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XxBradeyxX

I am looking to PVP and PVE. What would be the best magic race for templar?

NewBlacksmurf

Think of
High elf
Breton
Maybe dark elf

JamieAubrey

Magicka: High Elf, Breton

Beruge

I love my Argonian Magick templar.

But i think it depends on your playstyle to be honest.

XxBradeyxX

JamieAubrey wrote: »

Magicka: High Elf, Breton

But which one is better? High elf or Breton?

KochDerDamonen

idk Redguard




If you really wanted to optimize your dps, healing or tanking I'm sure you can find a guide on tamriel foundry that tells you how every passive you get interacts with each other and results in the best .1% upgrade in effectiveness.

Detective_Hacc

XxBradeyxX wrote: »

JamieAubrey wrote: »

Magicka: High Elf, Breton

But which one is better? High elf or Breton?

High Elf will give you more Magicka, but Breton will give you faster Magicka Regeneration. I would honestly say High Elf, but it's so close a call that it really doesn't matter, honestly.

Ajaxduo

XxBradeyxX wrote: »

JamieAubrey wrote: »

Magicka: High Elf, Breton

But which one is better? High elf or Breton?

For PvE Dunmer is better.

disintegr8

My healer is a Breton magplar and I am happy with the result.

Silver_Strider

For pure burst heals, there's Argonian
For everything else, there's Master Card.

runagate

starkerealm

KochDerDamonen wrote: »

idk Redguard

No, Khajiit.

Honestly, it's probably either Breton or High Elf. I can't remember if the High Elves get the same cost discount the Bretons do, but I suspect the max Magicka up that High Elves get is slightly more valuble than the regen and cost discount for Bretons... but I run an Imperial Templar. *shrugs*

QUEZ420

Argonian hands down.

starkerealm

QUEZ420 wrote: »

Argonian hands down.

But only if you have the Werewolf Lord Transform, because holy crap that thing's awesome on an Argonian.

BRogueNZ

XxBradeyxX wrote: »

JamieAubrey wrote: »

Magicka: High Elf, Breton

But which one is better? High elf or Breton?

If you're wishing to throw elemental damage into your can-do-bag 4% is not significant but a reasonable bonus. Altmer.

EldritchPenguin

BRogueNZ wrote: »

XxBradeyxX wrote: »

JamieAubrey wrote: »

Magicka: High Elf, Breton

But which one is better? High elf or Breton?

If you're wishing to throw elemental damage into your can-do-bag 4% is not significant but a reasonable bonus. Altmer.

If you're just considering elemental damage, then Dunmer might actually be a better choice if you're going with fire spells, since the 7% bonus to fire outweighs the loss of 1% Magicka. Plus there'a also the fire resistance and the bonus stamina.

So Dunmer for the most damage out of Blockade and LA's mixed with some defense and a bit more Stamina (very useful in PvP), Altmer for very high damage and good sustain, and Breton for high defense and good sustain.

Really, all three are great choices for Magicka builds.

Argonian are the fourth race with a Magicka bonus, but in general, they are probably the 4th best Magicka race, but they make mean Mag tanks, and their healing bonus (which is usually overkill in PvE) is very strong in PvP. Not to mention that Resourceful gives them really strong resource management. However, if you want a Magplar with a bit more defense, you're probably overall better off with a Breton.

teladoy

Argonian.

Affenbaron

XxBradeyxX wrote: »

I am looking to PVP and PVE. What would be the best magic race for templar?

PVE-Heal: Argonian
PVE-DPS: Dunmer
PVP: Dunmer

WillhelmBlack

Best PvP and PvE race for Magicka Templar is Dunmer.

Stamina is split. For PvP, Redguard is the best for the sustain but for PvE Khajiit is better because they have a giant boost to crit.

I have a breton because I've always mained a breton in all the ES games. That's probably the second best choice for PvP because they get 10% extra Magicka, 3% cost reduction to spells (heavy armour is the Meta in PvP, this passive is great) and MASSIVE spell resist.

