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Official Discussion Thread for "Crown Store Showcase: September 30th, 2016"

  • MissBizz
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    Twilix01 wrote: »
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    Preyfar wrote: »
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    I mentioned the chapter thing to someone today @DocFrost72 .. and they said to me "Oh, well maybe the chapters will be for in crown crates!" (I'm hoping I'm kidding people!) ;)
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/276967/pts-patch-notes-v2-5-1/

    Related to your earlier comment:
    "Upon use, the Grim Harlequin style chapter items are not currently teaching the Grim Harlequin style."

    ZOS has acknowledged the chapter items are there, in game, and there was a big associated with them. So they exist, and can (somehow) be obtained in game. The likely thought is the full motif will be available to purchase as it's a limited time item, so ZOS wants to bank on players paying to get it before it's unobtainable.

    Why they can't update and clarify their position on that...

    Preyfar Tokens to take your werewolf or vampire to max level are in game on the pts. Just because something comes on a template character... doesn't mean much.

    True, true. However, template characters on PTS are given full books, not chapters. So I don't believe that chapters of the Grim Harlequin style are limited to template characters.

    @Twilix01 but then you would think people would have reported how to get them in game... like players reported getting the hollowjack motif...

    I just wish Zos would state if they are exclusive or not, just to stop all this nonsense lol.
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  • Thealteregoroman
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    Grim harlequin will be a crown store only motif?? @ZOS_RichLambert So much for your "do no harm" philosophy, feel free to explain if this is a crown store only motif or not, because this and the xp scrolls in the crown crates goes againsts your so called "philosophy"

    Well, it does no harm. Since motifs and costumes give no bonuses in game, there is effect in regards to "pay to win".

    But a clarification would be nice as to whether or not it is available outside of the crown store.

    This DOES do harm. People enjoy this game for different reasons. Some people play for pvp, some for pve, some for a mix and some play because they love crafting and being able to customize their character. If zenimax is going to push out crown store only motifs, then i'm out. So much for non harm. GG

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  • Pandorii
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    Bwahahaha yall don't know?!?!?!

    Everything MIGHT be in the crates.

    Yall got yo lottery tickets ready?!?!?!

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    OMG lmfao. What is this?!
  • DocFrost72
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    Pandorii wrote: »
    Bwahahaha yall don't know?!?!?!

    Everything MIGHT be in the crates.

    Yall got yo lottery tickets ready?!?!?!

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    OMG lmfao. What is this?!

    Near Camlorn, the wayshrine southwest of that. Walk west to eagle's brook, check for an NPC xD
    Edited by DocFrost72 on September 30, 2016 10:39PM
  • TheSpin
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    Adornment Style Change = Awesome... will buy if priced similar to hairstyle unlocks (as an aside - I want to change the skin/hair color in the future)

    This Motif is one of the coolest I've seen, but motifs cost too much and I'll probably never buy one.

    Owl Mask = Cool and different (I hope I can find a toon that it fits)

    Horse Mounts = never buying another one because the gallop sound gets on my nerves (I want cats!!)

    Also, the polymorphs and personalities might be cool, but I'm guessing they'll cost more than I think they are worth.

    Finally, I can see the appeal of the alliance themed items... probably not something for me, but it's a cool idea (though it would be nice if some of this type of stuff was available in-game, even if it was not as nice and flashy as the store stuff)
  • Silverado
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    Holy balls! I can't wait.
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  • ObsidianKaesken
    So..... how much is that Zombie Horse going to be?

    I NEED TO KNOW THESE THINGS!

    Btw, that video link is broken. Keeps sending me to my Internet provider's web search.
    Edit: Ooooh, I see why it's broken. You put http// instead of http:// to your link so since the colon wasn't in the appropriate spot, it broke.
    Edited by ObsidianKaesken on October 1, 2016 4:00AM
  • Mikazan
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    Commander personality! And it is not in the crate! I REALY cant wait for it!) My character will finaly look as intended! (realy, "Hero" personality is not bad.. But sometimes character acts... strange...)
  • Enodoc
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    senhavran wrote: »
    It was sold for 2 500 crowns last year, I looked on UESP but there is no price there and then I found the price in one of Elloa's video description. :)
    Fixed! Thanks :)
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  • MornaBaine
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    Pandorii wrote: »
    Where are the hairstyles? This month had no new hairstyles or adornments. = (

    THIS. It is still unbelievable to me that they are holding back all those FINISHED hairstyles! And where are new adornments???
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  • Danny231
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    I love that zombie horse I know I'll be getting it!
  • Neirymn
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    Btw, that video link is broken. Keeps sending me to my Internet provider's web search.
    Edit: Ooooh, I see why it's broken. You put http// instead of http:// to your link so since the colon wasn't in the appropriate spot, it broke.

    I fixed the link, sorry! :blush:
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    senhavran wrote: »
    It was sold for 2 500 crowns last year, I looked on UESP but there is no price there and then I found the price in one of Elloa's video description. :)
    Fixed! Thanks :)

    Oh thank you @Enodoc ! :)
  • Lokov
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    ZOS, maybe you better to fix a lot of LAGS at Cyrodiil instead of drawing any nonsense for sale? I understand that it is an additional income, but at you already have lags even in PvE content like VMA.
    I swear, when u guys fix Cyrodiil lags, i will spend money for subscribtion again and costumes, polymorphs, mounts etc.
    I play about two years and I don't see any positive changes. The excellent combat mechanics with big potential but everything ruined with your server lags. It causes bewilderment.
    Edited by Lokov on October 1, 2016 5:51PM
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  • Divil_sp33d
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    Just another polymorph suggestion is to have something like Dringoth's fiery head or something.
  • ParaNostram
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    Rereleasing things that were only available for a limited time eh? Cool. Guess things aren't exclusive, only seasonal.
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  • Mercutio
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    This is the official discussion thread for the blog article Crown Store Showcase: September 30th, 2016.

