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Worst / most underused skill in the game?

Docmandu
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The award goes to?!

My guess, scalding rune.. unless that's somehow useful in certain PvE situations?
  • kylewwefan
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    Blood Alter!
  • Armitas
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    Scalding rune used to be in every magicka dps build too. I think it used to stack or something. There was even an exploit with it where it opened up a window in which you could stack buffs like molten weapons. Now I never see it.

    I just forgot the name but the other mage skill, the other morph of balance used to be big. Now I only hear it mentioned in pvp for blood ports.

    I think mages guild could use a universal magicka gap closer since they don't ever plan on fixing DK chains.
    Edited by Armitas on September 20, 2016 1:03PM
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    Equilibrium ftw
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  • DocFrost72
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    Equilibrium is at least useful for blood ports.

    Most useless? That's a tough one. I'd probably go with rune or equilibrium, though blood altar is a good one too.

    Most underated?Soul trap. Morph it, put it on a tank. Who says it's hard to permablock?
  • Alucardo
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    Underused? I'd say venom arrow. In a time full of 40 meter radiants, venom arrow is a blessing, yet rarely anyone uses it. It's also useful for stopping an enemy res. Really handy tool.
  • Mr_Nobody
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    Eclipse. Anyone remembers that templars have that skill?
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  • Joy_Division
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    That's a tough one.

    Templar Eclipse is a serious contender.
    Templar Heal Ritual is a heal spell that can actually get you and your groupmates killed.
    Templar Radiant Aura is worse than a potion.

    NB Agony is terribad no matter how many PvPers insist on spamming it against me. It has never caused me to die.

    DK Dragonblood is probably the only skill in the game you need to cast twice in order for it to do its intended function.

    Mage's guild Equilibrium was obsoltete the day 1.6 patch came out (and a dubious conceptually to begin with: here have unlimited resources).
    Mage's guild Fire Rune is terribly inefficient. Scalding Rune perhaps the worst morph in the game.

    Undaunted Blood Altar has been a joke since Beta.

    There is not a single ability in the Destruction Staff tree that is anything but boring filler.

    The Restoration staff Siphon Spirit is without a doubt the most inefficient skill in the game and it actually has a cast time!
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  • Katinas
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    Expert Hunter and both of its morphs now seem absolutely out of place and not relevant in any build.
    Blood Altar's passive heal is too weak and synergy too short (because you will be up to full health immediately provided there is a healer) and too situational to make it worth using.
  • Autolycus
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    NB Agony is terribad no matter how many PvPers insist on spamming it against me. It has never caused me to die.

    They're obviously not using it correctly. Agony is one of the best skills for setting up a wombo. If they're trying to kill you with Agony alone, they're doing it wrong. I've lost count of how many people I've killed, even with the killing blow being from Agony. It definitely has no place on this list.

    Equilibrium is a pretty solid candidate for the list. Imho something used primarily for killing yourself is not a useful skill. I'd rather die to a mudcrab - even though it's sometimes the quicker option. Volcanic Rune is way better than Scalding, and has practical uses in pvp and pve alike (even moreso in update 12). Blood Altar is probably the least useful of all I've seen here.

    I think a strong contender is Immovable, since every class has access to the same buffs, and the immovability component of this skill has been broken since the game released 2 1/2 years ago. Completely useless, and a huge waste of resources.
    Edited by Autolycus on September 20, 2016 1:43PM
  • CasNation
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    Hmmm. Scalding rune is up there (volcanic is decent for tanks without good native cc).

    My vote goes to trapping webs though. Used to be a good alternative magicka spam. Now it is a terrible stam aoe. Maybe it is used in pvp though? Not sure.

    I would also vote for silver leash. It is the only non class non weapon dependant gap closer and STILL no one uses it.
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  • Foxic
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    Underrated would have to be scorching flare. Sure it's a niche skill, but in that niche it's devastating
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  • Ilsabet
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    Underused? I'd say venom arrow. In a time full of 40 meter radiants, venom arrow is a blessing, yet rarely anyone uses it. It's also useful for stopping an enemy res. Really handy tool.

    I actually use this one. I love my ranged interrupts. Sometimes I wonder what I'm missing out on by not using Poison Injection though.

    Um... I'm not familiar enough with skills outside of my class/build so I don't have any really good answers to the question. Blood Altar does seem better in concept than in actual usage though.
  • RebornV3x
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    Encase
    trapping webs
    Equilibrium
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  • Zaldan
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    any templar gap closer :(
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  • W0lf_z13
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    for underused skills id say magma shell for magdk ... i mainly see shooting star and devouring swarm or shooting star and leap...Magma shell is an amazing ult
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    Underused? I'd say venom arrow. In a time full of 40 meter radiants, venom arrow is a blessing, yet rarely anyone uses it. It's also useful for stopping an enemy res. Really handy tool.

    I love this move. So many kills from RD spammers. Plus the stopping Rez on the fly. Even use this in maelstrom. Don't think I could even use poison injection now.
    Katinas wrote: »
    Expert Hunter and both of its morphs now seem absolutely out of place and not relevant in any build.
    Blood Altar's passive heal is too weak and synergy too short (because you will be up to full health immediately provided there is a healer) and too situational to make it worth using.

    Expert Hunter just for the crit without potions. Mainly because I use essence of movement. Especially in maelstrom.
  • Neoauspex
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    The Templar heal with a cast time is so worthless that I don't know its name
  • psychotic13
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    Equilibrium is a joke, need to update the mages guild tree and replace this with something more beneficial.

    Ones I don't see many people use, hidden blade, guard, invigorating drain? (Vampire move)
  • W0lf_z13
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    90% of my death recaps have venom arrow in it... i would def say that it is NOT underused
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    Blood alter
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    Baleful mist
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    If this were a question for passives I'm pretty sure Snake Blood would be the winner.
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  • Asardes
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    Katinas wrote: »
    Expert Hunter and both of its morphs now seem absolutely out of place and not relevant in any build.
    Blood Altar's passive heal is too weak and synergy too short (because you will be up to full health immediately provided there is a healer) and too situational to make it worth using.

    You can slot it for the Major Savagery bonus (+10% critical chance) and the +3% weapon damage from the Slayer passive. Also can break people out of stealth if they are really close, though the 6 m radius is way too small.
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  • Smasherx74
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    Disagree with everything in this thread. I've effectively used basically all of the skills, including equilibrium back when it increased health regen.

    Blood alter also works just fine, it's basically a AOE version of the resto staff skill that gives health back on damage dealt.
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  • Totalitarian
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    I must disagree with Siphon Spirit, because it's used in raids by one of the healers.
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    CasNation wrote: »
    Hmmm. Scalding rune is up there (volcanic is decent for tanks without good native cc).

    My vote goes to trapping webs though. Used to be a good alternative magicka spam. Now it is a terrible stam aoe. Maybe it is used in pvp though? Not sure.

    I would also vote for silver leash. It is the only non class non weapon dependant gap closer and STILL no one uses it.

    Nobody uses it because It is terrible at being a gap closer because you have to wait for it to latch before you get the other skill to activate and pull you to them. You could do 3 crit rushes before that thing goes off once.
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  • SirAndy
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    Docmandu wrote: »
    Worst / most underused skill in the game?
    Mine ...
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