Elder Procs Online

Ashnunn

Pvp break down.... wait until your set piece (or pieces, depending on how potato you want to go) proc's and then endlessly spam your excute until you reach your desired result - collect ap

Is it just me or have has the game degraded into who's set proc's first?? and its only going to get worse next patch

#bringbackskill

Master_Kas

I like it. Elder Procs Online: Shuffle Unlimited, perhaps?

Sallington

I'm still waiting for them to go full Wrobel and release a set that has a 1% chance to instantly kill your target when using an execute skill.

LegendaryChef

Go proc or go home.

Jaronking

Its just terrible now in my group of friemeds am the only one who doesn't run a proc.Still wreck the game has gotten ridiculous people just keep light attacking until their procs all procs and if don't they just sit their until it happened.I fought a Magblade yesterday who all he did was heavy attack me to proc red mountain killed the dude three times before it finally proced and killed me.

Asardes

Sallington wrote: »

I'm still waiting for them to go full Wrobel and release a set that has a 1% chance to instantly kill your target when using an execute skill.

Actually lore friendly

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Mehrunes'_Razor

Psilent

Ashnunn wrote: »

Pvp break down.... wait until your set piece (or pieces, depending on how potato you want to go) proc's and then endlessly spam your excute until you reach your desired result - collect ap

Is it just me or have has the game degraded into who's set proc's first?? and its only going to get worse next patch

#bringbackskill

It's PvP, your gonna die. No penalty for dying, just Rez up and get out there and kill a few more players.

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

Psilent wrote: »

Ashnunn wrote: »

Pvp break down.... wait until your set piece (or pieces, depending on how potato you want to go) proc's and then endlessly spam your excute until you reach your desired result - collect ap

Is it just me or have has the game degraded into who's set proc's first?? and its only going to get worse next patch

#bringbackskill

It's PvP, your gonna die. No penalty for dying, just Rez up and get out there and kill a few more players.

It's not about dying. It's about the fight before you die and how enjoyable that is.

Minno

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

Psilent wrote: »

Ashnunn wrote: »

Pvp break down.... wait until your set piece (or pieces, depending on how potato you want to go) proc's and then endlessly spam your excute until you reach your desired result - collect ap

Is it just me or have has the game degraded into who's set proc's first?? and its only going to get worse next patch

#bringbackskill

It's PvP, your gonna die. No penalty for dying, just Rez up and get out there and kill a few more players.

It's not about dying. It's about the fight before you die and how enjoyable that is.

On that note, AD, EP and DC had a mini 3-way battle at ales farm last night in NA.TF. It was very tasty.

Rykmaar

Ashnunn wrote: »

Pvp break down.... wait until your set piece (or pieces, depending on how potato you want to go) proc's and then endlessly spam your excute until you reach your desired result - collect ap

Is it just me or have has the game degraded into who's set proc's first?? and its only going to get worse next patch

#bringbackskill

Nope that's pretty accurate. Stam weapon ults are going to make that *** worse too.. lol don't worry, destro and resto ults are complete garbage because ZoS doesn't have a clue.

Psilent

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

Psilent wrote: »

Ashnunn wrote: »

Pvp break down.... wait until your set piece (or pieces, depending on how potato you want to go) proc's and then endlessly spam your excute until you reach your desired result - collect ap

Is it just me or have has the game degraded into who's set proc's first?? and its only going to get worse next patch

#bringbackskill

It's PvP, your gonna die. No penalty for dying, just Rez up and get out there and kill a few more players.

It's not about dying. It's about the fight before you die and how enjoyable that is.

The OP sounds like he is the type of player to have a very good KDR.

Laugh it off and get back out there! You can always tell yourself "I lost due to a proc, not skill!"

And don't kid yourself most fights nowadays are about who can burst who first. The only difference is "unskilled" players are getting lucky now due to proc chances.

Manoekin

Psilent wrote: »

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

Psilent wrote: »

Ashnunn wrote: »

Pvp break down.... wait until your set piece (or pieces, depending on how potato you want to go) proc's and then endlessly spam your excute until you reach your desired result - collect ap

Is it just me or have has the game degraded into who's set proc's first?? and its only going to get worse next patch

#bringbackskill

It's PvP, your gonna die. No penalty for dying, just Rez up and get out there and kill a few more players.

