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What do you in VMA to the Daedroths!?

mmolegends44
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I been stuck on the final boss for idk how long the daedroths is the only thing that kills me then when I get taken to the top with the crystals take one out and get knocked back down and the daedroths and some other adds are down below Im a stam dk one of the hardest classes to do vma if you disagree you might be on pc im guessing.
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    2 words, Corrosive armor.
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  • Kas
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    I been stuck on the final boss for idk how long the daedroths is the only thing that kills me then when I get taken to the top with the crystals take one out and get knocked back down and the daedroths and some other adds are down below Im a stam dk one of the hardest classes to do vma if you disagree you might be on pc im guessing.

    maybe try to refrain from condescending statements like this if you're neither able to do vmsa nor select the proper subforum.

    that said: you you should move behind the rotating rocks and not get knocked down at all. otherwise: ult them
    Edited by Kas on September 11, 2016 10:09AM
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  • mmolegends44
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    @Chilla_Deluxe what's that suppose to do to them lol they right away start breathing out the fire
  • mmolegends44
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    @Kas rotating rocks i do not remember any rocks you mean hide behind those crystals once he does that slam
  • Asmael
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOE-V4ui6N8

    Check this vid at 0:40, you'll see some rocks slowly rotating around the boss, if you're behind those, you won't get knockbacked.

    The second set of rocks is much faster, so you'll have to go counter-clockwise to catch up to those.

    Good luck :3
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  • Jaronking
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    @Chilla_Deluxe what's that suppose to do to them lol they right away start breathing out the fire
    He means stack mitigation when you see it so you can survive its fire.Plus stay behind the giant flooring rock wall and vigor heals ticking you won't be knocked down.
  • mmolegends44
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    @Jaronking Ok I think I get it yeah when they breathing that fire them vigor heals not going up fast enough lol
  • mmolegends44
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    @Asmael Ohhhhh Ok that giant broken rock ok I see it now lol is it only just 1 rock that will spawn up there
  • Jaronking
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    @Jaronking Ok I think I get it yeah when they breathing that fire them vigor heals not going up fast enough lol
    Yea I know what you mean I can usually just run around them but last round for some reason I can't So have to drop mitigation.

    Their only one wall up at a time when you go up go to the right crystal burn it and pops as many heals as you can.Than the first wall should come up try to follow it but make sure to drop a few dots on the first crystal if its not down than follow it.Keep doing that and your fine.
  • Verbalinkontinenz
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    and get knocked back down

    dont get knocked back down.
  • Chilla_Deluxe
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    @Chilla_Deluxe what's that suppose to do to them lol they right away start breathing out the fire

    Well lets see corrosive literally gives you 9 seconds where you can't die and your physical attacks ignore 100% of the enemys resistance which means you can get rid of him pretty easily and by the time the next one spawns you should have it again, make sure fighters guild is 9 so you can upgrade the passive that gives you more ultimate while fighting daedra.
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  • kadar
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    Basically what these folks said. Don't get knocked down. If you do, Ult bomb the daedroths. Heck, pop a potion.
  • mmolegends44
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    when he does that slam and your hideing behind the rock doesn't it break afterwards or just stays
  • Jaronking
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    when he does that slam and your hideing behind the rock doesn't it break afterwards or just stays

    Its breaks afterwards than another wall comes .
  • Docmandu
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    Not sure if serious... console players can't watch youtube like us PC scrubs?!
  • Mortehl
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    There's a pattern to the fight. Record your attempts.

    He does a skull blast you can dodge roll, you have time to lay hurt on a crystal. He spawns a rock wall as mentioned. Put some hurt with your bow if you're running bow while you maneuver into position. He nukes the wall then the cycle repeats.

    Constantly rotate your camera so you Can keep him in your field of vision. Eventually it will become second nature to dodge roll based on internal sense of timing, and sound. When you break the last crystal, you can actually with some practice let your dots finish the last couple percent and jump off in the middle so you don't get knocked back in the lava and he drops down. Gives you a moment to get to work on the adds.

