Remove Eye of the Storm NOW!

Kilandros

Can confirm my Stamcersorc Tremscale/Viper/Black Rose almost died to Eye of the Storm once, please nerf.

GreenSoup2HoT

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

Your wasting your Breath OP

I have been telling them for 2 years that PBAOE(Player Based Area Of Effect Skills) are too powerful
In this game

Steel tornado is better then nearly every single target skill in the game from a cost to damage dealt comparison. This is just one example, Pulsar used to be OP becUse of its large range, high damage, and cutting your max health by 10%

Ground target AOE skills are trash in pvp, cost more to cast, deal less damage, and require thought to use.

Hmm let's see casting Liquid Lighting for 3k that deals 2k damage per second(in a small area) vs Steel Tornado that deals 4K upfront damage instantly, does more damage to low health targets, and costs less...i dunno which one I would use (sarcasm)

It took me almost a year to get Bombard changed as everyone was aggravated beyond reproach to not being able to move in Cyrodiil, they fixed that but made it worse in other ways

PBAOE abilities need to have their damage drastically reduced and their cost increased significantly. Ground Target AOE are balanced, they require thought to use, don't deal more damage then most single target abilities upfront like PBAOE skills do

As long as PBAOE skills stay OP the way they have, the stack and spam meta will continue..EOTS is only OP because of its PBAOE component just like Proxy Det, hardly anyone uses Inevitable Det or Elemental Rage because they are not PBAOE.

Simply put ZOS is going to have to put the shovel to PBAOE skills via battlespirit(as not to effect PVE) if they want to have any interesting pvp beyond zerging...some folks may not like this, but it's the truth...I called the Bombard meta before TG ever hit PTS and I was 100% right...the game will never have the interesting combat and fights it could have as long as PBAOE are so OP as they have been for so long...

someone who knows what there talking about right here. agree. buff ground based ults and abilitys. nerf pbaoe.

olsborg

It needs a serious nerf, who cares if it cost 250 ult, Id happily increase my incap or dawnrbeaker cost if it guaranteed 1-5 ppl to die to it.

Lava_Croft

olsborg wrote: »

It needs a serious nerf, who cares if it cost 250 ult, Id happily increase my incap or dawnrbeaker cost if it guaranteed 1-5 ppl to die to it.

At least all the Magicka TrashBlades have found a purpose again. Run into an enemy group with this Ultimate and hope you kill a few PvE players in the <5 seconds it takes for you to get killed. If you are really skilled you will take a few other TrashBlades and 8 healbots Templars with you in your group.

Ling

remove stam proc sets NOW!

LuminaLilly

It seems when a stameta hopper gets killed they have to make a thread about it.

LMar

It's kinda funny that before it was released everyone talked about how bad this ultimate was going to be and now people are raging against it. There's so many ways to deal with this expensive ultimate. At least you can't proc it with a light attack !

Jaronking

ValkynSketha wrote: »

And what about tremorscale, viper, widowmaker, and other stam procc sets that can kill a target with 1 light attack?

I want those removed as well.Yea eye of the Storm is a monster of a ultimate don't like it and would be glad if they remove it but if not its just something else broken in this game zos won't fix.

JD2013

malchior

So is this Proxy Det all over again?

Jaronking

I have to ask all the people who are defending this do you know you can make this ultimate disappear right so it goes off and doesn't show up and still do damage.Explain how I am going yo get away from something I can't see.Also please explain how am supposed to get away from the ultimate when getting gap close spammed by player and his 4+ buddies gap closing me?You know when 3-5 people gap closer you it case you to be immobilized and not able to move but let's all ignore that so we can defend our cheese because people still want to say magica is weak.]

DephlaterMouse

Berenhir wrote: »

Oh I can just move out of it? I didnt know that.
That probably is the solution. Like with the proc sets, i can just kill the enemy before he even hits me!

Tank you very much for your advice, I will whisper it to all the guys that got killed from my or others EotF/VD/Grothdarr/Alchemist builds.

And if I would have worn Bastion of the Heartland AND Reactive Armor while my pocket healer sat on that tree i use to mist form to and LOS away, I wouldnt ever have died to the EotF trains in cyro

Wait wait wait wait wait a minute... You're a vampire with mist form one your bar, and you can't figure out how to counter this ultimate?

