »

Hello guys! I started this game after playing liek 1 month at the release date. Now is pretty changed and looks great.
I have a templar level 6. The thing is I love magic atacks summons, but i love healing too. ( talking for PvE ) I saw some sorcerer heal build but I dont know how limited they are. I dont have in mind do raids in end game but I'll do hardest dungeons, so if I play sorc heal will be an slot for me in the party? So, is sorc healer a good choice? Also just curious if i can have more than 1 build in the same character.

Thanks

Matriach, Vigor, and Barrier are all you need. I only use the resto staff for buffing and magicka restoration.

Our main disadvantage is our lack of stamina restoration for the tank - I´m thus working on the lacklustre Dwemer resto shoulder set. Be sure that you often throw in skills with a synergy, experienced tanks can use any synergy for stam recovery.

CreepyPahuska

@jgg1988barcelonab16_ESO : You can be main-anything with any class. There are a few things you must be aware of though :

- The most popular healing class is the templar because it looks like the "obvious" choice. Thus, you're probably going to have many answers telling you that you'll never be as good as a templar (it's unfortunately always the case on this forum). Truth is, sorcerer is only harder to master, but in the end, you can make it work for any kind of content, just like any other class.
- As others said before me, I strongly advise you to find a guild and/or play with friends. Without that you might encounter lots of closed-minded people who will ruin your game experience.
- Yes you can have multiple builds on the same character. But you should keep them all based on the same ressource (magicka in your case since you're a healer). Some skills morphs choices or champions' points distribution might not be optimal for your secondary build(s) though.


@Thraben : I'm not quite sure to understand why you would put a magicka-based heal and a stamina-based heal on the same build when there are so many good magicka-based heals at our disposal ?
As for the part on the stamina restoration, it's not for the tank. At least it should not be for him. A good tank must be able to manage his ressources on his own, and it's really not difficult. The stamina restoration is mostly for the Stamina DDs, since the less they have to care about their ressource management, the more they can focus on their DPS. The Rkugamz monster set is great, unless your group members aren't smart enough to stand inside of it when it procs. The Master's Restoration staff (preferably in infused trait) is a great source of stamina too, but harder to obtain than the Rkugamz (the best solution is obviously to have both if you wanna specialize into it...)

Shaiba

Short answer to the OP : Yes.

If you like the gameplay of your sorcerer, play with it You can do all the content of the game as a sorcerer healer (same goes for every classes).

You can have more than one build with your char, but be careful to your CP (if they are compatible with both builds, if they're not you'll have to choose what will be your main role and you won't be optimal on your secondary role) and you'll need to change your gear depending on what role you wanna be in your team.

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Matriach, Vigor, [...] are all you need.

First one scales off magicka while vigor don't and costs stamina. Using both is kinda counter-productive.There are better healing abilities (over time) that'll synergise better with a magicka healer build than vigor (e.g. mutagen, healing springs).

If you want to help your team with stamina ressources as a non-templar healer, you can take a look at the Master Restoration Staves (obtained in vDSA). (in addition to synergy (e.g. Liquid Lightning, Orbs)).

AzuraKin

CreepyPahuska wrote: »

@jgg1988barcelonab16_ESO : You can be main-anything with any class. There are a few things you must be aware of though :

- The most popular healing class is the templar because it looks like the "obvious" choice. Thus, you're probably going to have many answers telling you that you'll never be as good as a templar (it's unfortunately always the case on this forum). Truth is, sorcerer is only harder to master, but in the end, you can make it work for any kind of content, just like any other class.
- As others said before me, I strongly advise you to find a guild and/or play with friends. Without that you might encounter lots of closed-minded people who will ruin your game experience.
- Yes you can have multiple builds on the same character. But you should keep them all based on the same ressource (magicka in your case since you're a healer). Some skills morphs choices or champions' points distribution might not be optimal for your secondary build(s) though.


@Thraben : I'm not quite sure to understand why you would put a magicka-based heal and a stamina-based heal on the same build when there are so many good magicka-based heals at our disposal ?
As for the part on the stamina restoration, it's not for the tank. At least it should not be for him. A good tank must be able to manage his ressources on his own, and it's really not difficult. The stamina restoration is mostly for the Stamina DDs, since the less they have to care about their ressource management, the more they can focus on their DPS. The Rkugamz monster set is great, unless your group members aren't smart enough to stand inside of it when it procs. The Master's Restoration staff (preferably in infused trait) is a great source of stamina too, but harder to obtain than the Rkugamz (the best solution is obviously to have both if you wanna specialize into it...)

that is because when it comes to healing, templars are the best.

ranked classes for healing from best to worst:

templar:
nightblade:
sorcerer:
dragonknight:

Mush55

Yes you can , But and it's an annoying But be prepared to be kicked from certain Pug groups because you are not a termplar.

My guild mate has a sorc healer and is damn good and we have no issues running any content with him, but he was kicked out of 3 groups yesterday because he wasn't a templar healer.

