Remove Eye of the Storm NOW!

TrueGreenSmoker

Why so mad? lol

ThePaleItalian

ParaNostram wrote: »

Ah stamina players QQing away. Please, your tears fuel me.

Uhhh, it was a magicka thread....

alexkdd99

xeNNNNN wrote: »

WuffyCerulei wrote: »

Magicka gets something good for once. It hurts like every stamina build out there. People complain and what it gone.

its nothing to do with that at all.


Its everything to do with the fact that eye of the storm is a massive AoE that zergs abuse coupled with proxy det and vicious death. Magicka users get something good for once pfft lol Sure the games leaning towards stamina and has done for a long time but magicka has some of the most absurd AoE skills in the game and a set which essentially was made to destroy zergs and instead it helps them.

So frankly it does need nerfing or reworking. Eye of the storm is just ruining PvP right now.

Lol ruining pvp. Where have you been? It's been ruined.

In case you haven't noticed this is how zos combats op sets or skills. By making something else that counters it op. Sorc shields = shield breaker, zergs = vicious death, stam procs= eye of the storm. This is how zos does it.

Nerfbabies ultimately ruin the game by causing zos to introduce more and more op skills/sets.

This skill is not ruining it any more than any of the other skills or sets. Actually I very rarely see anyone using this skill. But I see validreth and tremorscale everywhere I turn in Cyrodiil. So get over it and find a way around it as everyone else has found counters to everything that people cried were op with no counters in the past.

andreasranasen

alexkdd99 wrote: »

xeNNNNN wrote: »

WuffyCerulei wrote: »

Magicka gets something good for once. It hurts like every stamina build out there. People complain and what it gone.

its nothing to do with that at all.


Its everything to do with the fact that eye of the storm is a massive AoE that zergs abuse coupled with proxy det and vicious death. Magicka users get something good for once pfft lol Sure the games leaning towards stamina and has done for a long time but magicka has some of the most absurd AoE skills in the game and a set which essentially was made to destroy zergs and instead it helps them.

So frankly it does need nerfing or reworking. Eye of the storm is just ruining PvP right now.

Lol ruining pvp. Where have you been? It's been ruined.

In case you haven't noticed this is how zos combats op sets or skills. By making something else that counters it op. Sorc shields = shield breaker, zergs = vicious death, stam procs= eye of the storm. This is how zos does it.

Nerfbabies ultimately ruin the game by causing zos to introduce more and more op skills/sets.

This skill is not ruining it any more than any of the other skills or sets. Actually I very rarely see anyone using this skill. But I see validreth and tremorscale everywhere I turn in Cyrodiil. So get over it and find a way around it as everyone else has found counters to everything that people cried were op with no counters in the past.

THANK YOU! At least there's one smart person out there.

xeNNNNN

alexkdd99 wrote: »

xeNNNNN wrote: »

WuffyCerulei wrote: »

Magicka gets something good for once. It hurts like every stamina build out there. People complain and what it gone.

its nothing to do with that at all.


Its everything to do with the fact that eye of the storm is a massive AoE that zergs abuse coupled with proxy det and vicious death. Magicka users get something good for once pfft lol Sure the games leaning towards stamina and has done for a long time but magicka has some of the most absurd AoE skills in the game and a set which essentially was made to destroy zergs and instead it helps them.

So frankly it does need nerfing or reworking. Eye of the storm is just ruining PvP right now.

Lol ruining pvp. Where have you been? It's been ruined.

In case you haven't noticed this is how zos combats op sets or skills. By making something else that counters it op. Sorc shields = shield breaker, zergs = vicious death, stam procs= eye of the storm. This is how zos does it.

Nerfbabies ultimately ruin the game by causing zos to introduce more and more op skills/sets.

This skill is not ruining it any more than any of the other skills or sets. Actually I very rarely see anyone using this skill. But I see validreth and tremorscale everywhere I turn in Cyrodiil. So get over it and find a way around it as everyone else has found counters to everything that people cried were op with no counters in the past.

1) you put way to much emphasis on "ruining" as how and when something is ruined is a matter of prespective which is why what I said is totally my opinion and not fact.

2) I am aware that, this is how they do it and I hate them for it. Its a lazy way of attempting to balance a game. There is never true balance that is a fact but the job of a balance team is to try to push the game as close as it can towards being balanced. Its like perfection. You can never attain to it, so you aspire to it instead, but not like this.

3) Tremor scale yeah ill agree its broken, Ive even gone as far as to call it "scrubscale". As for vilidreths I see it less and less frequently but I have been burst killed a few times with it which is why like all other sets I believe the balance between sets should be seperated so that the sets and skills have different effects depending on your location ex: If PvE - Set does A, If PvP set does B.

