Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Now if only BoL had increasing cost like dodge roll or streak to promote intelligent gameplay instead of mindless spamming.
Edit: hell, give increased cost to any skill repeated within 2 seconds
That would simply not work for most classes as eso simply does not offer enough skills. Sadly.
Edit on topic: This vid is the perfect showcase whats wrong with esos pvp and especially the healing system. Hold block while mashing bol button. Smartheals empower bad gameplay like this. Ban smart healing.
This is something I find quite irrational. If someone builds there toon to do one thing, that is bad? He is not going to kill anyone. His spell damage is garbage. It is like if you don't spec into straight dps, noone respects you.
On topic, this is great, I never though of using BS on a temp, makes sense though, you need the stam regen in PvP and the extra resist and ultimate for remeberance is great too. To bad I usually run spc and trans with the master resto.
It's not bad when someone uses the tools given to him but when the wrong tools are available.
It's impossible to make it require targeting. If anyone wanted to play a tab target game they wouldn't be playing this as their main game, and that goes for everyone. The only other option is ground target and no one ever called Healing Springs skillful have they. It's time to accept that you play a game where the most viable option is to find your best ability and use it as much as possible.
I must have missed the part where healing is just the same as killing people and you should be forced to do some kind of street fighter combo to self heal. How dare he be able to not die to 2 dps?? Wat?Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Now if only BoL had increasing cost like dodge roll or streak to promote intelligent gameplay instead of mindless spamming.
Edit: hell, give increased cost to any skill repeated within 2 seconds
That would simply not work for most classes as eso simply does not offer enough skills. Sadly.
Edit on topic: This vid is the perfect showcase whats wrong with esos pvp and especially the healing system. Hold block while mashing bol button. Smartheals empower bad gameplay like this. Ban smart healing.
This is something I find quite irrational. If someone builds there toon to do one thing, that is bad? He is not going to kill anyone. His spell damage is garbage. It is like if you don't spec into straight dps, noone respects you.
It has nothing to do with dps or healing. It´s specifically smarthealing which removes any form of skill from healing at all.
I wouldn´t have a problem with the showcased gameplay if the games most efficient way to deal damage was holding block becoming immune to most CC, while pressing one damaging ability rapidly with the game choosing the correct target in range for me.
I do think it´s problematic if a person effectively using three buttons in theory not even required to move or aim at all is able hardcounter atleast two damagedealers with a proper roation involving multiple skills +character movement and targetting.
On a sidenote: If he manages to find the button for radiant glory/destruction he IS going to kill people even with base spelldmg.
The best ones were the roller blades who complained about overload.Reminds me of when Magic Sorcs were "cancer" in 1.6 keeping the Stam NB horde in check.
Even to this day, I get called FOTM cheese sorc by some Stam user running none other then Velidreth.... like seriously man.
HoloYoitsu wrote: »Nice tanking. It's not even a 50k hp trollplar, I don't know what people are complaining about. Just a solid raid heal build.
Stamtard meta is more what's wrong with pvp than mag Templars healing and doing 0 dps.
HoloYoitsu wrote: »I must have missed the part where healing is just the same as killing people and you should be forced to do some kind of street fighter combo to self heal. How dare he be able to not die to 2 dps?? Wat?Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Now if only BoL had increasing cost like dodge roll or streak to promote intelligent gameplay instead of mindless spamming.
Edit: hell, give increased cost to any skill repeated within 2 seconds
That would simply not work for most classes as eso simply does not offer enough skills. Sadly.
Edit on topic: This vid is the perfect showcase whats wrong with esos pvp and especially the healing system. Hold block while mashing bol button. Smartheals empower bad gameplay like this. Ban smart healing.
This is something I find quite irrational. If someone builds there toon to do one thing, that is bad? He is not going to kill anyone. His spell damage is garbage. It is like if you don't spec into straight dps, noone respects you.
It has nothing to do with dps or healing. It´s specifically smarthealing which removes any form of skill from healing at all.
I wouldn´t have a problem with the showcased gameplay if the games most efficient way to deal damage was holding block becoming immune to most CC, while pressing one damaging ability rapidly with the game choosing the correct target in range for me.
I do think it´s problematic if a person effectively using three buttons in theory not even required to move or aim at all is able hardcounter atleast two damagedealers with a proper roation involving multiple skills +character movement and targetting.
On a sidenote: If he manages to find the button for radiant glory/destruction he IS going to kill people even with base spelldmg.
Someone who dies to a low spell dmg Jesus beam was prolly gona die anyway. Tho I would be intrigued to learn the rotation for the permablock-jesusbeam-spamming build.
