Magblade vs stamblade

Ardelli

Ive been playing my stamblade catman and its been nice. Ive started to wonder are magblades any good/better? Survivability is my biggest problem atm so would be nice to hear if staying alive with magblade is easier? Im a solo player.

Thanks

Van_0S

samytheslayer wrote: »

To be honest I do not think there is a mag blade that could challenge my tank 1v1 but on the other hand I find fighting evasion dodge rolling stamblades a challenge 1v1.

What he is saying is that you should stick to your stamblade char.
Almost all magicka classes are less effective than stamina classes in PvP/PvE . (Thanks to worbel<--- Comedian)
In the next patch stamina will be more powerful than magicka and the gap between stamina and magicka will increase.

Stoopid_Nwah

I have stuck with my magicka nbs, even though I have veli, vipers, and the ability to craft eternal hunt. I just don't enjoy the playstyle of stam.

In pve, I would think you may find survivability and utility to be better with magicka nbs compared to stam nbs (especially if you don't have any maelestrom weapons).

In pvp, you have quite a few options for magicka. In general, you could go the ganking or proxy-det bombing route, the sap-tank route/or some heavy armour type build, or you could go the ranged route which plays a bit like a sorc. I have played all of those styles and find each of them to be pretty fun, but the truth is that it's a stam meta and will continue to be next patch. So if you want to have an easier time and have more options for gear sets that do the work for you, stick with stam.

code65536

For PvE or PvP?

Stamina is very powerful in PvP.

Stamina does more damage in PvE.

Magicka has the best survivability in PvE and is the best at disengaging and escaping in PvP.

For solo PvE, magblades are arguably the strongest.

Magblades and stamblades are very different creatures with very different playstyles. Magicka is ranged, has strong self-heal that come from just doing damage, and a lot of mobility. Stamina has a hard-hitting melee in-your-face high-risk/reward playstyle. My recommendation? Start a new character--Dunmer, Altmer, or Breton--and experience magblades. Don't respec your stamblade to a magblade because Khajiit isn't a good magicka race. I have both a magblade and a stamblade, and I've enjoyed them both. But I like my magblade more because it's so versatile.

Oh, and I can solo vet Darkshade on my magblade, but there's no way I can do that on my stamblade.

samytheslayer

To be honest I do not think there is a mag blade that could challenge my tank 1v1 but on the other hand I find fighting evasion dodge rolling stamblades a challenge 1v1.

Nirnrotten

Do you like strawberry milk or chocolate? Right now Stamina is Chocolate Milk if you catch my drift. I run both.

Ardelli

Thanks for the answers! I think ill make new char and make it magblade.

james.resnerb14_ESO

code65536 wrote: »

Stamina does more damage in PvE.

Magicka has the best survivability in PvE and is the best at disengaging and escaping in PvP.

For solo PvE, magblades are arguably the strongest.

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I'd be interested in where I can find more information about builds, skills, etc. for this point of view.

I came back after a long hiatus and found that a StamSorc was far more versatile than my StamBlade.

So I switched to a MagBlade, using a couple of recent popular builds, and it just seemed underpowered and fragile as hell be comparison.

Stoopid_Nwah

james.resnerb14_ESO wrote: »

code65536 wrote: »

Stamina does more damage in PvE.

Magicka has the best survivability in PvE and is the best at disengaging and escaping in PvP.

For solo PvE, magblades are arguably the strongest.

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I'd be interested in where I can find more information about builds, skills, etc. for this point of view.

I came back after a long hiatus and found that a StamSorc was far more versatile than my StamBlade.

So I switched to a MagBlade, using a couple of recent popular builds, and it just seemed underpowered and fragile as hell be comparison.

For pve stuff, check out Machinate's build guides to start. If I'm doing maelstrom, I'll use harness as a panic button and let my swallow soul fill me up on health (I don't run a resto staff). In dungeons and trials, I have healers around, and I just don't stand in red lol.

james.resnerb14_ESO

Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »

james.resnerb14_ESO wrote: »

code65536 wrote: »

Stamina does more damage in PvE.

