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Transmutation stones.
Shadowasrial
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So one thing I'm sure everyone can agree on is everyone has a certain apearence they love and for a great deal of items it's locked to preset styles. Limiting the creativity of all of us. So I propose a second type of mimic stone purchased at the crown store that will allow you to transmute the apearence of any motif style you currently own onto your currently equipt gear. Example you don't like the Argonian style of viper sting but you love represent your alliance and use an alliance style. If you have alliance daggers motif learned you can use the stone to transmute this the apearence on your viper dagger. Comment below on your views.
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Shadowasrial✭✭✭✭✭
✭People would happily pay for it multiple times and because gear is always advancing this would always be a desired item4 -
Abeille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I support this.
Also a great way to drive Mimic Stones sales up without having to put exclusive motifs in the store.Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
Meet my characters:Command: Do the thing.
Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.3 -
Abeille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Please stop trying to monetize functions that should be in the base game.
At this point, it is either "find a way ZOS can make a profit on it" or "never have the feature introduced at all".Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
Meet my characters:Command: Do the thing.
Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.7 -
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Do you remember the huge thread about housing? I do. People expected and assumed and suggested they make it monetized somehow. What did ZOS decide to do? They'll make it base game like it should be.
I get it's a business, but common sense does have its place.1 -
Abeille✭✭✭✭✭
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Do you remember the huge thread about housing? I do. People expected and assumed and suggested they make it monetized somehow. What did ZOS decide to do? They'll make it base game like it should be.
I get it's a business, but common sense does have its place.
Housing will be monetized. They just didn't tell us how , yet.
Although a few pieces of furniture already had their Crown Store picture datamined, so it can be the most simple (and my preferred) road of having it as an alternative to craft your own furniture, or offering different styles through the Crown Store.Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
Meet my characters:Command: Do the thing.
Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.3 -
Yamenstein✭✭✭✭✭Please stop trying to monetize functions that should be in the base game.
The ability to change style of crafted gear, or any gear, isn't really something that SHOULD be in the base game. I think this is a fine idea. Though they should probably not do it and instead re-vamp crafting and allow us to craft costumes using any of the motif pieces we have access to. They could then maybe just make these suggested transmutation stones in the crown store as the required item to change one piece into another.
Mixing up motifs are a hit and miss at times, and honestly it's not like the motifs are that "OMFG SO AWESOME MUST HAVE THIS LOOK" all the time. ZoS would have to put in more effort into the costumes they sell on the crown store. Which will still be an issue if they just introduced transmutation stones alone.
Crown Crates are a trap. Don't fall for the gamble! Balance? What Balance? Balance, smellance.
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✭I have no idea but I don't know why they would pass up an idea that would guarantee people would buy crowns0 -
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Do you remember the huge thread about housing? I do. People expected and assumed and suggested they make it monetized somehow. What did ZOS decide to do? They'll make it base game like it should be.
I get it's a business, but common sense does have its place.
Housing will be monetized. They just didn't tell us how , yet.
Although a few pieces of furniture already had their Crown Store picture datamined, so it can be the most simple (and my preferred) road of having it as an alternative to craft your own furniture, or offering different styles through the Crown Store.
Sure thing buddy.
The point is that you can do it both ways. Ingame and crown store.0 -
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✭Either way I know that there isn't a single person in ESO who hasn't at one point wished that a piece of their gear looked different2 -
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Do you remember the huge thread about housing? I do. People expected and assumed and suggested they make it monetized somehow. What did ZOS decide to do? They'll make it base game like it should be.
I get it's a business, but common sense does have its place.
Housing will be monetized. They just didn't tell us how , yet.
Although a few pieces of furniture already had their Crown Store picture datamined, so it can be the most simple (and my preferred) road of having it as an alternative to craft your own furniture, or offering different styles through the Crown Store.
Sure thing buddy.
The point is that you can do it both ways. Ingame and crown store.
That didn't really seem to be your point, with the "stop trying to monetize" message. But if you now think it can be done both ways, then sure, that's a better argument than "it can't be monetized". Because one way or another, it will be monetized.
And I'm not sure if "sure thing buddy" is you doubting what I am saying, so I'm just going to leave this here...
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Expecting housing to not be monetized at all is setting yourself up for disappointment.Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
Meet my characters:Command: Do the thing.
Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.1 -
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✭I personally don't see a problem of paying money for these items. If we had to pay for something that would genuinely hurt the way people play the game then we could complain. For example if they just let you buy what ever gear you want for crowns. But for purely cosmetic items and content I see no reason why we should complain about zenimax making money from it0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭If I had a Crown for every post here suggesting a style/motif change ...
... I still wouldn't spend a single one of them on the Crown Casino Crates.Edited by Carbonised on October 26, 2016 8:15PM4 -
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Yeah, right... <_<Shadowasrial wrote: »More money for zenimax = more and better content from zenimaxI am the very model of a scientist Salarian, I've studied species Turian, Asari, and Batarian.
I'm quite good at genetics (as a subset of biology) because I am an expert (which I know is a tautology).