It's not about dying. It's about the fight before you die and how enjoyable that is.

The OP sounds like he is the type of player to have a very good KDR.

Laugh it off and get back out there! You can always tell yourself "I lost due to a proc, not skill!"

And don't kid yourself most fights nowadays are about who can burst who first. The only difference is "unskilled" players are getting lucky now due to proc chances.

It's still not enjoyable. If the outcome of a fight is decided based on which player has better RNG luck then you've effectively removed the entire purpose of having the fight.

Sallington

Manoekin wrote: »

Psilent wrote: »

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

Psilent wrote: »

Ashnunn wrote: »

Pvp break down.... wait until your set piece (or pieces, depending on how potato you want to go) proc's and then endlessly spam your excute until you reach your desired result - collect ap

Is it just me or have has the game degraded into who's set proc's first?? and its only going to get worse next patch

#bringbackskill

It's PvP, your gonna die. No penalty for dying, just Rez up and get out there and kill a few more players.

It's not about dying. It's about the fight before you die and how enjoyable that is.

The OP sounds like he is the type of player to have a very good KDR.

Laugh it off and get back out there! You can always tell yourself "I lost due to a proc, not skill!"

And don't kid yourself most fights nowadays are about who can burst who first. The only difference is "unskilled" players are getting lucky now due to proc chances.

It's still not enjoyable. If the outcome of a fight is decided based on which player has better RNG luck then you've effectively removed the entire purpose of having the fight.

Elder Cards Online: War Unlimited

EdTerra

lol skill is dying since 1.6 guys...
this is just the state where u don't need skill anymore

Esgameplaya1

Reminds me of Everquest2 when proc gear acquired from dungeons and raid zones ruined pvp, but Sony was much quicker to fix/nerf outrageously broken sets.

The_Duke

As a console peasant Ive only been playing since console launch day, so I can only reference what I have experienced since then. PVP has taken a turn for the worse. The Viper/Veli/RM proc builds are hurting PVP. Battle spirit was introduced to prolong fights but with the stam influenced power creep fights only last secondsl if RNG procs at the same time.

LeifErickson

Sallington wrote: »

I'm still waiting for them to go full Wrobel and release a set that has a 1% chance to instantly kill your target when using an execute skill.

That's in the game already except it is higher than 1%. It's called implosion.

Ashnunn

I don't have an issue with dying, thats part of the game, its the way fights play out that is quickly getting out of control.

Vaoh

The_Duke wrote: »

As a console peasant Ive only been playing since console launch day, so I can only reference what I have experienced since then. PVP has taken a turn for the worse. The Viper/Veli/RM proc builds are hurting PVP. Battle spirit was introduced to prolong fights but with the stam influenced power creep fights only last secondsl if RNG procs at the same time.

For the most part, yeah

Welcome to the meta!

Ever wanted to feel you were great at the game, when internally you know you suck? Ever wanted to 1vX but can't figure out how to kill quickly enough on your tank/healer build? Ever wanted to take down those pesky players running the "weak" classes that 1vX you?

The correct OP setup is as follows:

1) Roll a Stamina character, preferably Nightblade since they are bursty in nature. Along with great passives, they also have access to:
• Incapacitating Strike: Buggy CC, great damage, reduces target's healing taken by 40%, increase your own damage against the target by 20%, guarantees 1-2 hits of Surprise Attack after use, and lowest Ult cost in-game #WorkingAsIntended
• Surprise Attack: High damage, debuff, perfect to spam with procs for unmatched burst. #StrongerThanCruelFlurryInVMA
• Siphoning Attacks: Effectively grants infinite sustain when used correctly, even on a full damage setup with no other source of somewhat-reliable regen. Nice duration, couples well with NB great sustain passives

2) Run this gear:
• 5x Black Rose: Heavy Armor grants massive mitigation, more health, and more healing recieved. This set also grants you a great damage and stat boost, while simultaneously causing the Heavy Armor resource sustain to spike. An all-in-one set. #totallybalanced
• 5x Viper's Sting: Allows a high damage proc every 4 seconds. Can be procced from a Bow when used correctly. Widely know to be too powerful, but everyone is a Stam NB now so what does it matter. Pairs far too well with the bursty attacks of Stam NB. Use Dual Wield for the 4 and 5 piece bonuses. #BalancedAF
• 2x Velidreth: Another set to add to the list of bursty procs you can set off. This set can hit multiple players as well. Good thing ZOS realized it was too strong, and decided to give it a second look to address the burst for next patch!..... and by that, I mean they reduced the cooldown on the proc. -_- #ZOSLogic
• Master Bow: Cast Poison Injection. Deal much more damage from everything = more burst. Why not? Your burst might not have been enough to one-shot that tank

