GEaring and skilling up for VMA

jroc699_burr

As the double rewards come im looking to do VMA my Main a Stam sorc i currently have 2 lekis sharpened and a random bow 2 TBS 3 agility aside from Vo or is VO blue viable has anyone ran this .But is there anything better i can use to make my life easier for this up coming challenge and any skill rotations for pve would be appreciated.

DRXHarbinger

Probably no chance.

Why everyone runs these leki daggers still is beyond me.

Ideal for stam sorc.

Automaton, 5 x VO and Veli.

Why you have 2 Tbs is beyond me.

If you don't have 5 VO then go with the original set up of 5 hundings or nmg, agility, Veli or krag and 2 hundings or nmg daggers. Depending on what armor you have obviously. Abilities is easy.

Bow, hail, injection, caltrops, bound armor and surge.

DW, rapids, rending, hurricane, bound armor and tornado. Ulti probably rend.

jroc699_burr

Sorry sir meant 5 tbs and the 2 lekis is for extra wepaon dmg and i dont have access to VO i could farm for blue vo

DRXHarbinger

Yes 5 Tbs is fine. Are lekis golded up? If they are don't bother with others it's not worth the hassle.

Just go with agility. You're crit will be a little low tbh, VO helps that little bit but don't bother with blue stuff, you kind of missed the boat as everyone farmed it months ago on lvl 45 and sanctum was dropping it on cp160. Good times.

Have you got veli or kra ga set?

Icy_Waffles

I'm wondering the same thing.

So far. 5 tbs. 2 veli. I have agility jewelry and 2 nmg gold daggers.

Wondering if I should switch out agility for viper and 2 viper daggers (no sharpened yet, one precise)

clv

Automaton is awful, it isn't buffed by Brutality and doesn't do anything for Injection. NMG is good and easier to get, you crit often enough with Hurricane ticking.

Reorx_Holybeard

My first few completions with my Stamina Sorc I was using:

• x5 Hunding
• x3 Agility (all healthy, x2 Weapon Damage, x1 Stamina Recovery)
• x4 / x3 Night Mother (shoulder, helmet, DW / Bow)

While I was at max CP I didn't have Vigor yet which makes it much easier. Eventually I upgraded for x2 Kra'gh and x1 VMA Bow which along with Vigor and Caltrops makes everything much easier. "Eventually" I'll upgrade to x5 VO for better sustain which is the main issue with the build (chugging dropping Stamina potions to keep up).

Note that the reason you see a lot of starting builds use x2 Leki DW (or x2 any similar set like NM or Hunding) is that your typical x5/x3/x2 (X + Monster + Agility) or x5/x5 (X + VO/?) leave your weapon slots free so until you eventually get your sharpened VMA weapons x2 Leki DW gives you an extra 129 Weapon Damage....better than nothing.

Lukums1

The following: easy clears ( and flawless capable ) - what I use.

Sellsitrix monster helm
3 agility
5 nightmothers
2 leki

It's EASILY achievable hands down, no questions about it.

VO is good but if you don't have it the above is what I'd run.

Sellistrix set will HELP a lot of people getting their first run down pat.
Also recovery food if not running VO, don't try max/max it will stuff you around for hours especially for your first clear.

jroc699_burr

Thank you very much is tbs or nmg better rn i have 2 sloria or.veli 2 leki 3 agility and 5 tbs

code65536

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

VO helps that little bit but don't bother with blue stuff

That's absolute nonsense. First, jewelry color is irrelevant in this game. It's a rounding error. It doesn't matter if you have blue, purple, or golden jewelry, the stat differences are so small that you would be hard-pressed to detect it in the standard background noise of combat randomness. Yes, gold VO jewelry is the best. No, having blue jewelry is a completely invalid and ridiculous reason to ditch VO.

Second, some of VO's most important buffs--the buffs that make it so attractive for vMA--don't even scale with color. Minor Slayer is always 5%. The cost reduction is always 8%. The Major Expedition is always there.

If you can get VO, use it. Doesn't matter one bit what the jewelry color is.

Lukums1

code65536 wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

VO helps that little bit but don't bother with blue stuff

That's absolute nonsense. First, jewelry color is irrelevant in this game. It's a rounding error. It doesn't matter if you have blue, purple, or golden jewelry, the stat differences are so small that you would be hard-pressed to detect it in the standard background noise of combat randomness. Yes, gold VO jewelry is the best. No, having blue jewelry is a completely invalid and ridiculous reason to ditch VO.

Second, some of VO's most important buffs--the buffs that make it so attractive for vMA--don't even scale with color. Minor Slayer is always 5%. The cost reduction is always 8%. The Major Expedition is always there.

If you can get VO, use it. Doesn't matter one bit what the jewelry color is.

I did my 10th stream run last night for these exact statements.

I used full prosperous gear with BLUE accessories VO, not kidding.

What you said is spot on 80 stam difference? a 50 crit difference people have got to be kidding.

I have full gold gear but that's not the point, the point is it's DO ABLE IN BLUES.

Nice post btw, I completely agree.

jasann

TBF you can have all the BiS fear for Vma but if you don't know the mechanics it doesn't matter what gear you have you will wipe a lot. Don't forget the sigils stones, your not going to make the scoreboard on your first runs so use them

jroc699_burr

Thank you very much guys

Moltyr

jroc699_burr wrote: »

As the double rewards come im looking to do VMA my Main a Stam sorc i currently have 2 lekis sharpened and a random bow 2 TBS 3 agility aside from Vo or is VO blue viable has anyone ran this .But is there anything better i can use to make my life easier for this up coming challenge and any skill rotations for pve would be appreciated.

