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✭✭✭✭✭timidobserver wrote: »Add Undaunted Plunder to vMSA as well.
Hey, you don't even know yet what that is ! Maybe it's a crate with 25 crown store tripots inside !
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✭✭✭✭✭anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »timidobserver wrote: »Add Undaunted Plunder to vMSA as well.
Hey, you don't even know yet what that is ! Maybe it's a crate with 25 crown store tripots inside !
We better settle down. Zos might quickly decide we had a better idea than them and implement one of them instead.
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✭✭✭✭✭anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »timidobserver wrote: »Add Undaunted Plunder to vMSA as well.
Hey, you don't even know yet what that is ! Maybe it's a crate with 25 crown store tripots inside !
We better settle down. Zos might quickly decide we had a better idea than them and implement one of them instead.
Worse... what if "undaunted plunder" is not described in the Natch Potes, and we have to run the vet trials to find out... ???
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✭✭✭✭✭Something tells me this undaunted plunder is a person you can sell your gold rings to for more gold or something like that...Edited by Nifty2g on September 19, 2016 4:34PM#MOREORBS0 -
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✭✭✭✭anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »timidobserver wrote: »Add Undaunted Plunder to vMSA as well.
Hey, you don't even know yet what that is ! Maybe it's a crate with 25 crown store tripots inside !
It doesn't really matter what it is? Any kind of incentive would get me doing vMSA again.V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
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✭✭Something tells me this undaunted plunder is a person you can sell your gold rings to for more gold or something like that...
It just cannot be that, it cannot be anything that you just vendor for gold or such a thing because that is just adding hundreds of millions of gold to the economy out of nowhere, hello inflation.
It needs to be something that we can swap for an item with another player, for example you swap 1 Undaunted Plunder for 1 Tempering Alloy (or whatever) at the vendor which you can then sell to another player, but even that causes issues.
It's a really fine thing, it'd be nice if you could use it to make an item BoE or something but that can't happen either really.
Can't wait to find out!
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✭✭✭✭✭timidobserver wrote: »anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »timidobserver wrote: »Add Undaunted Plunder to vMSA as well.
Hey, you don't even know yet what that is ! Maybe it's a crate with 25 crown store tripots inside !
It doesn't really matter what it is? Any kind of incentive would get me doing vMSA again.
If you consider 25xcrown store tripots as an incentive... okay, I'll shut up then
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Well the whole reason they added this is to help cover the costs of running trials with the removal of BoE, so it is going to be something to help us make a profit or give us potions or something like thatPaulington wrote: »Something tells me this undaunted plunder is a person you can sell your gold rings to for more gold or something like that...
It just cannot be that, it cannot be anything that you just vendor for gold or such a thing because that is just adding hundreds of millions of gold to the economy out of nowhere, hello inflation.
It needs to be something that we can swap for an item with another player, for example you swap 1 Undaunted Plunder for 1 Tempering Alloy (or whatever) at the vendor which you can then sell to another player, but even that causes issues.
It's a really fine thing, it'd be nice if you could use it to make an item BoE or something but that can't happen either really.
Can't wait to find out!.
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Well the whole reason they added this is to help cover the costs of running trials with the removal of BoE, so it is going to be something to help us make a profit or give us potions or something like thatPaulington wrote: »Something tells me this undaunted plunder is a person you can sell your gold rings to for more gold or something like that...
It just cannot be that, it cannot be anything that you just vendor for gold or such a thing because that is just adding hundreds of millions of gold to the economy out of nowhere, hello inflation.
It needs to be something that we can swap for an item with another player, for example you swap 1 Undaunted Plunder for 1 Tempering Alloy (or whatever) at the vendor which you can then sell to another player, but even that causes issues.
It's a really fine thing, it'd be nice if you could use it to make an item BoE or something but that can't happen either really.
Can't wait to find out!.
Yes, giving us items I can agree with, such as tripots/Columbine etc as it means we can sell them for gold but they can't just let us add hundreds of millions of gold to the economy from nowhere.
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✭✭✭✭✭Paulington wrote: »It just cannot be that, it cannot be anything that you just vendor for gold or such a thing because that is just adding hundreds of millions of gold to the economy out of nowhere, hello inflation.
I never had the feeling that ZOS cared much about inflation. They've been adding sources of gold again and again (dailies, justice, DB, etc.) without adding extra gold sinks.