3) Go full damage:
• All Weapon Damage/Max Stam glyphs.
• Your sustain/stats/mitigation is 100% covered thanks to Black Rose+Siphoning Attacks

4) Go be great in PvP! Good thing Stamina is so much stronger than Magicka! If it wasn't, then you'd have to reroll again

*sigh*

In a way, we have 12 Class Specs. Stam/Mag/Hybrid variants of each class. By cutting out Hybrids, this was reduced to 8 Class Specs (less to balance). By One Tamriel, Magicka will practically become unused/unwanted in PvP. If there are only 4/12 Class Specs left to balance between, it is far easier to reach that balance. This is either the current goal, or the Devs are literally this ignorant about the direction of their own game.

Back before Dark Brotherhood, there was a lot of variety as to what players chased me with when I 1vXed. Mag NB was more prominent, but there was a lot more variety in who I fought. This has died overtime since then.

EVERYONE IS RUNNING STAMINA! One Tamriel will make this worse after people are settled in and get bored with weak old Magicka again.

Don't believe what I said in this post? Check out Cyrodiil.

Perhaps you'll get lucky and spot a few Mag NB Bombers or Mag Sorc Negate Monkeys for easy AP. Maybe a Mag DK tank who roots for a living or a Mag Templar who heals everyone he can. When the best these Mag builds do anymore are play as slaves to a group of Stam builds.... I mean cmon now.

QuebraRegra

Sallington wrote: »

I'm still waiting for them to go full Wrobel and release a set that has a 1% chance to instantly kill your target when using an execute skill.

sorry, I couldn't resist

God_flakes

Vaoh wrote: »

The_Duke wrote: »

As a console peasant Ive only been playing since console launch day, so I can only reference what I have experienced since then. PVP has taken a turn for the worse. The Viper/Veli/RM proc builds are hurting PVP. Battle spirit was introduced to prolong fights but with the stam influenced power creep fights only last secondsl if RNG procs at the same time.

For the most part, yeah

Welcome to the meta!

Ever wanted to feel you were great at the game, when internally you know you suck? Ever wanted to 1vX but can't figure out how to kill quickly enough on your tank/healer build? Ever wanted to take down those pesky players running the "weak" classes that 1vX you?

The correct OP setup is as follows:

1) Roll a Stamina character, preferably Nightblade since they are bursty in nature. Along with great passives, they also have access to:
• Incapacitating Strike: Buggy CC, great damage, reduces target's healing taken by 40%, increase your own damage against the target by 20%, guarantees 1-2 hits of Surprise Attack after use, and lowest Ult cost in-game #WorkingAsIntended
• Surprise Attack: High damage, debuff, perfect to spam with procs for unmatched burst. #StrongerThanCruelFlurryInVMA
• Siphoning Attacks: Effectively grants infinite sustain when used correctly, even on a full damage setup with no other source of somewhat-reliable regen. Nice duration, couples well with NB great sustain passives

2) Run this gear:
• 5x Black Rose: Heavy Armor grants massive mitigation, more health, and more healing recieved. This set also grants you a great damage and stat boost, while simultaneously causing the Heavy Armor resource sustain to spike. An all-in-one set. #totallybalanced
• 5x Viper's Sting: Allows a high damage proc every 4 seconds. Can be procced from a Bow when used correctly. Widely know to be too powerful, but everyone is a Stam NB now so what does it matter. Pairs far too well with the bursty attacks of Stam NB. Use Dual Wield for the 4 and 5 piece bonuses. #BalancedAF
• 2x Velidreth: Another set to add to the list of bursty procs you can set off. This set can hit multiple players as well. Good thing ZOS realized it was too strong, and decided to give it a second look to address the burst for next patch!..... and by that, I mean they reduced the cooldown on the proc. -_- #ZOSLogic
• Master Bow: Cast Poison Injection. Deal much more damage from everything = more burst. Why not? Your burst might not have been enough to one-shot that tank

