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Slimecraw bugged, weak

Cinbri
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Since I afraid that this monster set will be released in it's current bugged and weak state, here is entire thread for it:
1. First and most important: set 2pc passive Minor Berserk is bugged: from pts: 1 tick of sweeps deal 2401 damage, while using Combat Prayer that grant minor berserk buff: 2585, with 2pc Slimecraw that grant Minor Berserk passively only 2420. Slimecraw doesn't grant 8% damage buff passively, it grant like 1% buff. FIX IT
2. Second: Even fixed(if) its 2pc is too situational and weak:
a. In PvE healer will apply minor berserk on DDs, so it has no use in group PvE.
b. In PvP-solo PvE: taking in account that non-bugged damage should be 2585(watch above): 1pc of purple Max Magicka set grant 2460, buffed by combat prayer - 2646 <--- it is already stronger of what Slimecraw 2pc grant in PvE. Next: 1pc of purple Max Magicka and 1pc of spelldamage (Kena): 2533, buffed by combat prayer - 2727. It mean damage in 1pc Max M+1pc spelldamage almost equal to 2pc Slimecraw, and unlike Slimecraw it can be buffed by minor berserk to deal much more damage.
3. To make set viable: use same as what happened with same underrated set - Chudan: leave 1pc bonus as it is but to its 2pc bonus was added Max HP bonus equal to 1pc bonus as it was defensive set. Same with purple Slimecraw - add 1867 Spell and Physical Penetration to 2pc bonus as it is semi-offensive set.
1867 penetration equal to Max Stat 1pc bonus (Kra'gh) and since Slimecraw created for both stamina/magicka builds it should have both of those stats; also magicka builds can't get serious benefits from physical penetration, while stamina builds from magickal penetration; not to mention that penetration not working vs damage shields.
@Wrobel don't release set that is bugged and as weak as old Chudan.
  • Dracane
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    Please buff slimeclaw.
    2 pieces for a buff, that Nightblades get for free :) that's not good.
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  • BohnT
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    Just add a major berserk buff every 15 seconds for 4 seconds while you are in combat
  • susmitds
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    Dracane wrote: »
    Please buff slimeclaw.
    2 pieces for a buff, that Nightblades get for free :) that's not good.

    It's called a class benefit.
    I hate that they are even adding it at all.
  • Anazasi
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    First. The buff may not be applying properly in the combat matrix. I noticed this as well and should be bug reported in game. Second. Please players find a web site that lists all buffs and debuffs, Learn what abilities give the buff or debuffs. This set along with other major beserk set = 25% + 8% = 33% Brutality 20% + 5% = 25% in rough estimates 58% damage increase when combined with others. can be even more when you find raw % increases from class or world lines that increase damage as well such as Were Wolfe which gives a raw 10% un named damage increase along with the brutality buff. I'm just saying theory crafting is fun but buffs are the things that make you God's

    Oh did i just add up a 68% damage increase.........
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    Sounds like a howling good time to me....
  • Arciris
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    The biggest problem I see here is that more and more sets are now granting a Minor/Major buff rather than something unique, like it used to be.
    If the 2pc bonus was a flat +Y% increase damage instead of Minor Berserk, it could then stack and make it a viable option in more situations.
    An example for a revamp to make this Monster Set desirable but not too OP:
    1pc: adds 1064 health (health recovery is just underwhelming in a damage set, while more health is always needed)
    2pc: adds 5% increase damage (no Minor/Major stuff)
    Et voilà! :)
  • Anazasi
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    ABSOLUTELY NOT. IF YOU START GIVING DAMAGE BONUS OUTSIDE OF THE BUFF SYSTEM YOU ARE ONLY FEEDING THE DPS RACE.
  • potirondb16_ESO
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    Anazasi wrote: »
    ABSOLUTELY NOT. IF YOU START GIVING DAMAGE BONUS OUTSIDE OF THE BUFF SYSTEM YOU ARE ONLY FEEDING THE DPS RACE.

    Well... actually there's two way to see it, but I would agree with you that bonus which are entirely link to skillfull behavior Combat Prayer, or Circle of Protection, etc... should not make it Inside the buffing system. But skills which are link to overall combat system, Major/Minor Brutality, Major/Minor Crit should be consider Inside normal trial gear for an increase of performance and slot opening for less powerfull player.

    Also it would be really nice if there was a One Proc per hit max that could be added Inside the game, I don't really like when I'm kill by multiple proc in PVP ... so maybe Watch out for that...
  • DocFrost72
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    susmitds wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    Please buff slimeclaw.
    2 pieces for a buff, that Nightblades get for free :) that's not good.

    It's called a class benefit.
    I hate that they are even adding it at all.

    Class, and any caster you mean :p
  • GreenSoup2HoT
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    Hey i made a similar thread. You may want to check it out.

    I'll link your thread in mine since they are both talk about slimeclaw.

    I agree with you op. Slimeclaw is kind of meh. It needs somthing. I suggested a 1 piece bonus change. You suggested a 2 piece added benifit. I like it.


    My thread is below.

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/294162/slime-claw-monster-set-health-recovery-really#latest
    Edited by GreenSoup2HoT on September 30, 2016 3:48PM
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  • Cinbri
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    I think I need to quote what part of set I mostly worried about:
    Cinbri wrote: »
    set 2pc passive Minor Berserk is bugged: Slimecraw doesn't grant 8% damage buff passively, it grant like 1% buff.

  • IxSTALKERxI
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    Anazasi wrote: »
    This set along with other major beserk set = 25% + 8% = 33% Brutality 20% + 5% = 25% in rough estimates 58% damage increase when combined with others.

    Berserk is no where near comparable to brutality. Damage is calculated from max stat pool and weapon damage, so just increasing weapon damage itself doesn't do much in comparison to Berserk which is a buff on top of everything.

    Anyways they just need to fix the buff on the set so it gives the correct amount, then compare the DPS output to other sets and if it is not competitive change the health recovery bonus to something else.
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