Does Anyone Use Just On Bar?

Vaerth

I do not like the weapon swapping very much. Perhaps for it is because of the weapons appearing out of no where like magic lol. Not sure but it bothers me so I have been only using one bar the last few days. Does anyone else here only use on bar? Or for that matter does anyone else wish we have both equipped weapons shown with a toggle option like hide helm?

Might just be me but when I use bow/DW or bow/2H it bothers me that my quiver and now just vanish when I draw my other weapons lol.

WalksonGraves

Terrible players use one bar. You are halving your utility.

magnusthorek

If you're talking about always visible skillbar, I do.

And it's not because I'm a terrible player, that's a preconceived notion. I use because at least 80% of time game change my bars two or three times in a row so I gain some reaction back by seem it on screen.

Not to mention is something handy to focus in case an enemy "blinks too much".

Hamiltonmath

I don't have enough room to put all the skills I want/need on 2 bars, how the heck do you manage with just 1?

VampiricByNature

For console, it is a pain to use both bars efficiently unless you customize your button layout.

If that is not your issue I would suggest swapping to a setup where BIS is a 2 staff combo. Then, you don't have to see weapons go poof and you still get all the utility the elites aim for.

Cryptical

Each of my bars is a different mode of play.
There's topple charge, javelin, sweeps, retribution, radiant for leaping into the fray. And then there's restoring aura, shards, breath, retribution, springs for staying back to watch over my team.

It's console, so the bar swap is sometimes fumbled due to the controller layout. I got one of those elite controllers with a plan for putting the two-button combos onto the extra inputs; synergy and break free and ultimate and swap would use the 4 extras, but I didn't see that capability so I stick with what I've set up and do minimal swapping.

Voxicity

RP problems

failkiwib16_ESO

When I solo content, I tend to use only 1 skill ...due to lazyness. It's good enough for me, and doesn't affect anyone else other than random players who fight the same mob or boss as me. In that case I don't owe them better dps, heal or tanking...

For group play it's a full bar & secondary bar lol

DorianDragonRaze

I use 3 bars on my sorcerer and it is not enough.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

It's a game. You might not see the quiver on your 2H bar, but you also dont see the other 97 pieces of junk armor in your inventory. Otherwise, we would all be running around with moving trucks.

If all you do is Solo and RP, then one bar is plenty. If you plan on running group content or PVP, expect to have a bad time if you don't weapon swap.

DMuehlhausen

WalksonGraves wrote: »

Terrible players use one bar. You are halving your utility.

That is a pretty crappy thing to say. I've never had an issue using just one when I've wanted to. Is it the most effecient no, but assuming they are terrible is the way of thinking that makes the dungeon finder suck as much as it does.

Prof_Bawbag

Lets be honest, for 99% of the PvE content you only need one bar. In fact you could argue you only need 1 spammable skill (puncturing sweep etc), so anyone claiming someone must be terrible because they only use 1 bar 99% of the time, without the author actually stating the mode he games on, have delusions of grandeur or over estimate how difficult this game actually is. PvP and vet dungeons, yeah, he's gonna get destroyed and even with PvP that too is debatable.

In a nutshell: Not everyone just logs in to run vet dungeons.

Annalyse

It depends on the character I am playing, but on a couple of them I do only use one bar. However, I just play solo so I'm not bothered by needing different skill sets for PvP or dungeon runs, and on some characters I am just not interested in using a different weapon. I will occasionally use the Swaps addon to add a skill set that I use more for bosses, rather than having to make another weapon.

I do freely admit that I'm far from the best player, though. On the characters that I use two weapons on I actually play quite badly compared to my others, because I'll often hit the wrong skill thinking I'm on the other weapon in the middle of a fight. This has resulted in death when the skill I wanted was a heal and the skill I cast was not.

Using one bar does not make anyone a terrible player. It is a game, and you play it how you want. I refuse to make cookie cutter builds or play how others deem is the only way to play, which is why I play solo. But I very rarely die and always manage to achieve everything I tackle in PvE so I am happy with that. I prefer to do what I want and have fun because that's what a game should be.

Dragonnord

OMG! Then people ask why they are group-kicked from dungeons, trials or so...