Back to the short bus bro. You got some remedial learning to do.

leepalmer95

Jaronking wrote: »

I have to ask all the people who are defending this do you know you can make this ultimate disappear right so it goes off and doesn't show up and still do damage.Explain how I am going yo get away from something I can't see.Also please explain how am supposed to get away from the ultimate when getting gap close spammed by player and his 4+ buddies gap closing me?You know when 3-5 people gap closer you it case you to be immobilized and not able to move but let's all ignore that so we can defend our cheese because people still want to say magica is weak.]

Your gonna die either way?

Whats the difference between 5-6 stamina builds with viper gap closing your and someone using a 250 ultimate.

Lava_Croft

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

I have to ask all the people who are defending this do you know you can make this ultimate disappear right so it goes off and doesn't show up and still do damage.Explain how I am going yo get away from something I can't see.Also please explain how am supposed to get away from the ultimate when getting gap close spammed by player and his 4+ buddies gap closing me?You know when 3-5 people gap closer you it case you to be immobilized and not able to move but let's all ignore that so we can defend our cheese because people still want to say magica is weak.]

Your gonna die either way?

Whats the difference between 5-6 stamina builds with viper gap closing your and someone using a 250 ultimate.

The fact that you think it's fine to compare 5-6 people attacking you versus 1 person attacking you says it all.

DRXHarbinger

Jaronking wrote: »

I have to ask all the people who are defending this do you know you can make this ultimate disappear right so it goes off and doesn't show up and still do damage.Explain how I am going yo get away from something I can't see.Also please explain how am supposed to get away from the ultimate when getting gap close spammed by player and his 4+ buddies gap closing me?You know when 3-5 people gap closer you it case you to be immobilized and not able to move but let's all ignore that so we can defend our cheese because people still want to say magica is weak.]

That's a bug with mist form. ZOS know about it.

leepalmer95

Lava_Croft wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

I have to ask all the people who are defending this do you know you can make this ultimate disappear right so it goes off and doesn't show up and still do damage.Explain how I am going yo get away from something I can't see.Also please explain how am supposed to get away from the ultimate when getting gap close spammed by player and his 4+ buddies gap closing me?You know when 3-5 people gap closer you it case you to be immobilized and not able to move but let's all ignore that so we can defend our cheese because people still want to say magica is weak.]

Your gonna die either way?

Whats the difference between 5-6 stamina builds with viper gap closing your and someone using a 250 ultimate.

The fact that you think it's fine to compare 5-6 people attacking you versus 1 person attacking you says it all.

I was suggesting the difference between 5-6 people both ways, one group with the ult, one without it but with proc sets.

Either way your going to die.

DRXHarbinger

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

I have to ask all the people who are defending this do you know you can make this ultimate disappear right so it goes off and doesn't show up and still do damage.Explain how I am going yo get away from something I can't see.Also please explain how am supposed to get away from the ultimate when getting gap close spammed by player and his 4+ buddies gap closing me?You know when 3-5 people gap closer you it case you to be immobilized and not able to move but let's all ignore that so we can defend our cheese because people still want to say magica is weak.]

Your gonna die either way?

Whats the difference between 5-6 stamina builds with viper gap closing your and someone using a 250 ultimate.

The fact that you think it's fine to compare 5-6 people attacking you versus 1 person attacking you says it all.

I was suggesting the difference between 5-6 people both ways, one group with the ult, one without it but with proc sets.

Either way your going to die.

So what's the problem? That sounds balanced to me. You shouldn't be fighting off that many people anyway.

KingYogi415

Every new skill and gear set has been called a "cheese" for the past 6 months.

If 70% of cryo is running these 5-15 sets is that not balance?

Adapt or die!.
The people complaining about the current META are the same people who complained about every prior one.

Cheers!

Julianos

eye of storm and proc sets in pvp is just so BS this game has *** up badly so stop arguing over BS not worth it

Quelhallow

Tired of AOE damage done by Eye of the Storm?

5 pieces of Leki's Focus reduces AOE damage by 25%
The dual wield skill, Blade Cloak, reduces AOE damage by 20%

A lot of stamina builds are DW these days. You probably have a slot open for blade cloak.

Jaronking

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

I have to ask all the people who are defending this do you know you can make this ultimate disappear right so it goes off and doesn't show up and still do damage.Explain how I am going yo get away from something I can't see.Also please explain how am supposed to get away from the ultimate when getting gap close spammed by player and his 4+ buddies gap closing me?You know when 3-5 people gap closer you it case you to be immobilized and not able to move but let's all ignore that so we can defend our cheese because people still want to say magica is weak.]