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Now if only BoL had increasing cost like dodge roll or streak to promote intelligent gameplay instead of mindless spamming.
Edit: hell, give increased cost to any skill repeated within 2 seconds
That would simply not work for most classes as eso simply does not offer enough skills. Sadly.
Edit on topic: This vid is the perfect showcase whats wrong with esos pvp and especially the healing system. Hold block while mashing bol button. Smartheals empower bad gameplay like this. Ban smart healing.
This is something I find quite irrational. If someone builds there toon to do one thing, that is bad? He is not going to kill anyone. His spell damage is garbage. It is like if you don't spec into straight dps, noone respects you.
On topic, this is great, I never though of using BS on a temp, makes sense though, you need the stam regen in PvP and the extra resist and ultimate for remeberance is great too. To bad I usually run spc and trans with the master resto.
It's not bad when someone uses the tools given to him but when the wrong tools are available.
It's impossible to make it require targeting. If anyone wanted to play a tab target game they wouldn't be playing this as their main game, and that goes for everyone. The only other option is ground target and no one ever called Healing Springs skillful have they. It's time to accept that you play a game where the most viable option is to find your best ability and use it as much as possible.
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Now if only BoL had increasing cost like dodge roll or streak to promote intelligent gameplay instead of mindless spamming.
Edit: hell, give increased cost to any skill repeated within 2 seconds
That would simply not work for most classes as eso simply does not offer enough skills. Sadly.
Edit on topic: This vid is the perfect showcase whats wrong with esos pvp and especially the healing system. Hold block while mashing bol button. Smartheals empower bad gameplay like this. Ban smart healing.
This is something I find quite irrational. If someone builds there toon to do one thing, that is bad? He is not going to kill anyone. His spell damage is garbage. It is like if you don't spec into straight dps, noone respects you.
On topic, this is great, I never though of using BS on a temp, makes sense though, you need the stam regen in PvP and the extra resist and ultimate for remeberance is great too. To bad I usually run spc and trans with the master resto.
It's not bad when someone uses the tools given to him but when the wrong tools are available.
It's impossible to make it require targeting. If anyone wanted to play a tab target game they wouldn't be playing this as their main game, and that goes for everyone. The only other option is ground target and no one ever called Healing Springs skillful have they. It's time to accept that you play a game where the most viable option is to find your best ability and use it as much as possible.
Just wish we could make a list of who we want smart heals to ignore. For example, the jerk in zone chat could have his name added to the list and never recieve heals.
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Now if only BoL had increasing cost like dodge roll or streak to promote intelligent gameplay instead of mindless spamming.
Edit: hell, give increased cost to any skill repeated within 2 seconds
That would simply not work for most classes as eso simply does not offer enough skills. Sadly.
Edit on topic: This vid is the perfect showcase whats wrong with esos pvp and especially the healing system. Hold block while mashing bol button. Smartheals empower bad gameplay like this. Ban smart healing.
This is something I find quite irrational. If someone builds there toon to do one thing, that is bad? He is not going to kill anyone. His spell damage is garbage. It is like if you don't spec into straight dps, noone respects you.
On topic, this is great, I never though of using BS on a temp, makes sense though, you need the stam regen in PvP and the extra resist and ultimate for remeberance is great too. To bad I usually run spc and trans with the master resto.
No issue with self heals? Except the part where you said you think it's a problem if a healer "is able hardcounter atleast two damagedealers" by healing. You didn't specify who is being healed, going off the video that's full of the OP healing himself through a lot of punishment, one naturally assumes you are referring to self healing. please consider that before getting baptized in the Dead Sea.HoloYoitsu wrote: »I must have missed the part where healing is just the same as killing people and you should be forced to do some kind of street fighter combo to self heal. How dare he be able to not die to 2 dps?? Wat?Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Now if only BoL had increasing cost like dodge roll or streak to promote intelligent gameplay instead of mindless spamming.
Edit: hell, give increased cost to any skill repeated within 2 seconds
That would simply not work for most classes as eso simply does not offer enough skills. Sadly.
Edit on topic: This vid is the perfect showcase whats wrong with esos pvp and especially the healing system. Hold block while mashing bol button. Smartheals empower bad gameplay like this. Ban smart healing.
This is something I find quite irrational. If someone builds there toon to do one thing, that is bad? He is not going to kill anyone. His spell damage is garbage. It is like if you don't spec into straight dps, noone respects you.
It has nothing to do with dps or healing. It´s specifically smarthealing which removes any form of skill from healing at all.