3) Go full damage:
• All Weapon Damage/Max Stam glyphs.
• Your sustain/stats/mitigation is 100% covered thanks to Black Rose+Siphoning Attacks

4) Go be great in PvP! Good thing Stamina is so much stronger than Magicka! If it wasn't, then you'd have to reroll again

*sigh*

In a way, we have 12 Class Specs. Stam/Mag/Hybrid variants of each class. By cutting out Hybrids, this was reduced to 8 Class Specs (less to balance). By One Tamriel, Magicka will practically become unused/unwanted in PvP. If there are only 4/12 Class Specs left to balance between, it is far easier to reach that balance. This is either the current goal, or the Devs are literally this ignorant about the direction of their own game.

Back before Dark Brotherhood, there was a lot of variety as to what players chased me with when I 1vXed. Mag NB was more prominent, but there was a lot more variety in who I fought. This has died overtime since then.

EVERYONE IS RUNNING STAMINA! One Tamriel will make this worse after people are settled in and get bored with weak old Magicka again.

Don't believe what I said in this post? Check out Cyrodiil.

Perhaps you'll get lucky and spot a few Mag NB Bombers or Mag Sorc Negate Monkeys for easy AP. Maybe a Mag DK tank who roots for a living or a Mag Templar who heals everyone he can. When the best these Mag builds do anymore are play as slaves to a group of Stam builds.... I mean cmon now.

Heard a well known streamer threw a temper tantrum today and is rerolling his magblade to a stamblade because dammit he's just not able to be as cool and impressive as he'd like to be at all times. Poor guy.

I flat out refuse to decide what sort of character I will play based on Zos craptastic decision making in making stamina too op right now for whatever their self serving reasons are. This is just a game I play for fun. And having fun is far more important to me than being impressive and or being led by the nose by game devs which way I should play.

Vaoh

God_flakes wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

The_Duke wrote: »

As a console peasant Ive only been playing since console launch day, so I can only reference what I have experienced since then. PVP has taken a turn for the worse. The Viper/Veli/RM proc builds are hurting PVP. Battle spirit was introduced to prolong fights but with the stam influenced power creep fights only last secondsl if RNG procs at the same time.

For the most part, yeah

Welcome to the meta!

Ever wanted to feel you were great at the game, when internally you know you suck? Ever wanted to 1vX but can't figure out how to kill quickly enough on your tank/healer build? Ever wanted to take down those pesky players running the "weak" classes that 1vX you?

The correct OP setup is as follows:

1) Roll a Stamina character, preferably Nightblade since they are bursty in nature. Along with great passives, they also have access to:
• Incapacitating Strike: Buggy CC, great damage, reduces target's healing taken by 40%, increase your own damage against the target by 20%, guarantees 1-2 hits of Surprise Attack after use, and lowest Ult cost in-game #WorkingAsIntended
• Surprise Attack: High damage, debuff, perfect to spam with procs for unmatched burst. #StrongerThanCruelFlurryInVMA
• Siphoning Attacks: Effectively grants infinite sustain when used correctly, even on a full damage setup with no other source of somewhat-reliable regen. Nice duration, couples well with NB great sustain passives

2) Run this gear:
• 5x Black Rose: Heavy Armor grants massive mitigation, more health, and more healing recieved. This set also grants you a great damage and stat boost, while simultaneously causing the Heavy Armor resource sustain to spike. An all-in-one set. #totallybalanced
• 5x Viper's Sting: Allows a high damage proc every 4 seconds. Can be procced from a Bow when used correctly. Widely know to be too powerful, but everyone is a Stam NB now so what does it matter. Pairs far too well with the bursty attacks of Stam NB. Use Dual Wield for the 4 and 5 piece bonuses. #BalancedAF
• 2x Velidreth: Another set to add to the list of bursty procs you can set off. This set can hit multiple players as well. Good thing ZOS realized it was too strong, and decided to give it a second look to address the burst for next patch!..... and by that, I mean they reduced the cooldown on the proc. -_- #ZOSLogic
• Master Bow: Cast Poison Injection. Deal much more damage from everything = more burst. Why not? Your burst might not have been enough to one-shot that tank

3) Go full damage:
• All Weapon Damage/Max Stam glyphs.
• Your sustain/stats/mitigation is 100% covered thanks to Black Rose+Siphoning Attacks

4) Go be great in PvP! Good thing Stamina is so much stronger than Magicka! If it wasn't, then you'd have to reroll again

*sigh*

In a way, we have 12 Class Specs. Stam/Mag/Hybrid variants of each class. By cutting out Hybrids, this was reduced to 8 Class Specs (less to balance). By One Tamriel, Magicka will practically become unused/unwanted in PvP. If there are only 4/12 Class Specs left to balance between, it is far easier to reach that balance. This is either the current goal, or the Devs are literally this ignorant about the direction of their own game.