Just an heads up op.

Thraben

CreepyPahuska wrote: »

@Thraben : I'm not quite sure to understand why you would put a magicka-based heal and a stamina-based heal on the same build when there are so many good magicka-based heals at our disposal ?
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Simply because all resto staff heals underperform in chaotic combat situations.

Combat Prayer is the only reason to use it unless

a) you want to heal vamps (ward)
b) you want to trigger you Infernal guadrian set (ward)
c) people are disciplined enough not to run away from your healing circles (grand healing)
d) you want to trigger you healing plant shoulder set (regeneration)


Even magicka users can push their vigor up to 2-3k hps (using the troll king´s set) which is enough for almost anything which doesn´t call for a barrier.

Beardimus

I created a Sorc Healer build for similar reasons to you, I missed the Pets from my main leveling days and also wanted to prove that Sorc's can heal.

Problems you face are randoms kicking you from PUG when they see you are a Sorc (annoying elitey behavior) and also potentially how you would provide resources (stamina) back to a wider group for hard / big group content.

Otherwise, the one i'm leveling does everything fine in Normal's and has better DPS from it.

Autolycus

I run with multiple sorc healers in veteran trials and hardmodes, and have done so for many months now.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

Thraben wrote: »

CreepyPahuska wrote: »

@Thraben : I'm not quite sure to understand why you would put a magicka-based heal and a stamina-based heal on the same build when there are so many good magicka-based heals at our disposal ?
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Simply because all resto staff heals underperform in chaotic combat situations.

Combat Prayer is the only reason to use it unless

a) you want to heal vamps (ward)
b) you want to trigger you Infernal guadrian set (ward)
c) people are disciplined enough not to run away from your healing circles (grand healing)
d) you want to trigger you healing plant shoulder set (regeneration)


Even magicka users can push their vigor up to 2-3k hps (using the troll king´s set) which is enough for almost anything which doesn´t call for a barrier.

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Your explanation for vigor is lacking, any healer worth their salt is using spc and another five piece, with kena or a master resto, that is just the way it is, none use either troll King or vigor, which will not be hitting for what you say unless you pump into healing done, when you can pump max magic and spell damage to get 5k ticks of mutagen and still be able to out out decent dps if you need to.

Also unclear is what the difference of healing a vamp verses non vamp is that you need ward for, unless you actually rely on troll King to do your healing via health regen, which would be silly.

cpuScientist

Yes you can heal trials dungeons whatever, with any class. And while yes Templar is the best at the end of the day. They are all viable.

jgg1988barcelonab16_ESO

Omg ty so much guys, lots of answers

ForsakenSin

Socrs can be a good healers with pets restro and also crit surge buffing your self you can throw down some very very impressive heals also you can help with DPS as well overcharge destro ultimate liquid lighting ect.

Its true small minded cookie cutters might kick you out cos they don't understand but join a guild and you will be fine.

I remember long time ago i went to random dungeon can't remember which one and the healer was NB ..right away i got a vote to kick which i declined and let me tell you he was damm good healer and dps.

So go ahead make a sorc healer and you will surprise your self and others just how good they are if you can manage your magica and magica regen good you can be awsome DPS and healer as well no problem.

Thraben

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Your explanation for vigor is lacking, any healer worth their salt is using spc and another five piece, with kena or a master resto, that is just the way it is, none use either troll King or vigor, which will not be hitting for what you say unless you pump into healing done, when you can pump max magic and spell damage to get 5k ticks of mutagen and still be able to out out decent dps if you need to.

Also unclear is what the difference of healing a vamp verses non vamp is that you need ward for, unless you actually rely on troll King to do your healing via health regen, which would be silly.

Well I if you display such an attitude, and if you even don't know why vamps are better healed with bubbles instead of direct healing, I don't see any reason to tell you more. Have fun!

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

Thraben wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Your explanation for vigor is lacking, any healer worth their salt is using spc and another five piece, with kena or a master resto, that is just the way it is, none use either troll King or vigor, which will not be hitting for what you say unless you pump into healing done, when you can pump max magic and spell damage to get 5k ticks of mutagen and still be able to out out decent dps if you need to.

Also unclear is what the difference of healing a vamp verses non vamp is that you need ward for, unless you actually rely on troll King to do your healing via health regen, which would be silly.

Well I if you display such an attitude, and if you even don't know why vamps are better healed with bubbles instead of direct healing, I don't see any reason to tell you more. Have fun!

I have healed everything short of vet maw on my Templar and pretty much all vet dungeons on my sorc, so please tell me why I am wrong. There is nothing special about a vamp that makes regular old heals any less effective on them. The only two things that a vamp has that matters at all to a healer, in PvE, is that they take 25% more fire damage and their health recovery is lowered, though this only matters if you use Troll King, which, as I said, no PvE healer would ever consider to use, for multiple reasons, not the least of which is that the set can not proc SPC.

So again, I am asking nicely bud, please tell me I am wrong and why specifically.