Worst / most underused skill in the game?

Toast_STS

Does anyone use Cauterize?

EnOeZ

Docmandu wrote: »

The award goes to?!

My guess, scalding rune.. unless that's somehow useful in certain PvE situations?

Combat Design and Balance is the most underused skill in the game.
Without a single doubt.

EnOeZ

MissBizz wrote: »

If this were a question for passives I'm pretty sure Snake Blood would be the winner.

This could go to DK's ELDER DRAGON for Class Passives...
4% health recovery for 2CP.

WuffyCerulei

Alucardo wrote: »

Underused? I'd say venom arrow. In a time full of 40 meter radiants, venom arrow is a blessing, yet rarely anyone uses it. It's also useful for stopping an enemy res. Really handy tool.

A LOT of pvpers use this for the poison damage and Major Defile. PVE-wise, focused aim is better.

old_mufasa

UppGRAYxDD wrote: »

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

Radiant Aura

I use that all the time, especially in hvy armor.

Ya I was thinking the same thing.. its has its use's.. I use it on my Vampire,Temp in heavy armor to keep my regen up.. and it works very well...

Xvorg

wolfninja101b14_ESO wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

Underused? I'd say venom arrow. In a time full of 40 meter radiants, venom arrow is a blessing, yet rarely anyone uses it. It's also useful for stopping an enemy res. Really handy tool.

A LOT of pvpers use this for the poison damage and Major Defile. PVE-wise, focused aim is better.

That's Lethal Arrow

Venom Arrow is the other morph of Poison Arrow (not Poison Injection)

CapuchinSeven

psychotic13 wrote: »

Equilibrium is a joke, need to update the mages guild tree and replace this with something more beneficial.

Ones I don't see many people use, hidden blade, guard, invigorating drain? (Vampire move)

Honestly, I think Mage Guild needs Healing Ward in it rather than in restro, and it should be 100% on the player with every cast. It'd mean a lot of us could finally drop restro and use something else for a change.

I also think we need one handed/magic hand as well.

CapuchinSeven

Typhoios wrote: »

Smasherx74 wrote: »

Typhoios wrote: »

Smasherx74 wrote: »

psychotic13 wrote: »

Typhoios wrote: »

Smasherx74 wrote: »

Disagree with everything in this thread. I've effectively used basically all of the skills, including equilibrium back when it increased health regen.

Blood alter also works just fine, it's basically a AOE version of the resto staff skill that gives health back on damage dealt.

You have used Crystal Blast effectively? I don't believe that.

I'd love to see ZOS data on skill usage. I bet Crystal Fragments is chosen by 99% of the Sorc player base.

Quite a few people use it in PvE believe it or not.

Equilibrium on the other hand, @Smasherx74 why mention something that has been changed? It's irrelevant if the skill doesn't do that now..

How's it irrelevant? I was stating when I used it, it was viable. The increase resistance wasn;t technically a nerf either, it's actuaqlly better than the increase health regen since equilibrium doesn't let you get any heals after using it for a certain amount of time.

Equilibrium is still very useful. It basically ensures resources, especially with a heavy healer.

Typhoios wrote: »

Smasherx74 wrote: »

Disagree with everything in this thread. I've effectively used basically all of the skills, including equilibrium back when it increased health regen.

Blood alter also works just fine, it's basically a AOE version of the resto staff skill that gives health back on damage dealt.

You have used Crystal Blast effectively? I don't believe that.

I'd love to see ZOS data on skill usage. I bet Crystal Fragments is chosen by 99% of the Sorc player base.

Yes? It does AOE, I remember leveling up a sorc and using it because I was never able to see the purple glowign effect to know you got an instant cast ready for the other morph.

I'm willing to bet close to 50% of sorc players choose the AOE morph. You obviously don't pay attention to other people very much.

All I see when I see a Sorc hardcasting Frags or using the Crystal Blast morph is a player that is doing subpar dps. That is great that you used the skill to level up, but you can use anything to level up. Including other AoEs that cost less and don't have a cast time. Maybe I should rephrase. I've never seen a good player doing endgame content using Crystal Blast. Your defintion of effective and mine are different it seems. If there are multiple skills you have access to that do the same thing better, then that is not an effective skill.

Your anecdotal argument is irrelevant, you also changed the landscape of this debate by trying to argue the viability of skills rather than how often they are used or how effective they can be.

Didn't know we were having a structured debate. None of us have hard data on underused skills so this whole thread is anecdotal. Next time I'll gather my sources and publish my comment for peer review before posting it.

haha this, I hate it when people go crazy on forums and start yelling about stuff like this.
It's a forum about a game where we have little access to hard data, I'm not writing out my MSc.

Autolycus

Toast_STS wrote: »

Does anyone use Cauterize?

Yes, plenty.

tplink3r1

Joy_Division wrote: »

DK Dragonblood is probably the only skill in the game you need to cast twice in order for it to do its intended function.

"Twice" lol.
I need to cast it at least 3-4 times to get to something near 80% health.