My xenoscience studies range from urban to agrarian, I am the very model of a Scientist Salarian.1 -
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You're kidding, right? You don't think zos is making a profit? I think they are raking it in. Just look around at all the crown store items everyone is riding or wearing, not to mention those you can't see like riding lessons. I'd be willing to bet at least 25-30% of the millions of players (7,000,000 according to Frior) sub just for the craft bag. That is a lot of income. Lot more than they could possible be spending on new content. There have been many recent threads similar to this one, requesting a way to change styles. I also want this. But zos can plant it where the sun doesn't shine before I EVER pay for this.PC/NA/DCBreton Sorcerer Maester.White - BB meets GoT >Master Crafter< { 9 Traits completed 4/23/15 }
TANSTAAFL--->There ain't no such thing as a free lunch.....Robert Heinlein
Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea....Heinlein
All those moments will be lost in time, like tears...in...rain. Time to die. "Blade Runner"
ESO: the game you hate to love and love to hate....( >_<) May RNG be with you (*,_,*)1 -
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TANSTAAFL--->There ain't no such thing as a free lunch.....Robert Heinlein
Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea....Heinlein
All those moments will be lost in time, like tears...in...rain. Time to die. "Blade Runner"
ESO: the game you hate to love and love to hate....( >_<) May RNG be with you (*,_,*)1 -
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✭✭Shadowasrial wrote: »I have no idea but I don't know why they would pass up an idea that would guarantee people would buy crowns
I know you are right, players would pay for this. I just worked too hard for my cash to throw it at a game for the mere sake of vanity.PC/NA/DCBreton Sorcerer Maester.White - BB meets GoT >Master Crafter< { 9 Traits completed 4/23/15 }
TANSTAAFL--->There ain't no such thing as a free lunch.....Robert Heinlein
Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea....Heinlein
All those moments will be lost in time, like tears...in...rain. Time to die. "Blade Runner"
ESO: the game you hate to love and love to hate....( >_<) May RNG be with you (*,_,*)0 -
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No, it's not. That's a false dilemma. Nothing more than an excuse you're using to justify putting everything in the crown store. Much like when barber shops were being discussed as something to add to the game and people were insisting that ZOS would go bankrupt unless they charged everyone $10 each and every time they wanted a haircut.
ZOS doesn't need to gouge people on every single new feature to stay alive. If anything, that will drive people away."He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster...when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss also gazes into you..."1 -
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Do you remember the huge thread about housing? I do. People expected and assumed and suggested they make it monetized somehow. What did ZOS decide to do? They'll make it base game like it should be.
I get it's a business, but common sense does have its place.
Housing will be monetized. They just didn't tell us how , yet.
Although a few pieces of furniture already had their Crown Store picture datamined, so it can be the most simple (and my preferred) road of having it as an alternative to craft your own furniture, or offering different styles through the Crown Store.
Sure thing buddy.
The point is that you can do it both ways. Ingame and crown store.
That didn't really seem to be your point, with the "stop trying to monetize" message. But if you now think it can be done both ways, then sure, that's a better argument than "it can't be monetized". Because one way or another, it will be monetized.
And I'm not sure if "sure thing buddy" is you doubting what I am saying, so I'm just going to leave this here...
*snip*
Expecting housing to not be monetized at all is setting yourself up for disappointment.
I don't think anyone realistically believed housing would be 100% outside the crown store. But the idea of having to buy tokens for something as basic as "transmogs" is akin to saying housing should be 100% crown store and that we should be charged crowns monthly as rent for the houses."He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster...when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss also gazes into you..."0 -
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✭✭✭Ourorboros wrote: »Shadowasrial wrote: »I have no idea but I don't know why they would pass up an idea that would guarantee people would buy crowns
I know you are right, players would pay for this. I just worked too hard for my cash to throw it at a game for the mere sake of vanity.
Haha! Partying!?
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FoolishHuman✭✭✭✭✭If it costs real money they might as well just not add it. It's just a change of style, not something big. Yes, other games have these, but those games also have a gold to store currency exchange, so you can buy transmutation with ingame currency.
Changing appearance should be free or come with ESO+.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭However it works, it shouldn't be based on consumables, it should mirror the rest of the costuming system. High up-front cost, then an unlimited ability to play around with it.Men'Do PC NA AD Khajiit
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Shadowasrial✭✭✭✭✭
✭The way I see it they have multi options they could do this. I never said I wanted to have to pay for transmog stones but I would if I had to. Sure it would be great if they were purchased or farmed in game. The fact is though a lot of the meta builds are followed by 90% of the populace that means that 90% of the population is a copy of eachother at least in appearance. I just thought that being able to change the appearance of crafted gear or gear picked up would increase the diversity in the game. So you the player could make your player look they way you want it to and not be penalized because the armor you crafted is weaker than dropped sets. So that you can feel like your character is yours rather than a copy of someone else's. The player should be able to decide how thier character looks.1 -
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✭✭✭If I have to pay for it, then I'll remain sub-optimal and use crafted sets.Argonian forever1