4) Yes, yes it is ruining it (opinion) because its cumulative. If you constantly stack AoE abilities on one player then multiply said players doing it, it becomes almost unstoppable unless you have a counter-group doing the exact same thing. On their own the abilities themselves can be dealt with and the fact that ZoS has nerfed Proxy time and time again proves that they are willing to attempt to balance the game, Meaning they can do it with everything else. But until they do its just going to be an AoE rave all day everyday. PvP has become more meaningless than it ever has been. (opinion). Hell im a stamina player these days but even I dont want stamina to be dominate, its just not good for the game to be this one sided. But you dont fix that by adding more and more AoE.

Karius_Imalthar

Only I should be allowed to use armor sets and skills.

Unsent.Soul

alexkdd99 wrote: »

xeNNNNN wrote: »

WuffyCerulei wrote: »

Magicka gets something good for once. It hurts like every stamina build out there. People complain and what it gone.

its nothing to do with that at all.


Its everything to do with the fact that eye of the storm is a massive AoE that zergs abuse coupled with proxy det and vicious death. Magicka users get something good for once pfft lol Sure the games leaning towards stamina and has done for a long time but magicka has some of the most absurd AoE skills in the game and a set which essentially was made to destroy zergs and instead it helps them.

So frankly it does need nerfing or reworking. Eye of the storm is just ruining PvP right now.

Lol ruining pvp. Where have you been? It's been ruined.

In case you haven't noticed this is how zos combats op sets or skills. By making something else that counters it op. Sorc shields = shield breaker, zergs = vicious death, stam procs= eye of the storm. This is how zos does it.

Nerfbabies ultimately ruin the game by causing zos to introduce more and more op skills/sets.

This skill is not ruining it any more than any of the other skills or sets. Actually I very rarely see anyone using this skill. But I see validreth and tremorscale everywhere I turn in Cyrodiil. So get over it and find a way around it as everyone else has found counters to everything that people cried were op with no counters in the past.

Very rarely see people use this skill? Do you enter and play in cyrodil with a blindfold?

DannyLV702

No

Bramir

Seriously, get out of the aoe. I haven't been killed by this ultimate but once...

Valethar

It's all fun and games, until someone loses in the Eye.

Solariken

Maybe I'm just lucky, but I see people popping this ulti left and right and I still haven't been killed by it. It has super clear messaging and the radius isn't huge...

andreasranasen

Solariken wrote: »

Maybe I'm just lucky, but I see people popping this ulti left and right and I still haven't been killed by it. It has super clear messaging and the radius isn't huge...

You can easily dodge roll out of it or just get the *** out of it lol. It's so simple. Don't know why people are crying.

Shryd

I personally don't know how much damage it can do, cause when I see such a HUGE AND SHINY AOE, I frick'n get out of the damn way.

Unsent.Soul

Shryd wrote: »

I personally don't know how much damage it can do, cause when I see such a HUGE AND SHINY AOE, I frick'n get out of the damn way.

Haha that's funny. You realize there are methods to make this ultimate barely viable, if at all, outside of your death recap?

I love all the smartass responses people post.

PS4_ZeColmeia

Bats is still better and costs less (almost half). Here is a secret counter: snare, knockdown, really any cc + run/dodge roll/interrupt

Vaoh

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Lol wish I made a video of this...

Struggling to breach...np. just get 6 others to don eye of the storm, everyone puts proxy on and charges in with sap sap sap sap sap. It's so good you can't even tell there are 6x10k ticks coming your way lol. Fried the whole keep instantly.

If you tried that against a strong and competant group of equal size, you would have been slowed to a near standstill upon charging in, rooted, probably CCed, and then definitely Negated, all the awhile you'd get ulti-bombed and slaughtered in seconds.

Yeah it works versus the majority of Cyrodiil PUGs, I'll give you that. Everything does though

You know full well that charging blindly into a keep with 6 Eye of Flames up does not equal 60K stacked damage nor victory if your opponents are a prepared group.

Of course. But if you see a healer standing on top of the keep in a wedding dress it means don't do that. Pro groups are way too easy to spot. I cannot recall the last time I got negated though. No one uses it on XB. Everyone is just going bat *** for viper builds or eye of the storm.

Yeah I've noticed that too. Many Sorcs have dropped Negate Magic for the Destro Ult.

Makes Negates that much more valuable though imo.