It doesn't matter how great your gear is, if you don't have the knowledge and capacity to complete vMA...you won't. Period.


You need to have at least all purple armor, and preferably gold weapons. A basic and easy to acquire setup would be 2xLeki Daggers (sharp), 5x VO (3 jewelry, 2 armor), 5x TBS/NMG/Hundings (all divines).

As I said, you can put as much money into gearing up as you want. It will not clear the content for you. So don't expect vMA to be a cake walk, just because you have some shiny new gear.

jroc699_burr

fair enough lol would VO weapons with monster helm be more suitable

strikeback1247

My very first clear (on a stam dk though) was with 5x hunding's, 3x agility, 2x Engine Guardian, and a random bow and 2H maul.

Right now I'm running 5x TBS, 3x agility, 2x kragh and ofcourse maelstrom DW/bow.

Izaki

DR X already covered most of what I wanted to say but just as far as ultimates go:

Use Rend on bosses. Front bar (DW).

Use Dawnbreaker of Smiting on big mobs/mini bosses. Back bar (Bow).

Why DBoS over Flawless? 5% extra weapon damage isn't doing much on your back bar and DBoS's higher base damage is actually much stronger than the extra stats. Rend is amazing for bosses though. 16 seconds of insane DPS and self healing.

jroc699_burr

i do have either medium or heavy hundings or black rose instead tbs but it hink tbs is pretty beast ?

code65536

jroc699_burr wrote: »

fair enough lol would VO weapons with monster helm be more suitable

I'm not sure what's a worse grind: getting vMA weapons in perfect traits or Infal/VO weapons in perfect traits.

If you want to do a 2p monster set, then you'll use 5p NMG or Hunding (3 armor, 2 daggers, 1 bow), 5p VO (2 armor, 3 jewelry), 2p Monster set. A Leki setup without a monster set is easier to get because you can buy Leki weapons from the guild stores. But if you do have a 2p monster set that you like, then you should be using that instead of Leki.

jroc699_burr

well i can have crafted NMG np right now im running 5p tbs 2pc veli 2lekiswords sharp and 3 agility

kylewwefan

They are right. I have 5VO, 5NMG, Veledreth, could swap in Hundings or TBS or Viper......legendary all but jewelry.....still hung up on 5th round. But I'm getting closer!

jroc699_burr

yikes sir pull up a utube tablet for it !

code65536

jroc699_burr wrote: »

well i can have crafted NMG np right now im running 5p tbs 2pc veli 2lekiswords sharp and 3 agility

That's a fine setup, and you should be able to beat vMA with it. Would VO make this easier? Yes, by giving you more sustain and mobility. But you can do it with your current gear.

The problem with TBS is that it's not very good for solo content, and you cannot use TBS weapons. It does provide an extra margin of health, but you'll be better off with something like NMG or Hunding with one of the gear pieces enchanted to health.

Kutsuu

Without VO, you just need to use health/stamregen food (or other sustain methods, I guess sorcs have it easier with Dark Deal) and add some mobility to your build - it's harder but very much doable. Most VO builds can go without a gap closer and go pure damage due to the sustain advantage and expedition procs.

jroc699_burr

i also notice the sellstrix monster set for this looking pretty juicy

Bandit1215

IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »

DR X already covered most of what I wanted to say but just as far as ultimates go:

Use Rend on bosses. Front bar (DW).

Use Dawnbreaker of Smiting on big mobs/mini bosses. Back bar (Bow).

Why DBoS over Flawless? 5% extra weapon damage isn't doing much on your back bar and DBoS's higher base damage is actually much stronger than the extra stats. Rend is amazing for bosses though. 16 seconds of insane DPS and self healing.

Does it heal you as it ticks or all at once after it ends??

Kutsuu

Bandit1215 wrote: »

IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »

DR X already covered most of what I wanted to say but just as far as ultimates go:

Use Rend on bosses. Front bar (DW).

Use Dawnbreaker of Smiting on big mobs/mini bosses. Back bar (Bow).

Why DBoS over Flawless? 5% extra weapon damage isn't doing much on your back bar and DBoS's higher base damage is actually much stronger than the extra stats. Rend is amazing for bosses though. 16 seconds of insane DPS and self healing.

Does it heal you as it ticks or all at once after it ends??

It heals on every tick.

notimetocare

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Probably no chance.

Why everyone runs these leki daggers still is beyond me.

Ideal for stam sorc.

Automaton, 5 x VO and Veli.

Why you have 2 Tbs is beyond me.

If you don't have 5 VO then go with the original set up of 5 hundings or nmg, agility, Veli or krag and 2 hundings or nmg daggers. Depending on what armor you have obviously. Abilities is easy.

Bow, hail, injection, caltrops, bound armor and surge.

DW, rapids, rending, hurricane, bound armor and tornado. Ulti probably rend.

That may be the top gear, but you are a fool to think anyone cant do it wothout that. I run 2 velidreth, 5 hund 5 spriggan with a vma bow and can do a run in an hour unless i play poorly. Lacking vo, i have dark deal on overload bar when needed. Mind you, this is done as orc, noy a top race (will be doing it on my lizard too, probably only sligtly slower).

notimetocare

If you can, kraghs or velidreth are my recommendations

Icy_Waffles

I have 5 pvp TBS. 2 gold NMG daggers and bow. 2 piece velidreth. And agility jewelry. Should I switch out my TBS? my veli isn't divines. And my crit is only barely over 50%

scratch45

I use 5 hunding, 5 viper, and 2 Kra'gh all medium and all divine. You dont need VO to finish the Arena.

Use Dark deal to restore stamina.