Others have mentioned Altmer for Magicka Templar but I've tried Altmer this update, you're better off with Dunmer. Almost the same max Magicka but better resistances, better Elemental damage and 6% more stamina for blocking, better in every way.

Wollust

For PvE DPS it's definitely Dunmer. High Elf is slightly weaker.
For PvP you can go with High Elf, Breton, Argonian, Dunmer. All solid choices.

BRogueNZ

EldritchPenguin wrote: »

BRogueNZ wrote: »

XxBradeyxX wrote: »

JamieAubrey wrote: »

Magicka: High Elf, Breton

But which one is better? High elf or Breton?

If you're wishing to throw elemental damage into your can-do-bag 4% is not significant but a reasonable bonus. Altmer.

If you're just considering elemental damage, then Dunmer might actually be a better choice if you're going with fire spells, since the 7% bonus to fire outweighs the loss of 1% Magicka. Plus there'a also the fire resistance and the bonus stamina.

So Dunmer for the most damage out of Blockade and LA's mixed with some defense and a bit more Stamina (very useful in PvP), Altmer for very high damage and good sustain, and Breton for high defense and good sustain.

Really, all three are great choices for Magicka builds.

Argonian are the fourth race with a Magicka bonus, but in general, they are probably the 4th best Magicka race, but they make mean Mag tanks, and their healing bonus (which is usually overkill in PvE) is very strong in PvP. Not to mention that Resourceful gives them really strong resource management. However, if you want a Magplar with a bit more defense, you're probably overall better off with a Breton.

fair enough. I prefer not being limited to just +fire damage.

ryanborror

Dark elf best for damage pve. High elf best all around with recovery. Argonian is a good healer. Breton for healing/magic tanking only.

failkiwib16_ESO

TOooOOooOoooooooo much confusion and wrong information in this thread - a simple google search and here you go, the correct information: Racial Skills
Breton:

1. Increases Max Magicka by 10%.
2. Increases Spell Resistance by 3960.
3. Reduces the Magicka cost of your abilities by 3%.

Dunmer:

1. Increases Max Magicka and Max Stamina by 6%.
2. Increases Max Magicka by 3% and Flame Resistance by 2079.
3. Increases your Flame Damage by 7% & Increases your Frost and Shock Damage by 2%.

Atmer:

1. Increased Magicka Recovery by 9%.
2. Increases Max Magicka by 10%.
3. Increases your Flame, Frost and Shock Damage by 4%.

Argonian:

1. Increases your Max Magicka by 3%. & Whenever you drink a potion you are restored 12% of your Max Health, Magicka, and Stamina.
2. Increases Max Health by 9% and Poison and Disease Resistance by 1485.
3. Increases your healing done and received by 5%.

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Best for templar healing: Altmer, Breton
Best for templar damage dealing: Dunmer, Altmer
Best for templar tanking: Breton, Dunmer
Best for templar overhealing: Argonian
Best for templar roleplaying: Argonian

Regardless of what role you choose, you can not go wrong with Breton/Altmer/Dunmer races for a magicka templar. Some of them are a tiny bit better at certain roles, however it really boils down to L2/ framerate/lag issues between those 3 races.

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Argonians are noticeably worse at dealing damage and their buffs are weak compared to the other races, so it's a big NO if you intend to join endgame content with that character. Because if you are not already acknowledged and well known for your personal skills and proven that you hold your weight - then raid leaders will most likely ask you to optimize by making a new char, or have a race-change.
-If you are already well known for being a great player, and you have already proven your worth and impressed people - then raid leaders don't care, because they know you can play better than most "optimized" players they can get into their group.

For 4-mans group dungeons and pledges any race goes, people don't really care if you can hold your weight and do your role. The community like argonians due to funny and amusing names, they have a tail etc. making a lizard char is a good way of connecting with other people and finding friends.

