In player housing, no home system for couples?

Epona222

CarbonX wrote: »

Epona222 wrote: »

I don't understand why you can't make decisions jointly about your in-game home, regardless of who actually has permissions within the limits determined by ZOS.

My husband does not have IRL permission from me to get a life-sized statue of Batman and put it in the middle of the sitting room. I do not have permission from him to keep a miniature horse in the kitchen. I put down a hefty deposit, he pays the mortgage.

If either of you ends up screaming "but it's my house" in game then it does not bode well. Just sort it out amongst yourselves!

I don't get your point. What if IRL the only thing you could do in your house was moving furniture from here to there? Would you be OK with that?

I mean, why I will be able to manage EVERYTHING editable in the house (meaning full access to all features) while she won't? Why she has to be my "friend" if she is my wife?

IRL we don't move furniture from here to there without discussing it first to make sure it works for both of us. I'm genuinely confused about how you run your home tbh.

You could let her buy your joint home on her account btw.

Dragonnord

Epona222 wrote: »

CarbonX wrote: »

Epona222 wrote: »

I don't understand why you can't make decisions jointly about your in-game home, regardless of who actually has permissions within the limits determined by ZOS.

My husband does not have IRL permission from me to get a life-sized statue of Batman and put it in the middle of the sitting room. I do not have permission from him to keep a miniature horse in the kitchen. I put down a hefty deposit, he pays the mortgage.

If either of you ends up screaming "but it's my house" in game then it does not bode well. Just sort it out amongst yourselves!

I don't get your point. What if IRL the only thing you could do in your house was moving furniture from here to there? Would you be OK with that?

I mean, why I will be able to manage EVERYTHING editable in the house (meaning full access to all features) while she won't? Why she has to be my "friend" if she is my wife?

IRL we don't move furniture from here to there without discussing it first to make sure it works for both of us. I'm genuinely confused about how you run your home tbh.

You could let her buy your joint home on her account btw.

Moving furniture was just an example. And not all couples are the same, so don't be confused.

Still, my main question remains about one being able to access ALL and EVERY editable stuff while the other can only be a "friend" in this system.

Elijah_Crow

It's better not to have housing designed for couples. Other wise when she takes that Ring of Mara off, she's taking half your stuff.. HALF! Don't bother putting in a ticket about how your wife stole half your decorations. You aren't getting them back.

Rouven

I think the line will stay where it is for a good reason - which would be the inevitable "he/she deleted all my stuff" or "why is my prized trophy missing - I didn't really look at the bosmer".

Let your spouse take control of your computer in your own house, no one can "check" that - be mindful of account sharing rules. Otherwise your trusted other person (aka friend) can decorate for you etc, that should be sufficient for most purposes.

At this point I'd say register for the test server come january and simply see what's possible and where the limits are?

You can't even share your horse - surely I would give my wife the keys to my Guararri. But I don't have that problem. My wife is not one for fantasy make believe worlds... *sniff*

Epona222

CarbonX wrote: »

Epona222 wrote: »

CarbonX wrote: »

Epona222 wrote: »

I don't understand why you can't make decisions jointly about your in-game home, regardless of who actually has permissions within the limits determined by ZOS.

My husband does not have IRL permission from me to get a life-sized statue of Batman and put it in the middle of the sitting room. I do not have permission from him to keep a miniature horse in the kitchen. I put down a hefty deposit, he pays the mortgage.

If either of you ends up screaming "but it's my house" in game then it does not bode well. Just sort it out amongst yourselves!

I don't get your point. What if IRL the only thing you could do in your house was moving furniture from here to there? Would you be OK with that?

I mean, why I will be able to manage EVERYTHING editable in the house (meaning full access to all features) while she won't? Why she has to be my "friend" if she is my wife?

IRL we don't move furniture from here to there without discussing it first to make sure it works for both of us. I'm genuinely confused about how you run your home tbh.

You could let her buy your joint home on her account btw.

Moving furniture was just an example. And not all couples are the same, son don't be confused.

Still, my main question remains about one being able to access ALL and EVERY editable stuff while the other can only be a "friend" in this system.

Did you have the cheek to call me "son", or was that a typo?