Xvorg

tplink3r1 wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

DK Dragonblood is probably the only skill in the game you need to cast twice in order for it to do its intended function.

"Twice" lol.
I need to cast it at least 3-4 times to get to something near 80% health.

Your fault for not slotting the great skill called cauterize

Pallio

All non-stamina based DK skills.

Docmandu

Pallio wrote: »

All non-stamina based DK skills.

Ok, then Wrobel can safely remove Flappy Wings without problems?!

Docmandu

Was slotting some skills I don't normally use to level them in PvP.. and think Elemental Ring can be added to the list of skills that are useless for PvP.. checked Frost Ring .. 2800 dmg over 10 seconds, lol... silly viper procs do 2-3x the damage instantly.

Guess it's the result of the nerf to the spell from way back when all you saw was Impulse spamming blobs.

Kammakazi

A skill that NOBODY uses?

Equilibrium.

I have NEVER seen anybody use that in PvP or PvE content other than to troll or test something, or show off the skill to other players.

Docmandu

Kammakazi wrote: »

A skill that NOBODY uses?

Equilibrium.

I have NEVER seen anybody use that in PvP or PvE content other than to troll or test something, or show off the skill to other players.

Some stam sorcs use it these days in PvP. Probably copying @fengrush 's build.

jhharvest

Docmandu wrote: »

Kammakazi wrote: »

A skill that NOBODY uses?

Equilibrium.

I have NEVER seen anybody use that in PvP or PvE content other than to troll or test something, or show off the skill to other players.

Some stam sorcs use it these days in PvP. Probably copying @f--- 's build.

I thought the stam sorcs use the sorc class skill Dark Exchange and its morphs?

CasNation

jhharvest wrote: »

Docmandu wrote: »

Kammakazi wrote: »

A skill that NOBODY uses?

Equilibrium.

I have NEVER seen anybody use that in PvP or PvE content other than to troll or test something, or show off the skill to other players.

Some stam sorcs use it these days in PvP. Probably copying @f--- 's build.

I thought the stam sorcs use the sorc class skill Dark Exchange and its morphs?

If you have the bar space, you can combo them and have infinite resource for both stam and mag. The sorc more restores your health and stam but costs mag. Equilibrium costs health and restores mag. Then you just keep looping it.

Docmandu

CasNation wrote: »

jhharvest wrote: »

Docmandu wrote: »

Kammakazi wrote: »

A skill that NOBODY uses?

Equilibrium.

I have NEVER seen anybody use that in PvP or PvE content other than to troll or test something, or show off the skill to other players.

Some stam sorcs use it these days in PvP. Probably copying @f--- 's build.

I thought the stam sorcs use the sorc class skill Dark Exchange and its morphs?

If you have the bar space, you can combo them and have infinite resource for both stam and mag. The sorc more restores your health and stam but costs mag. Equilibrium costs health and restores mag. Then you just keep looping it.

And a sorc has the bar space with the 3rd bar using overload.

Bryanonymous

Barehand punching.

Sallington

I'd say a tie between Radiant Aura and Crystal blast for worst skills.


Most underrated is probably Radiant destruction. It does a lot of damage when the target is in execute range, and not many people know about it.

Asardes

Malubeth/Velidreth proc ... ah, I forgot, that doesn't require skill

Waffennacht

CasNation wrote: »

jhharvest wrote: »

Docmandu wrote: »

Kammakazi wrote: »

A skill that NOBODY uses?

Equilibrium.

I have NEVER seen anybody use that in PvP or PvE content other than to troll or test something, or show off the skill to other players.

Some stam sorcs use it these days in PvP. Probably copying @f--- 's build.

I thought the stam sorcs use the sorc class skill Dark Exchange and its morphs?

If you have the bar space, you can combo them and have infinite resource for both stam and mag. The sorc more restores your health and stam but costs mag. Equilibrium costs health and restores mag. Then you just keep looping it.

Which has tobe group play, no way 1vX would let that happen, or just kill you during

CasNation

Waffennacht wrote: »

CasNation wrote: »

jhharvest wrote: »

Docmandu wrote: »

Kammakazi wrote: »

A skill that NOBODY uses?

Equilibrium.

I have NEVER seen anybody use that in PvP or PvE content other than to troll or test something, or show off the skill to other players.

Some stam sorcs use it these days in PvP. Probably copying @f--- 's build.

I thought the stam sorcs use the sorc class skill Dark Exchange and its morphs?

If you have the bar space, you can combo them and have infinite resource for both stam and mag. The sorc more restores your health and stam but costs mag. Equilibrium costs health and restores mag. Then you just keep looping it.

Which has tobe group play, no way 1vX would let that happen, or just kill you during

Yeah I don't necessarily think it is a very useful combo most of the time, but I can see it being okay in larger fights where you can duck behind cover a bit and recharge while you allies distract.

Noisivid

Sallington wrote: »

I'd say a tie between Radiant Aura and Crystal blast for worst skills.


Most underrated is probably Radiant destruction. It does a lot of damage when the target is in execute range, and not many people know about it.

um.... yeah... [backs away slowly]