I wouldn´t have a problem with the showcased gameplay if the games most efficient way to deal damage was holding block becoming immune to most CC, while pressing one damaging ability rapidly with the game choosing the correct target in range for me.
I do think it´s problematic if a person effectively using three buttons in theory not even required to move or aim at all is able hardcounter atleast two damagedealers with a proper roation involving multiple skills +character movement and targetting.
On a sidenote: If he manages to find the button for radiant glory/destruction he IS going to kill people even with base spelldmg.
Someone who dies to a low spell dmg Jesus beam was prolly gona die anyway. Tho I would be intrigued to learn the rotation for the permablock-jesusbeam-spamming build.
You have serious problems with your reading comprehension do you? I have no issue with selfheals. What i have issues with is that smartheals effectively keep everyone alive in a circle around you with the basic requirement of only spamming the heal button.
If you ever played a game where the task of healing players required any form of positioning and overview of the fight - or even (god forbid) targeting your allies - you would understand the point i´m trying to make.
HoloYoitsu wrote: »No issue with self heals? Except the part where you said you think it's a problem if a healer "is able hardcounter atleast two damagedealers" by healing. You didn't specify who is being healed, going off the video that's full of the OP healing himself through a lot of punishment, one naturally assumes you are referring to self healing. please consider that before getting baptized in the Dead Sea.HoloYoitsu wrote: »I must have missed the part where healing is just the same as killing people and you should be forced to do some kind of street fighter combo to self heal. How dare he be able to not die to 2 dps?? Wat?Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Now if only BoL had increasing cost like dodge roll or streak to promote intelligent gameplay instead of mindless spamming.
Edit: hell, give increased cost to any skill repeated within 2 seconds
That would simply not work for most classes as eso simply does not offer enough skills. Sadly.
Edit on topic: This vid is the perfect showcase whats wrong with esos pvp and especially the healing system. Hold block while mashing bol button. Smartheals empower bad gameplay like this. Ban smart healing.
This is something I find quite irrational. If someone builds there toon to do one thing, that is bad? He is not going to kill anyone. His spell damage is garbage. It is like if you don't spec into straight dps, noone respects you.
It has nothing to do with dps or healing. It´s specifically smarthealing which removes any form of skill from healing at all.
I wouldn´t have a problem with the showcased gameplay if the games most efficient way to deal damage was holding block becoming immune to most CC, while pressing one damaging ability rapidly with the game choosing the correct target in range for me.
I do think it´s problematic if a person effectively using three buttons in theory not even required to move or aim at all is able hardcounter atleast two damagedealers with a proper roation involving multiple skills +character movement and targetting.
On a sidenote: If he manages to find the button for radiant glory/destruction he IS going to kill people even with base spelldmg.
Someone who dies to a low spell dmg Jesus beam was prolly gona die anyway. Tho I would be intrigued to learn the rotation for the permablock-jesusbeam-spamming build.
You have serious problems with your reading comprehension do you? I have no issue with selfheals. What i have issues with is that smartheals effectively keep everyone alive in a circle around you with the basic requirement of only spamming the heal button.
If you ever played a game where the task of healing players required any form of positioning and overview of the fight - or even (god forbid) targeting your allies - you would understand the point i´m trying to make.
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Now if only BoL had increasing cost like dodge roll or streak to promote intelligent gameplay instead of mindless spamming.
Edit: hell, give increased cost to any skill repeated within 2 seconds
That would simply not work for most classes as eso simply does not offer enough skills. Sadly.
Edit on topic: This vid is the perfect showcase whats wrong with esos pvp and especially the healing system. Hold block while mashing bol button. Smartheals empower bad gameplay like this. Ban smart healing.
This is something I find quite irrational. If someone builds there toon to do one thing, that is bad? He is not going to kill anyone. His spell damage is garbage. It is like if you don't spec into straight dps, noone respects you.
On topic, this is great, I never though of using BS on a temp, makes sense though, you need the stam regen in PvP and the extra resist and ultimate for remeberance is great too. To bad I usually run spc and trans with the master resto.
It's not bad when someone uses the tools given to him but when the wrong tools are available.
It's impossible to make it require targeting. If anyone wanted to play a tab target game they wouldn't be playing this as their main game, and that goes for everyone. The only other option is ground target and no one ever called Healing Springs skillful have they. It's time to accept that you play a game where the most viable option is to find your best ability and use it as much as possible.
Just wish we could make a list of who we want smart heals to ignore. For example, the jerk in zone chat could have his name added to the list and never recieve heals.