Shimmer

Elijah_Crow wrote: »

It's better not to have housing designed for couples. Other wise when she takes that Ring of Mara off, she's taking half your stuff.. HALF! Don't bother putting in a ticket about how your wife stole half your decorations. You aren't getting them back.

Im taking the cats too!

Tandor

CarbonX wrote: »

Why some of you mention "give full access..." if the most similar thing I read in ZOS article was:

"You can grant trusted friends permission to decorate existing placed items in your home (they cannot add or remove items from your home)".

I didn't real any "full access" anywhere and the above friends permission IS NOT enough for a couple. That is a small feature to move items from here to there.

ZOS, any responses please?

Thanks agaiin.

So you give your items to your partner who places them, and then you move them to where you want them - sounds like a workable partnership to me.

Tandor

CarbonX wrote: »

Epona222 wrote: »

I don't understand why you can't make decisions jointly about your in-game home, regardless of who actually has permissions within the limits determined by ZOS.

My husband does not have IRL permission from me to get a life-sized statue of Batman and put it in the middle of the sitting room. I do not have permission from him to keep a miniature horse in the kitchen. I put down a hefty deposit, he pays the mortgage.

If either of you ends up screaming "but it's my house" in game then it does not bode well. Just sort it out amongst yourselves!

I don't get your point. What if IRL the only thing you could do in your house was moving furniture from here to there? Would you be OK with that?

I mean, why I will be able to manage EVERYTHING editable in the house (meaning full access to all features) while she won't? Why she has to be my "friend" if she is my wife?

Well for one reason, it's not real life. It's a game. Your pixels aren't really married to her pixels, you know.

rotaugen454

There should be a "Friends with Benefits" level for access to your house.

Dragonnord

Epona222 wrote: »

CarbonX wrote: »

Epona222 wrote: »

CarbonX wrote: »

Epona222 wrote: »

I don't understand why you can't make decisions jointly about your in-game home, regardless of who actually has permissions within the limits determined by ZOS.

My husband does not have IRL permission from me to get a life-sized statue of Batman and put it in the middle of the sitting room. I do not have permission from him to keep a miniature horse in the kitchen. I put down a hefty deposit, he pays the mortgage.

If either of you ends up screaming "but it's my house" in game then it does not bode well. Just sort it out amongst yourselves!

I don't get your point. What if IRL the only thing you could do in your house was moving furniture from here to there? Would you be OK with that?

I mean, why I will be able to manage EVERYTHING editable in the house (meaning full access to all features) while she won't? Why she has to be my "friend" if she is my wife?

IRL we don't move furniture from here to there without discussing it first to make sure it works for both of us. I'm genuinely confused about how you run your home tbh.

You could let her buy your joint home on her account btw.

Moving furniture was just an example. And not all couples are the same, son don't be confused.

Still, my main question remains about one being able to access ALL and EVERY editable stuff while the other can only be a "friend" in this system.

Did you have the cheek to call me "son", or was that a typo?

Typo, sorry. Edited.

Epona222

I'm just genuinely surprised that A.) you expect ZOS to let a player have equal control over another player's home - ie. altering stuff on their account, buying stuff, deleting stuff, selling stuff etc. And that B.) You need ZOS to manage that aspect of your relationship and can't come to an agreement between yourselves.

IT'S A GAME.

Slurg

It'll be almost like real life - I pick out all the furniture and decorations, and my husband moves them to where I tell him to put them.

The main difference is there will be no place for me to store my hoarded loot - I'm sure he will be happy about that, but I'm not.

Shimmer

Epona222 wrote: »

I'm just genuinely surprised that A.) you expect ZOS to let a player have equal control over another player's home - ie. altering stuff on their account, buying stuff, deleting stuff, selling stuff etc. And that B.) You need ZOS to manage that aspect of your relationship and can't come to an agreement between yourselves.

IT'S A GAME.

Actually Ive never seen a housing system in ANY game that doesnt give a full access option.

Dragonnord

Epona222 wrote: »

I'm just genuinely surprised that A.) you expect ZOS to let a player have equal control over another player's home - ie. altering stuff on their account, buying stuff, deleting stuff, selling stuff etc. And that B.) You need ZOS to manage that aspect of your relationship and can't come to an agreement between yourselves.