Magicka has the best survivability in PvE and is the best at disengaging and escaping in PvP.

For solo PvE, magblades are arguably the strongest.

.

I'd be interested in where I can find more information about builds, skills, etc. for this point of view.

I came back after a long hiatus and found that a StamSorc was far more versatile than my StamBlade.

So I switched to a MagBlade, using a couple of recent popular builds, and it just seemed underpowered and fragile as hell be comparison.

For pve stuff, check out Machinate's build guides to start. If I'm doing maelstrom, I'll use harness as a panic button and let my swallow soul fill me up on health (I don't run a resto staff). In dungeons and trials, I have healers around, and I just don't stand in red lol.

How do you use Swallow Soul as an effective heal? Does it require placing a significant amount of CP into the healing skill?

altemriel

magblade can cloak almost infinitely, I love that!

and khajiits have bonus to sneaking, nevermind their crit bonus is only to weapon crit and not also to spell crit, I love the khajiit race, so I run my magblade as a khajiit!

Stoopid_Nwah

james.resnerb14_ESO wrote: »

Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »

james.resnerb14_ESO wrote: »

code65536 wrote: »

Stamina does more damage in PvE.

Magicka has the best survivability in PvE and is the best at disengaging and escaping in PvP.

For solo PvE, magblades are arguably the strongest.

.

I'd be interested in where I can find more information about builds, skills, etc. for this point of view.

I came back after a long hiatus and found that a StamSorc was far more versatile than my StamBlade.

So I switched to a MagBlade, using a couple of recent popular builds, and it just seemed underpowered and fragile as hell be comparison.

For pve stuff, check out Machinate's build guides to start. If I'm doing maelstrom, I'll use harness as a panic button and let my swallow soul fill me up on health (I don't run a resto staff). In dungeons and trials, I have healers around, and I just don't stand in red lol.

How do you use Swallow Soul as an effective heal? Does it require placing a significant amount of CP into the healing skill?

Nope, in pve it ticks high enough that one harness/dampen covers my bar and in those six seconds my health is up. If for some reason I need more healing I'll just pop another harness. For a long time in maelstrom I didn't run harness and just relied on swallow soul and an occasional healing ward, but I found the lag made bar swapping to my heal a bit risky. Also this way I can back bar swords or another destro.

clv

stam and magblade dps is comparable without vma weapons

however magblades have *** tons of utility so there's that

james.resnerb14_ESO

Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »

james.resnerb14_ESO wrote: »

Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »

james.resnerb14_ESO wrote: »

code65536 wrote: »

Stamina does more damage in PvE.

Magicka has the best survivability in PvE and is the best at disengaging and escaping in PvP.

For solo PvE, magblades are arguably the strongest.

.

I'd be interested in where I can find more information about builds, skills, etc. for this point of view.

I came back after a long hiatus and found that a StamSorc was far more versatile than my StamBlade.

So I switched to a MagBlade, using a couple of recent popular builds, and it just seemed underpowered and fragile as hell be comparison.

For pve stuff, check out Machinate's build guides to start. If I'm doing maelstrom, I'll use harness as a panic button and let my swallow soul fill me up on health (I don't run a resto staff). In dungeons and trials, I have healers around, and I just don't stand in red lol.

How do you use Swallow Soul as an effective heal? Does it require placing a significant amount of CP into the healing skill?

Nope, in pve it ticks high enough that one harness/dampen covers my bar and in those six seconds my health is up. If for some reason I need more healing I'll just pop another harness. For a long time in maelstrom I didn't run harness and just relied on swallow soul and an occasional healing ward, but I found the lag made bar swapping to my heal a bit risky. Also this way I can back bar swords or another destro.

OK then I must be something terribly wrong because Swallow Soul seemed to be nothing more than a band-aid on a sucking chest wound for me...

Can you point me to a build that's close to what you run?