NewBlacksmurf

Just seperate PvP from PvE

biovitalb16_ESO

"This one time I died to eye of the storm while spamming wrecking blow. Plz nerf"

andreasranasen

biovitalb16_ESO wrote: »

"This one time I died to eye of the storm while spamming wrecking blow. Plz nerf"

HAHA

RinaldoGandolphi

Your wasting your Breath OP

I have been telling them for 2 years that PBAOE(Player Based Area Of Effect Skills) are too powerful
In this game

Steel tornado is better then nearly every single target skill in the game from a cost to damage dealt comparison. This is just one example, Pulsar used to be OP becUse of its large range, high damage, and cutting your max health by 10%

Ground target AOE skills are trash in pvp, cost more to cast, deal less damage, and require thought to use.

Hmm let's see casting Liquid Lighting for 3k that deals 2k damage per second(in a small area) vs Steel Tornado that deals 4K upfront damage instantly, does more damage to low health targets, and costs less...i dunno which one I would use (sarcasm)

It took me almost a year to get Bombard changed as everyone was aggravated beyond reproach to not being able to move in Cyrodiil, they fixed that but made it worse in other ways

PBAOE abilities need to have their damage drastically reduced and their cost increased significantly. Ground Target AOE are balanced, they require thought to use, don't deal more damage then most single target abilities upfront like PBAOE skills do

As long as PBAOE skills stay OP the way they have, the stack and spam meta will continue..EOTS is only OP because of its PBAOE component just like Proxy Det, hardly anyone uses Inevitable Det or Elemental Rage because they are not PBAOE.

Simply put ZOS is going to have to put the shovel to PBAOE skills via battlespirit(as not to effect PVE) if they want to have any interesting pvp beyond zerging...some folks may not like this, but it's the truth...I called the Bombard meta before TG ever hit PTS and I was 100% right...the game will never have the interesting combat and fights it could have as long as PBAOE are so OP as they have been for so long...

JamieAubrey

I just want a red circle so I can see where it is

So many times I've been killed from it ( 20k+ ) from what looks like it hardly touching me

vyndral13preub18_ESO

Not yet! I just finished morphing it! Streak and eye! Cyrodiil here i come!

itscompton

Unsent.Soul wrote: »

On multiple death recaps last night I had all 3 of the ultimates. Usually only 1 tic for each. We were in a group of 4, outnumbered by groups of 12-15 in the districts.

The ult hits hard and does its job well. I think the main issue is it's not showing on the ground like other attacks.

No red circles, you look for the other cues but by that time we were dead anyways.

I just laughed as my best death recap had all 3 destro ult elements and radiant sprinkled in there for flair.

Truthfully that's probably the only fix this Ult needs: red circles to let you know you're in the AOE, fighting 1v1 or even 1v3 I can see it coming and most times get out of the AOE, but fighting against bigger groups, especially if I'm around lots of friendlies, there are so many lighting effects popping off from everyone's other skills it's really hard to tell someone has this up until it's already done 15K damage.

WillhelmBlack

Fact.

My death recaps are 100% guaranteed to contain either an Eye of the Potato and/or a stamina proc set.

It's getting quite tiring.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

Waffennacht wrote: »

Ok then delete incapacitating strike and assassin's will, then we got a deal

Calboy wrote: »

The issue with eots is that stamina builds can't just mindlessly charge in and proc their sets. Change this now zos so stamina don't have to worry about anything other than other stamina proc sets!!

A hard hitting, unblock-able and sometimes invisible AoE ultimate.

LiquidSchwartz

While it's op as *** I think it's needed to balance the proc set aids and without it I wouldn't have gotten flawless on my magic DK lmao melted every boss so ez

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

Waffennacht wrote: »

Ok then delete incapacitating strike and assassin's will, then we got a deal

That's too block-able single target powers no an AoE that's you have to run from even if you can't see it.

AlexTech0x

Everytime i get killed there is an Eye doing 15k+ dmg. If a skill does the same DMG to both bosses with 5m HP and players with 23k HP a game will never be balanced.

Joy_Division

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

Is someone upset because they cant face tank magic users anymore? God forbid you might have to move away from someone casting an ultimate. L2P...

It might have something to do with inconveniencing the coordination of their Viper-Velidreth-Widoemaker procs

Haquor

Berenhir wrote: »

WuffyCerulei wrote: »

Magicka gets something good for once. It hurts like every stamina build out there. People complain and what it gone.

I main magblade and magsorc, so I only profit. But the game doesnt. Its stupid cheese and whoever designes this games combat skills needs to be replaced (and live in his car forever).

Yeah... you are clearly requesting it be deleted cause it makes you kill pople too easily. Im sure it had nothing to do with you being killed by it and being upset.

Same old story people saying that they are using it and its OP. Classic.