IT'S A GAME.

Obviously you haven't played any other games with housing features.

Epona222

CarbonX wrote: »

Epona222 wrote: »

I'm just genuinely surprised that A.) you expect ZOS to let a player have equal control over another player's home - ie. altering stuff on their account, buying stuff, deleting stuff, selling stuff etc. And that B.) You need ZOS to manage that aspect of your relationship and can't come to an agreement between yourselves.

IT'S A GAME.

Obviously you haven't played any other games with housing features.

No, I've not spent my entire life playing MMOs. Silly me for having better things to worry about, my life has obviously been wasted

Rouven

CarbonX wrote: »

Obviously you haven't played any other games with housing features.

Can you reference which one you are thinking of?

I mean to me it's logical to limit the "administrative rights" I can give away, so if another MMO did that different I would like to look into it.

Pheefs

As I understand it, at the highest Housyness the owner's Beloved can add decorations TO the house & rearrange things...
but not remove anything.

So possibly the suggestion to double up is right, one of you owns the townhouse & the other owns the romantic getaway!
share &share alike, darlings

Dragonnord

Epona222 wrote: »

CarbonX wrote: »

Epona222 wrote: »

I'm just genuinely surprised that A.) you expect ZOS to let a player have equal control over another player's home - ie. altering stuff on their account, buying stuff, deleting stuff, selling stuff etc. And that B.) You need ZOS to manage that aspect of your relationship and can't come to an agreement between yourselves.

IT'S A GAME.

Obviously you haven't played any other games with housing features.

No, I've not spent my entire life playing MMOs. Silly me for having better things to worry about, my life has obviously been wasted

Now you're trying to be smart, first giving a lot of responses in the thread and then stating you don't care about games. LOL!

You stepped in commenting like if you have GREAT experience in what you said when, in fact, you had no clue.

Epona222

Pheefs wrote: »

As I understand it, at the highest Housyness the owner's Beloved can add decorations TO the house & rearrange things...
but not remove anything.

So possibly the suggestion to double up is right, one of you owns the townhouse & the other owns the romantic getaway!
share &share alike, darlings

I wish I'd thought to put it like that, because that is phrased perfectly and exactly what I was getting at, just that I am less tactful.

Shimmer

Rouven wrote: »

CarbonX wrote: »

Obviously you haven't played any other games with housing features.

Can you reference which one you are thinking of?

I mean to me it's logical to limit the "administrative rights" I can give away, so if another MMO did that different I would like to look into it.

SWG, LoTRO, Vanguard are just a few. You had a option to list a player, then give them specific permission. My husband could come in and dump a ton of items for me to place, pick up placed items etc. He could even decorate my homes if i wanted him too.

Dragonnord

Pheefs wrote: »

As I understand it, at the highest Housyness the owner's Beloved can add decorations TO the house & rearrange things...
but not remove anything.

So possibly the suggestion to double up is right, one of you owns the townhouse & the other owns the romantic getaway!
share &share alike, darlings

Can she add her unlocked pets, mounts, etc., etc., etc., to our house? Nope, only I can add my stuff. So still unfair since her stuff remains unseen to others, unless she has a separated house from me, even when we're married in the game.

Korah_Eaglecry

CarbonX wrote: »

DarkLord wrote: »

Yes just give your GF the status of Friend Access (within the Housing UI not the normal Friend List)............and don't forget to buy the Kingsize double bed.

Yeap, I read about the friends access, but that's a "visit-my-house" feature.

I directly mean a house for two persons, for couples, were BOTH are able to live, add furniture, decorate, store stuff, etc.

Thanks.

So have her buy the same house and then the two of you can decorate the two instances so they appear identical. Bam, problem solved.

Dragonnord

If my wife wants to display her stuff, she HAS TO buy another house, even when we're a couple and married in the game and we achieved A LOT of things together.

Unfair.

SolarCat02

I once read of a retired couple who built their dream home. The lower floor was all the shared living space - the living room, dining room, kitchen, etc. Upstairs was separated in half, with separate staircases and a balcony overlooking the living room and foyer. Each half had a bedroom and a master bathroom, one decorated entirely by the husband and the other by the wife.