WhiteCoatSyndrome

Cryptical wrote: »

Each of my bars is a different mode of play.
There's topple charge, javelin, sweeps, retribution, radiant for leaping into the fray. And then there's restoring aura, shards, breath, retribution, springs for staying back to watch over my team.

I'm on PC and don't have the controller problem, but pretty much this for my Templar. He only really needs one bar, it's just a different bar when he's in a group vs soloing with very little swapping between. My Sorceress is a different matter, and for her I swap back and forth mid-fight depending on what I need...which is why I keep both of her staves in different styles; it's a visual cue to help remember which bar I'm on.

summitxho

I use one bar, doing Cadwells silver and have never needed the second one, although I am now leveling up skills for the future in case I ever want to try out group play or run into trouble in the future. If your not doing group play where your choice is negatively impacting others, I really do not understand why some feel the need to be such a turd about it.

Cryptical

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

It's a game. You might not see the quiver on your 2H bar, but you also dont see the other 97 pieces of junk armor in your inventory. Otherwise, we would all be running around with moving trucks

Oswald the overladen...
Is that THREE swords? How many bags and sacks?

Is that really a whole chicken?!?!

jarydf

Playing solo I have used one bar for the fun and simplicity of it. I also have played no weapon like punch cat for the fun of it. It is a game. If I had designed eso I would have designed it with one bar but 8 to 10 slots.

Unsent.Soul

DMuehlhausen wrote: »

WalksonGraves wrote: »

Terrible players use one bar. You are halving your utility.

That is a pretty crappy thing to say. I've never had an issue using just one when I've wanted to. Is it the most effecient no, but assuming they are terrible is the way of thinking that makes the dungeon finder suck as much as it does.

It's entirely true though.

If I had the option to have a player in my group with 1 bar vs using both, the player using both bars would be picked every time.

I have an older guy in my guild and just recently he revealed he only uses 1 bar. It's too time consuming and they feel they don't need the 2nd bar. That person doesn't get invited to more intense dungeons/trials. Why should the group gimp themselves?

The whole play how you want is great, if you play entirely by yourself. The moment you join a group, that typically goes out the window.

If it's immersion breaking than what about this?

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

It's a game. You might not see the quiver on your 2H bar, but you also dont see the other 97 pieces of junk armor in your inventory. Otherwise, we would all be running around with moving trucks.

If all you do is Solo and RP, then one bar is plenty. If you plan on running group content or PVP, expect to have a bad time if you don't weapon swap.

Neoealth

As a new player, I'm not sure what you mean about using just 1 bar? Can someone explain. Do you mean the bar where you put your abilities? Because if so, we only have 2 bars right? The reason I am confused is because people are saying they use more than 2 bars.

Sorry for noob question.

purple-magicb16_ESO

WalksonGraves wrote: »

Terrible players use one bar. You are halving your utility.

Agree. Game was developed with secondary (or offhand weapon) skillbars in mind. Not necessarily terrible tho. If you're not using it and succeeding you are one hell of a good player and hats off to you!

Mic1007

Neoealth wrote: »

As a new player, I'm not sure what you mean about using just 1 bar? Can someone explain. Do you mean the bar where you put your abilities? Because if so, we only have 2 bars right? The reason I am confused is because people are saying they use more than 2 bars.

Sorry for noob question.

This thread is about ignoring weapon swap and only using the front bar. Sorcerers have an Ultimate called Overload which can give them access to a third bar.

Neoealth

Mic1007 wrote: »

Neoealth wrote: »

As a new player, I'm not sure what you mean about using just 1 bar? Can someone explain. Do you mean the bar where you put your abilities? Because if so, we only have 2 bars right? The reason I am confused is because people are saying they use more than 2 bars.

Sorry for noob question.

This thread is about ignoring weapon swap and only using the front bar. Sorcerers have an Ultimate called Overload which can give them access to a third bar.

Okay I see, thank you for the clarity.

Prabooo

DMuehlhausen wrote: »

WalksonGraves wrote: »

Terrible players use one bar. You are halving your utility.