Your gonna die either way?

Whats the difference between 5-6 stamina builds with viper gap closing your and someone using a 250 ultimate.

Well you already said the difference that's 5-6 people and not One guy with a ultimate.I wont die either way only if the player cloaks or mist forms first then I will die.

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

I have to ask all the people who are defending this do you know you can make this ultimate disappear right so it goes off and doesn't show up and still do damage.Explain how I am going yo get away from something I can't see.Also please explain how am supposed to get away from the ultimate when getting gap close spammed by player and his 4+ buddies gap closing me?You know when 3-5 people gap closer you it case you to be immobilized and not able to move but let's all ignore that so we can defend our cheese because people still want to say magica is weak.]

That's a bug with mist form. ZOS know about it.

Yea but knowing them they won't fix it until update 17.

thankyourat

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

I have to ask all the people who are defending this do you know you can make this ultimate disappear right so it goes off and doesn't show up and still do damage.Explain how I am going yo get away from something I can't see.Also please explain how am supposed to get away from the ultimate when getting gap close spammed by player and his 4+ buddies gap closing me?You know when 3-5 people gap closer you it case you to be immobilized and not able to move but let's all ignore that so we can defend our cheese because people still want to say magica is weak.]

Your gonna die either way?

Whats the difference between 5-6 stamina builds with viper gap closing your and someone using a 250 ultimate.

The fact that you think it's fine to compare 5-6 people attacking you versus 1 person attacking you says it all.

I was suggesting the difference between 5-6 people both ways, one group with the ult, one without it but with proc sets.

Either way your going to die.

So what's the problem? That sounds balanced to me. You shouldn't be fighting off that many people anyway.

Before viper came along it was uncommon for me to win fights vs 4-6 people now my fights usually are cut short because everyone's damage is so high. So last week i started zerg surfing more, but then everyone is running eots. It's just cheese everywhere

Tryxus

malchior wrote: »

So is this Proxy Det all over again?

Funny thing: the first time I saw the morph when I lvled the skill up, I was like "Oh no!" and I had this image of Proxy Det going off...

Jaronking

I say make it scale like proxy det than everyone wins it helps kill zergs while not doing as much damage to one player.

SanTii.92

lul this thread

Qbiken

ValkynSketha wrote: »

And what about tremorscale, viper, widowmaker, and other stam procc sets that can kill a target with 1 light attack?

Technicly viper isn´t a proc set since it hasn´t have any % change to proc....(but I get what you mean)

Lava_Croft

Qbiken wrote: »

ValkynSketha wrote: »

And what about tremorscale, viper, widowmaker, and other stam procc sets that can kill a target with 1 light attack?

Technicly viper isn´t a proc set since it hasn´t have any % change to proc....(but I get what you mean)

A proc set doesn't need a percentage chance to be a proc set. All it needs is to have a special process that starts when a condition is met. In the case of Viper this condition is doing melee damage.

NativeJoe

So... Your running and zergs, got bad gear, and poor spacial awareness and run into eots and die.

Magicka solution: Wear Phoenix + VD.
Stamina solution: Wear the stamina equivalent to Phoenix + viper

Problem solved. If two lives isn't enough of a hint to move out of the giant cloudy storm... I don't know what else I can do for you.

Lord_Eomer

Tryxus wrote: »

andreasranasen wrote: »

TBH, just be quiet. This thread is just STUPID. I almost want to create a thread talking about how stupid these threads are. Us magicka users get 1 damn toy and these cookie cutter stam *** wanna nerf it already. Like get out of here.

I'm a magicka user, and I want it nerfed (1st time I've asked for a nerf )

And I'm prob not the only one...

Because you see, that ulti doesn't care if someone's a magicka or a stam build, it will easily kill you all the same

Proc sets are an issue, you're right about that. But giving the other side a broken ulti to combat it isn't the answer. 2 wrongs don't make a right.

3 rights however make a left

You are not a magicka user but ganker who want every magic skill to nerf! Infact not want magicka at all...

SanTii.92

If you are a zerg and got wiped by another zerg who timed their ults better than you, you got outplayed.

If you are solo or small scale and put yourself to an outnumbered fight and got chased by gap closer spams and well timed ults, you also got outplayed.

And if you or your group got wiped by q single magicka char who ults and 'spam gap closes' so you can't get away from the ult as you say, I'm afraid to tell you that you just got to l2p.

Which is exactly the problem with the ult again?