Maybe they think the economy balances itself automatically (via inflation), which is not wrong actually.
Maybe housing will be a huge gold sink ?
I can't wait either !!
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✭Khajiit is dying with the suspense! Just a sneak peek... please?
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✭✭✭✭✭OneKhajiitCrimeWave wrote: »Khajiit is dying with the suspense! Just a sneak peek... please?
Does this require the beg emote?
I'm 150% sure that Gina is ROLFHAO reading our hyped nonsense
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✭anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »OneKhajiitCrimeWave wrote: »Khajiit is dying with the suspense! Just a sneak peek... please?
Does this require the beg emote?
I'm 150% sure that Gina is ROLFHAO reading our hyped nonsense
That may be... but the hype is good yes?
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✭✭Paulington wrote: »Something tells me this undaunted plunder is a person you can sell your gold rings to for more gold or something like that...
It just cannot be that, it cannot be anything that you just vendor for gold or such a thing because that is just adding hundreds of millions of gold to the economy out of nowhere, hello inflation.
It needs to be something that we can swap for an item with another player, for example you swap 1 Undaunted Plunder for 1 Tempering Alloy (or whatever) at the vendor which you can then sell to another player, but even that causes issues.
It's a really fine thing, it'd be nice if you could use it to make an item BoE or something but that can't happen either really.
Can't wait to find out!.
It's gotta be simpler than what you propose. That would require way too much work and speccing to be down between PTS incremental patches based upon feedback. It will be something simple just like a high value drop to be vendored or simply a large gold amount.
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✭✭✭I just went in-game to look at Prosperous. Green gives +4% bonus to gold looted from enemies. But the gold looted from enemies would be insubstantial if boosted by 200%, would it not? Perhaps I'm misunderstanding. It's such a terrible trait and completely unusable at endgame at any time that I'd not even considered how it worked, but it's even more awful than I thought.
The weird thing is leveling a new alt actually gets you pretty good gold gains compared to what you'd usually be doing at endgame.0 -
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Could you please get rid of the unrealistic 300 CP template and just give us cap already?
It's kind of hard to test something that doesn't reflect Live. The majority of "endgame" are way past the cap. If you are worried about people who don't have cap, they are not forced to max their CP. They can just add what they have on Live. EU always has the better PTS experience as they get the updated changes, extra sets that you left out along with other things. NA on the other hand gets a very incomplete testing experience. Again, please give us maxed templates.Edited by Xael on September 19, 2016 5:01PMI got killed in pvp, nerf everything...0 -
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✭✭Paulington wrote: »Something tells me this undaunted plunder is a person you can sell your gold rings to for more gold or something like that...
It just cannot be that, it cannot be anything that you just vendor for gold or such a thing because that is just adding hundreds of millions of gold to the economy out of nowhere, hello inflation.
It needs to be something that we can swap for an item with another player, for example you swap 1 Undaunted Plunder for 1 Tempering Alloy (or whatever) at the vendor which you can then sell to another player, but even that causes issues.
It's a really fine thing, it'd be nice if you could use it to make an item BoE or something but that can't happen either really.
Can't wait to find out!.
It's gotta be simpler than what you propose. That would require way too much work and speccing to be down between PTS incremental patches based upon feedback. It will be something simple just like a high value drop to be vendored or simply a large gold amount.
I do agree, it has to be a simple solution but the only simple solution I can see is bad for the game as a whole. Allowing us to print money by running veteran Trials is not a good idea.
Exchange it for items? Sure, that's no problem. Printing money? Bad idea.0 -
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Selling a worthless gold ring you get from a trial for 5,000 gold to a special vendor is a bad idea? I dont see how, good way to make gold without needing to go farm and if you do nothing but raid then you can supply yourself with what is needed. Whatever it is, it is a step in the right directionPaulington wrote: »Paulington wrote: »Something tells me this undaunted plunder is a person you can sell your gold rings to for more gold or something like that...
It just cannot be that, it cannot be anything that you just vendor for gold or such a thing because that is just adding hundreds of millions of gold to the economy out of nowhere, hello inflation.
It needs to be something that we can swap for an item with another player, for example you swap 1 Undaunted Plunder for 1 Tempering Alloy (or whatever) at the vendor which you can then sell to another player, but even that causes issues.
It's a really fine thing, it'd be nice if you could use it to make an item BoE or something but that can't happen either really.
Can't wait to find out!.