Back before Dark Brotherhood, there was a lot of variety as to what players chased me with when I 1vXed. Mag NB was more prominent, but there was a lot more variety in who I fought. This has died overtime since then.

EVERYONE IS RUNNING STAMINA! One Tamriel will make this worse after people are settled in and get bored with weak old Magicka again.

Don't believe what I said in this post? Check out Cyrodiil.

Perhaps you'll get lucky and spot a few Mag NB Bombers or Mag Sorc Negate Monkeys for easy AP. Maybe a Mag DK tank who roots for a living or a Mag Templar who heals everyone he can. When the best these Mag builds do anymore are play as slaves to a group of Stam builds.... I mean cmon now.

Heard a well known streamer threw a temper tantrum today and is rerolling his magblade to a stamblade because dammit he's just not able to be as cool and impressive as he'd like to be at all times. Poor guy.

I flat out refuse to decide what sort of character I will play based on Zos craptastic decision making in making stamina to op right now for whatever their self serving reasons are. This is just a game I play for fun. And having fun is far more important to me than being impressive and or being led by the nose by game devs which way I should play.

I'm a diehard Sorc. Have been since (PS4) launch.

My Stam Sorc I only use to put out fantastic DPS for group content like dungeons/trials/vMA. Strictly PvE (only entered Cyrodiil for Caltrops). Don't often log into this character.

My Mag Sorc is my main. Does mostly PvP, but also also PvE. I am petty much always playing on this character. These days, it takes wearing Imperial Physique for my Mag Sorc to feel on-par stat-wise to these "really good" Stamina players running Black builds and abusing a ton of little Stamina exploits that'll never get fixed.

Black Rose is so powerful everyone is upgrading their Black Rose sets to Legendary! This is despite the higher cost of alloys and truly minor boosts. It's just the best set because you gain the stats of a Tank and the heals of a Healer, yet gain even better damage and sustain than you would if you wore Medium. Can't roll as much? It's fine because you can just tank it now

Knootewoot

Vaoh wrote: »

The_Duke wrote: »

As a console peasant Ive only been playing since console launch day, so I can only reference what I have experienced since then. PVP has taken a turn for the worse. The Viper/Veli/RM proc builds are hurting PVP. Battle spirit was introduced to prolong fights but with the stam influenced power creep fights only last secondsl if RNG procs at the same time.

For the most part, yeah

Welcome to the meta!

Ever wanted to feel you were great at the game, when internally you know you suck? Ever wanted to 1vX but can't figure out how to kill quickly enough on your tank/healer build? Ever wanted to take down those pesky players running the "weak" classes that 1vX you?

The correct OP setup is as follows:

1) Roll a Stamina character, preferably Nightblade since they are bursty in nature. Along with great passives, they also have access to:
• Incapacitating Strike: Buggy CC, great damage, reduces target's healing taken by 40%, increase your own damage against the target by 20%, guarantees 1-2 hits of Surprise Attack after use, and lowest Ult cost in-game #WorkingAsIntended
• Surprise Attack: High damage, debuff, perfect to spam with procs for unmatched burst. #StrongerThanCruelFlurryInVMA
• Siphoning Attacks: Effectively grants infinite sustain when used correctly, even on a full damage setup with no other source of somewhat-reliable regen. Nice duration, couples well with NB great sustain passives