That is a pretty crappy thing to say. I've never had an issue using just one when I've wanted to. Is it the most effecient no, but assuming they are terrible is the way of thinking that makes the dungeon finder suck as much as it does.

It is indeed halving your possibilities and I highly doubt you would be competitive in either PvE or PvP

SolarCat02

My tank tends to spend most of her time on one bar, but until last week she only had the one, so it's more a me getting used to having more options for her. Well, plus I have only needed to pull out the restoration staff in two different dungeons, so there is that as well.

My other two characters swap bars frequently as needed. They do tend to linger on one, but switch to the other to refresh buffs before switching back. Which one is primary depends on the group and situation.

I too get frustrated when the bar gets stuck and won't swap right away. I help combat this by trying to keep my buttons lined up in a way that makes sense. For example, on my tank I have both taunts, one per bar, assigned to the same button. For my dps, I have my primary attack for each bar on the same button, my AoEs for each weapon on the same button, and my melee gap closer is the same button as my ranged interrupt. On my healer, my restoration healing ward is on the same button as my favorite self heal on the destruction bar, and my buffs share a button across bars.

This means that I might cast a skill I didn't mean to cast, but at least it does something similar.

Cryptical

Unsent.Soul wrote: »

If I had the option to have a player in my group with 1 bar vs using both, the player using both bars would be picked every time.

I have an older guy in my guild and just recently he revealed he only uses 1 bar. It's too time consuming and they feel they don't need the 2nd bar. That person doesn't get invited to more intense dungeons/trials. Why should the group gimp themselves?

That sorta reads like you stopped inviting him after you found he uses one bar... Almost like you are basing your judgment on his style rather than his ability to meet expectations.

Does he ever get stuck on the wrong bar because of lag or a key press that didn't get sent to the server or get activated twice? I would presume he has never had that issue.

Do you also pass judgment on him for his gear choices because they don't fit your idea of what he should use? Why should the group gimp themselves, amirite?

I will even go so far as to ask if you pass judgment on people under 200 champ points, kicking them based on the number rather than on whether they show they can handle the content? Why should the group gimp themselves with a mere c160 player, amirite?

You've said something that has the appearance of pompous elitism to it.

Khaos_Bane

Hamiltonmath wrote: »

I don't have enough room to put all the skills I want/need on 2 bars, how the heck do you manage with just 1?

This. I want more slots/bars to be more dynamic and adaptable.

WalksonGraves

DMuehlhausen wrote: »

WalksonGraves wrote: »

Terrible players use one bar. You are halving your utility.

That is a pretty crappy thing to say. I've never had an issue using just one when I've wanted to. Is it the most effecient no, but assuming they are terrible is the way of thinking that makes the dungeon finder suck as much as it does.

It's not being mean it's math. You have half as many available skills, there's no positive interpretation of this

Uriel_Nocturne

My Sorc (one of my two Main characters) only uses one bar whenever I'm playing him.

He has two bars filled out, but each bar fills a different roll he plays in Group content.

When he's in DPS mode, he uses one bar. When he's playing Healer, he uses the other.

And you know what, people? None of the people I group with have had a single problem with his efficacy in either of those rolls. We knock out Group Dungeons just fine, and our Undaunted pledges as well.

These posts have the smack of "I think *blah* is the way *blah* class should be played, therefore nothing else will do".

Just because you can't imagine people being effective only using one bar, doesn't mean that they aren't effective.

Tandor

If you solo PvE, the second bar doesn't really need to come into it. I prefer on that basis to keep my multiple characters distinctive, and to adopt a particular weapon/armor style appropriate to each character.

Naturally, if you're an elitist min/maxing group PvE/PvP player then it's another question altogether !

Khaos_Bane

DMuehlhausen wrote: »

WalksonGraves wrote: »

Terrible players use one bar. You are halving your utility.

That is a pretty crappy thing to say. I've never had an issue using just one when I've wanted to. Is it the most effecient no, but assuming they are terrible is the way of thinking that makes the dungeon finder suck as much as it does.

Nobody should be complaining in normal dungeons if you are using one bar or only a couple of skills. If you are running vet dungeons you should be using two bars and decent gear and not be in the dungeon finder.