vMA is very rewarding

Mojmir

Let's add maelstrom jewelry

jakeedmundson

clv wrote: »

jakeedmundson wrote: »

You know.... the first time you beat it. It actually does feel good to beat the arena. It's difficult and very unforgiving so it really is a fun accomplishment.

But then days go by... you do 10 more runs and get 5 bows (defending and nirn), 3 sword/shield sets (powered and infused), and 2 two handed axes (infused)....Then weeks go by and you do more runs and end up with the same garbage somehow... (save your lectures on RNG, i know how it works but the problem is the RNG itself - it shouldn't be this deep in vMA)
I still haven't seen an axe or dagger or ANY destro staff.... not one... and nothing sharpened.

Has the joke run its course yet at the ZOS office? Very funny folks... we all had a good laugh "ha" "ha" nice work on staying committed to the joke... but can we get something useful please for beating the hardest solo content in the game?... a dozen times? 50 times? At least give us some hope for change in the future....

If no.... then I suggest we make all trial drops like vMA. Every piece of jewelry that comes from vet trials should now come with all traits. I just want it to be fair for everyone... oh and take away the item trading in groups... then it might be similar to how the drops are in vMA. Say hello to 38 untrade-able, unsellable, ornate rings of vicious ophidian

Jewelry pieces only come in the ideal trait for them, have you even done a vet trial?

yeah... that was the joke in suggesting that they ADD all traits to trial jewelry so it would be on par with how crappy the vMA drops are....

jakeedmundson

Lukums1 wrote: »

jakeedmundson wrote: »

Lukums1 wrote: »

There are people who have run it 30-50 times and got each item exactly what they wanted.

So it's possible.

I love the people who shrug and be like yeah... nah not for me too crappy rng.. too many *** stories clearing etc etc.

That's cool enjoy sub-par dps, while we go on shredding.

Well the point is that the "reward" doesn't match the "work" at all. And you can get great dps without them... i've gotten on the leaderboards in every vet trial (except MoL) without mal weapons so far.

with a heavy attack build you can get maybe 3 to 4k dps extra with a sharpened lightning staff... and maybe 5 to 6k with stamina weapons. So people could still pull 40k+ without these weapons in a trial.

and btw...about those people that ONLY had to run it 40ish times.... thats still a terrible system. they literally spent 50+ hours to get 1 or 2 items. that is extremely unreasonable. Plus, those people are still out there that have run this place 100 times or more and still have nothing to show for it.... and i'm on track to be one of them.
MANY bow and shield drops for me... but i did finally get a precise staff!.... restoration.... so thanks for that

There is no carrot on the end of this stick

I don't disagree that the system is poor, I also don't agree that with the HUGE range of weapons and *** traits "something" needs to be done, I'm not sure what that something is, but removing the training/prosperous traits are a really good start.

It's RNG, you can smash out 3 runs a night without flinching (just assuming), is that not something to keep you going playing the game?
Isn't it exciting opening the chest regards of reward. For me it is... but I can't speak that plainly as I have everything so I don't care what I get... but is it still not fun all the same?

Perhaps I'm being a bit rough with those statements, but I think everyone deserves a fair "chance" and that's what we have.

If you like to keep doing this after you've found all your weapons than thats great... but from what i hear, not many other people enjoy playing this over and over and over... and those that are doing that... are still looking for something.

It would keep me playing eso if i could actually get the items i'm working towards...I want to get the mal weapons... then USE those weapons in trials and dungeons.

and i have to disagree with you on the bold above...There is no fair chance in vMA .... simply due to what you mentioned before. Too many items with too many traits. They need to create a system that allows you to work towards GAINING the item you need... not this consistent 1% chance that never works in your favor (or at least only works in some peoples favor)

Nichts

jakeedmundson wrote: »

You know.... the first time you beat it. It actually does feel good to beat the arena. It's difficult and very unforgiving so it really is a fun accomplishment.

But then days go by... you do 10 more runs and get 5 bows (defending and nirn), 3 sword/shield sets (powered and infused), and 2 two handed axes (infused)....Then weeks go by and you do more runs and end up with the same garbage somehow... (save your lectures on RNG, i know how it works but the problem is the RNG itself - it shouldn't be this deep in vMA)
I still haven't seen an axe or dagger or ANY destro staff.... not one... and nothing sharpened.

Has the joke run its course yet at the ZOS office? Very funny folks... we all had a good laugh "ha" "ha" nice work on staying committed to the joke... but can we get something useful please for beating the hardest solo content in the game?... a dozen times? 50 times? At least give us some hope for change in the future....

If no.... then I suggest we make all trial drops like vMA. Every piece of jewelry that comes from vet trials should now come with all traits. I just want it to be fair for everyone... oh and take away the item trading in groups... then it might be similar to how the drops are in vMA. Say hello to 38 untrade-able, unsellable, ornate rings of vicious ophidian

I run the aren since march.
I can equip ~3-4 stam DDs.
But I don't have a sharpened (or precise / nirn) inferno staff.

Pure frustration.

Moltyr

Rewarding....

jakeedmundson

Moltyr wrote: »

Rewarding....

yep.... that's pretty much what my list looks like too...getting tired of it zos.

Something needs to change. This event is only making things worse.

jakeedmundson

Having done this arena now.... many, many times and found maybe 1 or 2 items worth using...sharpened bow and precise dagger.
I have a proposal ... that zos will just ignore anyway... but here we go.

1. At the end of the arena instead of a final chest... talk to fuit (or whatever the name is) and choose which weapon you want. (specific choice or dagger, bow, lightning staff, etc.)
2. Keep the 8 traits possible and randomly roll one onto the item you chose
3. Each time you get an item (lets say you picked a destro inferno staff and got powered trait) that trait can't drop for that weapon again until you cycle through all 8 traits for that item. Worst case scenario... you run the arena 8 times to get ONE item you want. Or to gear one stam and one mag toon it would potentially be 32-40 runs of this arena. (one-two destro, one axe, one dagger, one bow)
4. Give different incentives for leader boards to promote replay value. Rewards could be rare motifs, pets, or a rare chance at a unique mount AND/OR mix in the same weekly rewards as other trials give out.

The people that want just the weapons from here can go for their clears... and see a light at the end of the tunnel.
The people that want to compete for leader board status still have good incentive to do so...

Everybody happy.


One other idea that would make me happier about running this as is.... make all the mal weapon drops gold instead of purple. A least then we could get a chance to find a gold mat.