It's gotta be simpler than what you propose. That would require way too much work and speccing to be down between PTS incremental patches based upon feedback. It will be something simple just like a high value drop to be vendored or simply a large gold amount.
I do agree, it has to be a simple solution but the only simple solution I can see is bad for the game as a whole. Allowing us to print money by running veteran Trials is not a good idea.
Exchange it for items? Sure, that's no problem. Printing money? Bad idea.
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✭✭✭✭✭Paulington wrote: »Something tells me this undaunted plunder is a person you can sell your gold rings to for more gold or something like that...
It just cannot be that, it cannot be anything that you just vendor for gold or such a thing because that is just adding hundreds of millions of gold to the economy out of nowhere, hello inflation.
It needs to be something that we can swap for an item with another player, for example you swap 1 Undaunted Plunder for 1 Tempering Alloy (or whatever) at the vendor which you can then sell to another player, but even that causes issues.
It's a really fine thing, it'd be nice if you could use it to make an item BoE or something but that can't happen either really.
Can't wait to find out!.
It's gotta be simpler than what you propose. That would require way too much work and speccing to be down between PTS incremental patches based upon feedback. It will be something simple just like a high value drop to be vendored or simply a large gold amount.
Tradable container that has a random set piece, maybe? If you open, the piece is bound to you (and you can trade within your group if in the dungeon). Otherwise, you can sell? Just a guess.Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
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Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
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✭✭Paulington wrote: »Something tells me this undaunted plunder is a person you can sell your gold rings to for more gold or something like that...
It just cannot be that, it cannot be anything that you just vendor for gold or such a thing because that is just adding hundreds of millions of gold to the economy out of nowhere, hello inflation.
It needs to be something that we can swap for an item with another player, for example you swap 1 Undaunted Plunder for 1 Tempering Alloy (or whatever) at the vendor which you can then sell to another player, but even that causes issues.
It's a really fine thing, it'd be nice if you could use it to make an item BoE or something but that can't happen either really.
Can't wait to find out!.
It's gotta be simpler than what you propose. That would require way too much work and speccing to be down between PTS incremental patches based upon feedback. It will be something simple just like a high value drop to be vendored or simply a large gold amount.
Tradable container that has a random set piece, maybe? If you open, the piece is bound to you (and you can trade within your group if in the dungeon). Otherwise, you can sell? Just a guess.
That's a good "simple" idea. That "just" a new item and a level list.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Selling a worthless gold ring you get from a trial for 5,000 gold to a special vendor is a bad idea? I dont see how, good way to make gold without needing to go farm and if you do nothing but raid then you can supply yourself with what is needed. Whatever it is, it is a step in the right direction
In the short term, yes, but sooner or later - and probably quite soon - your "gain" would be caught up by inflation. A 15K reward that helps you finance 15K potions is fine but if in two weeks your potions cost 20K instead of 15K (which is bound to happen if there's more gold injected into the economy) then your problem is not solved at all.
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✭✭✭✭✭That's a good "simple" idea. That "just" a new item and a level list.
That's a *horrible* idea ! I hate RNG boxes - in the game too, not only in the crown store !
But, yeah, if they gave for instance the gold jewelry pieces from the overland sets, which raiders could then sell to the rest of the players, that would be nice imho.
EDIT : thinking about it, in fact no, it's better if we get those rings from the Cyrodiil vendor, because that's a gold sink.
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It could be something that lets you get all the new items they added into trials from a reward from doing a daily trial or something that comes in BoE?anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »That's a good "simple" idea. That "just" a new item and a level list.
That's a *horrible* idea ! I hate RNG boxes - in the game too, not only in the crown store !
But, yeah, if they gave for instance the gold jewelry pieces from the overland sets, which raiders could then sell to the rest of the players, that would be nice imho.
EDIT : thinking about it, in fact no, it's better if we get those rings from the Cyrodiil vendor, because that's a gold sink.
Which would be these
Aetherian Archive: Healing Mage, Quick Serpent, Defending Warrior
Hel Ra Citadel: Destruction Mage, Poisonous Serpent, Berserking Warrior
Maw of Lorkhaj: Twilight Remedy, Moondancer, Roar of Alkosh, Lunar Bastion
Sanctum Ophidia: Wise Mage, Twice-Fanged Serpent, Immortal Warrior
Aetherian Archive / Hel Ra Citadel / Sanctum Ophidia: Infallible Mage, Vicious Serpent, Eternal Warrior
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