2) Run this gear:
• 5x Black Rose: Heavy Armor grants massive mitigation, more health, and more healing recieved. This set also grants you a great damage and stat boost, while simultaneously causing the Heavy Armor resource sustain to spike. An all-in-one set. #totallybalanced
• 5x Viper's Sting: Allows a high damage proc every 4 seconds. Can be procced from a Bow when used correctly. Widely know to be too powerful, but everyone is a Stam NB now so what does it matter. Pairs far too well with the bursty attacks of Stam NB. Use Dual Wield for the 4 and 5 piece bonuses. #BalancedAF
• 2x Velidreth: Another set to add to the list of bursty procs you can set off. This set can hit multiple players as well. Good thing ZOS realized it was too strong, and decided to give it a second look to address the burst for next patch!..... and by that, I mean they reduced the cooldown on the proc. -_- #ZOSLogic
• Master Bow: Cast Poison Injection. Deal much more damage from everything = more burst. Why not? Your burst might not have been enough to one-shot that tank

3) Go full damage:
• All Weapon Damage/Max Stam glyphs.
• Your sustain/stats/mitigation is 100% covered thanks to Black Rose+Siphoning Attacks

4) Go be great in PvP! Good thing Stamina is so much stronger than Magicka! If it wasn't, then you'd have to reroll again

*sigh*

In a way, we have 12 Class Specs. Stam/Mag/Hybrid variants of each class. By cutting out Hybrids, this was reduced to 8 Class Specs (less to balance). By One Tamriel, Magicka will practically become unused/unwanted in PvP. If there are only 4/12 Class Specs left to balance between, it is far easier to reach that balance. This is either the current goal, or the Devs are literally this ignorant about the direction of their own game.

Back before Dark Brotherhood, there was a lot of variety as to what players chased me with when I 1vXed. Mag NB was more prominent, but there was a lot more variety in who I fought. This has died overtime since then.

EVERYONE IS RUNNING STAMINA! One Tamriel will make this worse after people are settled in and get bored with weak old Magicka again.

Don't believe what I said in this post? Check out Cyrodiil.

Perhaps you'll get lucky and spot a few Mag NB Bombers or Mag Sorc Negate Monkeys for easy AP. Maybe a Mag DK tank who roots for a living or a Mag Templar who heals everyone he can. When the best these Mag builds do anymore are play as slaves to a group of Stam builds.... I mean cmon now.

I stay magblade and will run no 5 piece sets for procs. I know I rule myself out for PvP, but I can still troll and throw people of walls with my destro-staff. Or cheer from the sideline.

arkansas_ESO

Vaoh wrote: »

The_Duke wrote: »

As a console peasant Ive only been playing since console launch day, so I can only reference what I have experienced since then. PVP has taken a turn for the worse. The Viper/Veli/RM proc builds are hurting PVP. Battle spirit was introduced to prolong fights but with the stam influenced power creep fights only last secondsl if RNG procs at the same time.

For the most part, yeah

Welcome to the meta!

Ever wanted to feel you were great at the game, when internally you know you suck? Ever wanted to 1vX but can't figure out how to kill quickly enough on your tank/healer build? Ever wanted to take down those pesky players running the "weak" classes that 1vX you?

The correct OP setup is as follows:

1) Roll a Stamina character, preferably Nightblade since they are bursty in nature. Along with great passives, they also have access to:
• Incapacitating Strike: Buggy CC, great damage, reduces target's healing taken by 40%, increase your own damage against the target by 20%, guarantees 1-2 hits of Surprise Attack after use, and lowest Ult cost in-game #WorkingAsIntended
• Surprise Attack: High damage, debuff, perfect to spam with procs for unmatched burst. #StrongerThanCruelFlurryInVMA
• Siphoning Attacks: Effectively grants infinite sustain when used correctly, even on a full damage setup with no other source of somewhat-reliable regen. Nice duration, couples well with NB great sustain passives

2) Run this gear:
• 5x Black Rose: Heavy Armor grants massive mitigation, more health, and more healing recieved. This set also grants you a great damage and stat boost, while simultaneously causing the Heavy Armor resource sustain to spike. An all-in-one set. #totallybalanced
• 5x Viper's Sting: Allows a high damage proc every 4 seconds. Can be procced from a Bow when used correctly. Widely know to be too powerful, but everyone is a Stam NB now so what does it matter. Pairs far too well with the bursty attacks of Stam NB. Use Dual Wield for the 4 and 5 piece bonuses. #BalancedAF
• 2x Velidreth: Another set to add to the list of bursty procs you can set off. This set can hit multiple players as well. Good thing ZOS realized it was too strong, and decided to give it a second look to address the burst for next patch!..... and by that, I mean they reduced the cooldown on the proc. -_- #ZOSLogic
• Master Bow: Cast Poison Injection. Deal much more damage from everything = more burst. Why not? Your burst might not have been enough to one-shot that tank