A priority would be very nice, but would need to be somewhat complex. I honestly can't tell you how many times I've been at 5% health only to have 4-5 straight BoL's go to other players instead of myself. Other players that I'm not even in a group with.
HoloYoitsu wrote: »No issue with self heals? Except the part where you said you think it's a problem if a healer "is able hardcounter atleast two damagedealers" by healing. You didn't specify who is being healed, going off the video that's full of the OP healing himself through a lot of punishment, one naturally assumes you are referring to self healing. please consider that before getting baptized in the Dead Sea.HoloYoitsu wrote: »I must have missed the part where healing is just the same as killing people and you should be forced to do some kind of street fighter combo to self heal. How dare he be able to not die to 2 dps?? Wat?Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Now if only BoL had increasing cost like dodge roll or streak to promote intelligent gameplay instead of mindless spamming.
Edit: hell, give increased cost to any skill repeated within 2 seconds
That would simply not work for most classes as eso simply does not offer enough skills. Sadly.
Edit on topic: This vid is the perfect showcase whats wrong with esos pvp and especially the healing system. Hold block while mashing bol button. Smartheals empower bad gameplay like this. Ban smart healing.
This is something I find quite irrational. If someone builds there toon to do one thing, that is bad? He is not going to kill anyone. His spell damage is garbage. It is like if you don't spec into straight dps, noone respects you.
It has nothing to do with dps or healing. It´s specifically smarthealing which removes any form of skill from healing at all.
I wouldn´t have a problem with the showcased gameplay if the games most efficient way to deal damage was holding block becoming immune to most CC, while pressing one damaging ability rapidly with the game choosing the correct target in range for me.
I do think it´s problematic if a person effectively using three buttons in theory not even required to move or aim at all is able hardcounter atleast two damagedealers with a proper roation involving multiple skills +character movement and targetting.
On a sidenote: If he manages to find the button for radiant glory/destruction he IS going to kill people even with base spelldmg.
Someone who dies to a low spell dmg Jesus beam was prolly gona die anyway. Tho I would be intrigued to learn the rotation for the permablock-jesusbeam-spamming build.
You have serious problems with your reading comprehension do you? I have no issue with selfheals. What i have issues with is that smartheals effectively keep everyone alive in a circle around you with the basic requirement of only spamming the heal button.
If you ever played a game where the task of healing players required any form of positioning and overview of the fight - or even (god forbid) targeting your allies - you would understand the point i´m trying to make.
Healing cones will do nothing but (re) enforce ball group play and make it mandatory for a least x of the x healers to be walking backwards all the time, oh another couple shuffling along like crabs so all the compass points are covered.
Any smarter healing in lag would just be a joke tbh
and only group healing? hmm ok, you can damage everyone in range of AOE but not heal anyone not in a group.. just sounds like ganker salt
Joy_Division wrote: »I'm not sure it's so easy to change ZoS's healing system and it continues to amazing me the number of people who whine because they can't kill stuff.
The amount of burst in this game is insane and animation cancelling means the rate of incoming damage is far higher and faster than I could tab target people and then actually get a heal on them in the first place. With the crazy AoE and stupid stuff like vicious death and the manner in which people melt, there is no way a system that involved so much micromanagement would be able to keep up.
When damage increases, and it has by a ridiculous amount, healing must keep pace with it. Damage dealers have near infinite sustain, high burst, multiple proc sets, and complain when this damage gets countered by "cancer" builds that involve blocking, healing, shielding, heavy armor. What a bunch of BS. It's the damage builds that are the cancer; it's bad enough they have all that, but they get so much damage avoidance and healing themselves to pair with it.
Now I'm reading that people have issues with templars showing up and healing players not in the group. Too damn bad if you have problems with it. I have a problem with damage dealers showing up and aiding non-group members by crit rushing - dawnbreakering - reverse slicing enemies attacking said non-group members.
Joy_Division wrote: »When damage increases, and it has by a ridiculous amount, healing must keep pace with it. Damage dealers have near infinite sustain, high burst, multiple proc sets, and complain when this damage gets countered by "cancer" builds that involve blocking, healing, shielding, heavy armor. What a bunch of BS. It's the damage builds that are the cancer; it's bad enough they have all that, but they get so much damage avoidance and healing themselves to pair with it.
Now I'm reading that people have issues with templars showing up and healing players not in the group. Too damn bad if you have problems with it. I have a problem with damage dealers showing up and aiding non-group members by crit rushing - dawnbreakering - reverse slicing enemies attacking said non-group members.