    It's the season for realm pride and for disguises! There's just the right new stock coming to the Crown Store! Preview it in our latest Crown Store Showcase.

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    Annnddddddd.... my entertainment budget is gone. Lordy y'all have a lot of nice stuff out this month.
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  • AndyTGD
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    Mx13 wrote: »
    ZOS is doing massive free update and a cool free in-game event(free motif included) and people complain about one exclusive crown motif...smh

    On-topic:
    I missed the Scarecrow polymorph last time so im happy to have a chance to get it now :)

    I think some people need to go play Black Desert for a while and they'll see what unfairly leveraging customization for cash really looks like. I've been critical of ZOS since day one, but they are one of the most reasonable MMORPG makers out there when it comes to their cash shop etc.
  • Mercutio
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    Thank you for not making the faction items faction specific, re: war horse, dog, etc. It's little things like that which give me a pleasant experience with the Crown Store. Like the poster above mentioned, if you want to see an egregious Cash Shop check out BDO. TESO's is the best in the business, the best ever imo.

    I hope you consider a sale on Crowns this month.
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  • AndyTGD
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    Yes, and I want them to stay that way. ... That they constantly push the envelope is annoying. Motifs should be available in the game and in the store. I don't even care if there is a delay, introduce them in both places at the same time.

    Yep, generally no disagreement there. I guess I'm concerned with the community's propensity for nit-picking and whining over every single update, even if there is very little disagreeable content to it. Or suddenly getting irked over an issue which has existed for a while now. Case in point, folks who complain that a Crown-Only motif would provide an unfair gold income (crafting-wise) over people with the base game. There are already such things in the game as long as there have been DLC packs. You can go buy the Dark Brotherhood DLC and have motifs which are not available in the base game, and even sell them or their mats for a small fortune of in-game gold. The issue is kinda already here, but I don't generally hear folks complaining about it oddly enough.

    But you're correct, this is a push further in the wrong direction and I am concerned about what ZOS thinks constitutes being unreasonable. Personally, I'm just waiting for housing to determine their trajectory and then I'll have something to complain or congratulate them about. Until I see something properly scary turning up in the Crown Store, I'm going to assume that ZOS, being a western developer and a huge franchise name, will remain more-or-less reasonable out of self-interest. They know full well that being labelled 'pay to win' etc. is basically the kiss of death and realise how western gamers - their core market - will react to it. They will try to push as close as they can to P2W, but they're more likely to care what their target audience thinks than their smaller, primarily Asian counterparts. Nothing surprises me any more, but I'm just taking a 'wait and see' approach to this and giving the developers the benefit of the doubt. For now, at any rate.
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    AndyTGD wrote: »
    ...Nothing surprises me anymore, but I'm just taking a 'wait and see' approach to this and giving the developers the benefit of the doubt. For now, at any rate.

    I think you and Lord Richter make excellent points. And I think there is a direct correlation to the passion with which most ESO fans remain cautious, if optimistic, and the inherent quality of the game.

    And on the other hand are those who simply like to complain on message boards. A rational person can tell the difference.

    I am certainly concerned about the Crown Crates. Anyone with a decent knowledge of MMORPG history would be. Yet I'm also willing to give the devs the benefit of the doubt.

    If they are horrid, I won't buy any. What I won't do is threaten to cancel my sub (just renewed for 6 months yesterday actually), call names, cast aspersions, that sort of nonsense. One must first understand that game devs are just like you and I. They are human beings, and fallible. Like every other person on this planet, they strive for the ideal while still having to live under a roof paid for with practicality.

    I have zero, zero, doubt that any of them like the Crown Crates on a player level. But they have bosses as do we all, and when told 'this is the direction we are going in' they have to toe the line or they'll be replaced by someone who will. No one is indispensable. And they can't very well say "Well yeah, these suck, but don't look at me, it was all Mr. Smith's fault!" or whatever the name of their boss is. They have to take the hit.

    To date they have operated the very best Cash Store I have ever seen in an MMO, bar none. If that changes I will offer constructive criticism on what I don't like and hope maybe it plants a seed in their ear.

    But at the end of the day, ESO is just a game. If you enjoy it, play it, if not then don't.

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  • ObsidianKaesken
    Rereleasing things that were only available for a limited time eh? Cool. Guess things aren't exclusive, only seasonal.

    Well, technically it is a limited time for October...every year.

    A majority of games do returning limited items on a yearly basis because it's part of an event or festival. If you want an official discontinued limited item, then try to obtain one that isn't during a major Holiday or in game event/festival.


    Edit:
    Also, for those constantly complaining to ZoS about fixing lags, glitches, bugs, etc. in the game rather than making these vanity items... According to their Wikipedia page, ZoS employed 250 employee's in 2012. I highly DOUBT all 250 employee's are for vanity designing only. I'm pretty sure there's a group for game design, there's a group for programming, and who knows what else kind of groups there are. But, I for one, can say that I honestly do think they DO fix bugs, lags, glitches, etc. I, along with many others, experienced a glitched quest in the game and it stayed like that for MONTHs (for me, according to a Google search, it was glitched for over a year). Their most recent huge maintenance (that caused several hours of downtime), I noticed that they finally had it fixed and I was able to complete the quest. So just because they don't fix ALL the lags, glitches, bugs, etc. at the snap of your finger doesn't mean that they aren't working on it.
    Edited by ObsidianKaesken on October 2, 2016 8:22PM
  • Deltia
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    list prices......
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  • luen79rwb17_ESO
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    Great items comming. I'm a little concerned about that grim harlequin rumour going on (crown store exclusive).
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