3) Go full damage:
• All Weapon Damage/Max Stam glyphs.
• Your sustain/stats/mitigation is 100% covered thanks to Black Rose+Siphoning Attacks

4) Go be great in PvP! Good thing Stamina is so much stronger than Magicka! If it wasn't, then you'd have to reroll again

*sigh*

In a way, we have 12 Class Specs. Stam/Mag/Hybrid variants of each class. By cutting out Hybrids, this was reduced to 8 Class Specs (less to balance). By One Tamriel, Magicka will practically become unused/unwanted in PvP. If there are only 4/12 Class Specs left to balance between, it is far easier to reach that balance. This is either the current goal, or the Devs are literally this ignorant about the direction of their own game.

Back before Dark Brotherhood, there was a lot of variety as to what players chased me with when I 1vXed. Mag NB was more prominent, but there was a lot more variety in who I fought. This has died overtime since then.

EVERYONE IS RUNNING STAMINA! One Tamriel will make this worse after people are settled in and get bored with weak old Magicka again.

Don't believe what I said in this post? Check out Cyrodiil.

Perhaps you'll get lucky and spot a few Mag NB Bombers or Mag Sorc Negate Monkeys for easy AP. Maybe a Mag DK tank who roots for a living or a Mag Templar who heals everyone he can. When the best these Mag builds do anymore are play as slaves to a group of Stam builds.... I mean cmon now.

Summed up a solid 50-60% of Cyrodiil in a single post. Whoever's in charge of designing these sets really needs to rethink their obsession with random proc chances and raw damage increases.

HeroOfNone

Add a GCD on item sets, folks will still be using sets, but hopefully 3 of them would be bursting on you all at once from stealth, or healing shocking, and damaging you all at once.

I like set procs, but with 3 of them stcaked all at once the burst is way too high, even for Azuras.

Lava_Croft

Lower the learning curve and turn it into a downwards slope.

Wrobalance.

GreenSoup2HoT

@Vaoh
• 5x Viper's Sting: Allows a high damage proc every 4 seconds. Can be procced from a Bow when used correctly.

Just to inform you. Viper cannot be proc'd by any bow abilitys or light/heavy attacks. Weapon swapping to melee doesnt work either.

The only way to make Viper proc on Bow is with widowmaker since this proc counts as melee. Velidrith may count as melee to but thats the one set i do not have at the moment.

I have video proof in another thread i can link you to if you dont believe me.

Just wanted to spread the word that its not viper and bow thats broken. Its widowmaker with viper and bow.

HoloYoitsu

The real question is, what is the RNG on proccing a response from Wrobel?

FearlessOne_2014

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

The real question is, what is the RNG on proccing a response from Wrobel?

At this point. *Gets out the Tinfoil hat, and foil wraps the entire house.* I'm pretty sure Wrobel knows what he is doing. He is more then likely doing this on purpose. I like to call it Inside Corporate Sabotage .

The only other thing I can think of is that. @Wrobel is more special then the kids, that have to wear hard hats, or be locked away in padded rooms 24/7/365. Seeing he works for this company. I'd wager it's not the latter.

Vaoh

Step 1: Make Stamina OP
Response: Players reroll Stamina

Step 2: Make Stamima more OP
Response: Players almost all reroll Stamina

Step 3: Make Magicka OP
Response: Players reroll Magicka

Step 4: Make Magicka more OP
Response: Players almost all reroll Magicka

Repeat......

Players purchase Race Change tokens with $$$ to follow the meta

Ankael07

Vaoh wrote: »

Step 1: Make Stamina OP
Response: Players reroll Stamina

Step 2: Make Stamima more OP
Response: Players almost all reroll Stamina

Step 3: Make Magicka OP
Response: Players reroll Magicka

Step 4: Make Magicka more OP
Response: Players almost all reroll Magicka

Repeat......

Players purchase Race Change tokens with $$$ to follow the meta

race change, new OP item sets from a costly dlc, more /played time if youre rerolling a new char, and the sheer dumb fun that meta using playerbase is having. This whole thing favors Zos as a company