Over to visit for the first time, a close friend commented that he hadn't realized their marriage was that estranged. Ignoring the friend, the husband leaned over the table towards his wife.

"Your place or mine tonight?"

Epona222

Sylance9 wrote: »

Rouven wrote: »

CarbonX wrote: »

Obviously you haven't played any other games with housing features.

Can you reference which one you are thinking of?

I mean to me it's logical to limit the "administrative rights" I can give away, so if another MMO did that different I would like to look into it.

SWG, LoTRO, Vanguard are just a few. You had a option to list a player, then give them specific permission. My husband could come in and dump a ton of items for me to place, pick up placed items etc. He could even decorate my homes if i wanted him too.

It sounds like you can do the exact same thing here, except she mails items she has crafted to you or gives them to you in the player to player trade screen. You then put them in the house, and she can come in and move them about.

Epona222

CarbonX wrote: »

Pheefs wrote: »

As I understand it, at the highest Housyness the owner's Beloved can add decorations TO the house & rearrange things...
but not remove anything.

So possibly the suggestion to double up is right, one of you owns the townhouse & the other owns the romantic getaway!
share &share alike, darlings

Can she add her unlocked pets, mounts, etc., etc., etc., to our house? Nope, only I can add my stuff. So still unfair since her stuff remains unseen to others, unless she has a separated house from me, even when we're married in the game.

You can have 80 houses between the 2 of you, why are you so fixated on 1, and why is your main home going to be on your account?

As someone else said, one of you have a townhouse, the other one have a rural getaway, that you both share between you!

rotaugen454

ZoS doesn't want to deal with the real world breakups of some couples that play together now. Legal battles over digital housing and items in the house? No thanks.

Rouven

Sylance9 wrote: »

Rouven wrote: »

CarbonX wrote: »

Obviously you haven't played any other games with housing features.

Can you reference which one you are thinking of?

I mean to me it's logical to limit the "administrative rights" I can give away, so if another MMO did that different I would like to look into it.

SWG, LoTRO, Vanguard are just a few. You had a option to list a player, then give them specific permission. My husband could come in and dump a ton of items for me to place, pick up placed items etc. He could even decorate my homes if i wanted him too.

Actually now that you say it - yes in Lotro a very nice person added a mouse with cheese to my place, was a special thing I would not have been able to get.

Other than that (adding items) it sounds like exactly what it will be like here (?)

There has to be some technical side to this, otherwise I'm sure they would have added gifting as well to the store by now.

Dragonnord

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

CarbonX wrote: »

DarkLord wrote: »

Yes just give your GF the status of Friend Access (within the Housing UI not the normal Friend List)............and don't forget to buy the Kingsize double bed.

Yeap, I read about the friends access, but that's a "visit-my-house" feature.

I directly mean a house for two persons, for couples, were BOTH are able to live, add furniture, decorate, store stuff, etc.

Thanks.

So have her buy the same house and then the two of you can decorate the two instances so they appear identical. Bam, problem solved.

Epona222 wrote: »

CarbonX wrote: »

Pheefs wrote: »

As I understand it, at the highest Housyness the owner's Beloved can add decorations TO the house & rearrange things...
but not remove anything.

So possibly the suggestion to double up is right, one of you owns the townhouse & the other owns the romantic getaway!
share &share alike, darlings

Can she add her unlocked pets, mounts, etc., etc., etc., to our house? Nope, only I can add my stuff. So still unfair since her stuff remains unseen to others, unless she has a separated house from me, even when we're married in the game.

You can have 80 houses between the 2 of you, why are you so fixated on 1, and why is your main home going to be on your account?

As someone else said, one of you have a townhouse, the other one have a rural getaway, that you both share between you!

And why are you fixated on trying to make me and my wife do what you would do? Why can't you understand that not all couples work like yours? We want JUST ONE HOUSE, one, not 2 nor 80, one, for BOTH. Is it really that difficult to understand that we want ONE place where we can live and BOTH have FULL access to edit it?

mrdankles

Save a little bit of dignity and at least have a virtual ESO man cave.