DoccEff

failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »

Best for templar overhealing: Argonian

Put less CP into increased healing done. Problem solved.

Imo Argonian is best for PvE-Healing. The 9% more health will also help you to get to a decent number of about 17k without having to put any points into hp.
Plus Argonians look best.

Grabmoore

@failkiwi: This is just not true. I'm argonian Templar and your view just just distracted from fotm builds.
Breton is actually weak! The magicka resistence is useless, im at 27 why my argonian and defending msa resto already. The cost reduction is bad, too.

The real answer is dunmer.

starkerealm

Grabmoore wrote: »

@failkiwi: This is just not true. I'm argonian Templar and your view just just distracted from fotm builds.
Breton is actually weak! The magicka resistence is useless, im at 27 why my argonian and defending msa resto already. The cost reduction is bad, too.

The real answer is dunmer.

Have you taken any characters to 50 yet?

I mean, honest question. The racial resistances (Bretons, Nords, I forget who else) actually scale with your level. I forget what the resist is at 50, but it is significant.

3% cost reduction isn't particularly exciting, but it is significant enough to be very worthwhile. The biggest issue with Bretons is simply that they don't get a max magicka up effect, the way the elves do and Argonians. But, in turn they are better suited to dealing with magic spraying foes.

The numbers themselves may not seem that impressive, but they have a real effect in game, and do affect how the races play.

That said, you can, absolutely, do whatever you want with your characters and get away with it. Racial modifiers are, "suggestions" more than hard limits.

failkiwib16_ESO

DoccEff wrote: »

failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »

Best for templar overhealing: Argonian

Put less CP into increased healing done. Problem solved.

Imo Argonian is best for PvE-Healing. The 9% more health will also help you to get to a decent number of about 17k without having to put any points into hp.
Plus Argonians look best.

I didn't write that as a problem, so it's funny to see you finding a solution xD

Grabmoore wrote: »

@failkiwi: This is just not true. I'm argonian Templar and your view just just distracted from fotm builds.
Breton is actually weak! The magicka resistence is useless, im at 27 why my argonian and defending msa resto already. The cost reduction is bad, too.

The real answer is dunmer.

@Grabmoore That post was the best advice I could give to OP, it was a contribution from my gathered knowledge and experience.

If that matches FOTM, then it is a good thing. FOTM is up to date and effective + popular.
If that clashes with your personal opinion, that is out of my control.

Prof_Bawbag

Unless you're looking to rinse every last bit of min/max out of your character, then I find Dunmers pretty hardy especially if you wear light armour. The fire protection helps a lot because it's the most common elemental damage type.

Grabmoore

@starkerealm: 7 chars to 50.130 days ingame on my templar alone, stormproof, around 700 cps.
Again, 3% is worthless with max cps, because of diminishing returns. I'd take argonian stats or dunmers resistence any day.


@failkiwi: elemental damage is stronger than a Bit more magicka.

ad4mss

Actually you can play any race as templar, but if you wanna play magicka and have additional bonuses choose High Elf or Breton as they are typical magicka races.

Asardes

ATM I have 8 characters and a free character slot. I want to make an EP character, but I'm not decided if he will be another Dunmer or an Argonian just for the fun. I'm not really convinced the Argonian passives are actually that good. Endgame a healer will actually have more than enough spell damage and critical to heal anyone to full health from a single BoL, and have really strong ticks from HoTs that would most times make the former unnecessary. A powered resto staff gives 7% more healing, and it's better than the Argonian passive. You can reach 17K without putting any points in health just by equipping a piece of heavy armor (ex. mismatched monster set that gives more magicka/magicka recovery/spell damage/spell critical) and having the heavy armor and undaunted passives. I'll probably make another Dunmer in the end, as pure DD, because the passives are simply better and I really don't like how Argonians look and behave, and I already have the healer spec on my Breton.