    Then just build up ghosts while dodge rolling skills and bashing the machine gun spell, grab the axe, stun the guy and nuke him into next week, then collect your powered one hander. Curse a lot, prosper.
  • Mortehl
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    Oh and about the daedra, fight them while rapidly moving in a circle. It'll cut back on the fire a bit. I haven't done it on a Stam dk yet, so I can't give you direct advice but circle walking helped me not burn to death
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    It's a wise idea (if you are there the first time) to get the shield power up and do damage as fast as possible to the Boss. At best Ulti him and the Daedroth. As a NB I use Veil, no idea what other classes use. The Boss should have 70% health or lower when he flees to the upper circle.

    On top the Boss does three types of attacks:

    1) small red circles which do some damage and - more important - stun you. You are able to avoid those by sheer movement, otherwise block at least to prevent some damage and the stun effect.

    2) a skull blast attack similar to the attack Nerieneth does in the Crypta. Watch him out of the corner of your eye for recognizing the animation and block the attack. If you don't block it you will most likely slammed over the edge and fall down.

    3) a big AoE which will blast you over the edge. You need to get shelter behind that moving bone wall thingy rotating in the inner circle. For every time the Boss does this AoE attack, the wall will move faster.

    For me it worked well, if you keep moving on the top, moving from crystal to crystal while using direct damage spells but especially offloading dots (Crippling Grasp, Blockade of Fire as a NB).

    If you destroy all three crystals on the top you will be thrown down again, but any (still living) Daedroth down there will be dead. If you fell down while there are any crystals still there on top a Daedroth will most likely be waiting for you on the lower lvl. This can be survived if your ultimate is ready or by intensive dpsing and healing and running in circles and some luck, but it's very expensive ressourcewise and will most likely result in death, so just don't fall down.

    After the destruction of the three crystals the boss will come down again (he should be somewhere around 65%-70% health, because you already did damage to him before) and now the collection of golden ghosts is number one priority. Get three of them and stun in the best case the boss and a meanwhile respawned Daedroth again (at best both close together, so you may ulti and AoE them together). To get at least the speed power up is a good idea. The dps power up might be great too.

    Rince and repeat until you finish him.

    Edited by Flameheart on September 14, 2016 4:00PM
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  • Bandit1215
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    I been stuck on the final boss for idk how long the daedroths is the only thing that kills me then when I get taken to the top with the crystals take one out and get knocked back down and the daedroths and some other adds are down below Im a stam dk one of the hardest classes to do vma if you disagree you might be on pc im guessing.

    Dealing with the Daedroth is easy on a stam Dk. If you think otherwise, you are on console I'm guessing. L2P.
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  • Autolycus
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    The best technique for dealing with the Crematorial Guards is the "helicopter" technique. Lock target on them and move full circles around them until he's dead. If you do it right, you'll manage to stay just in front of his fire breath aoe (technically to the left or right, depending which way you rotate) until you get him down. Something else worth noting is that high enough dps on the boss during the first phase (until he's at 70% health) can skip the Crematorial Guards outright, but doing so requires a pretty high level of dps and affords little room for error, else the Crematorial Guard must be played out.

    If you're a DW stam DK, consider using Bloodthirst (Flurry morph) and Blood Craze (Twin Slashes morph). I find that buffing up before the Crematorial Guard can get to me and then doing the helicopter technique while constantly using Bloodthirst and weaving light attacks affords enough self-healing without stopping dps. The dps loss for using these morphs is pretty negligible; you wouldn't be forced to switch between the two for other pve content like dungeons and trials.
    Edited by Autolycus on September 13, 2016 7:07PM
  • Foxic
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    Also stam dk is right behind magicka sorcerer in top vma scores...
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    Asmael wrote: »
    Sweet Dibella, that interface is a MESS. :s
  • Apherius
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    Asmael wrote: »
    Sweet Dibella, that interface is a MESS. :s

    i discover soemthing with your video man xD , ty , now i know that i can jump on the middle when i finished to kill crystal , and i don't have to wait the expulsion of the 2nd floor .
  • Chilla_Deluxe
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    Bandit1215 wrote: »
    I been stuck on the final boss for idk how long the daedroths is the only thing that kills me then when I get taken to the top with the crystals take one out and get knocked back down and the daedroths and some other adds are down below Im a stam dk one of the hardest classes to do vma if you disagree you might be on pc im guessing.

    Dealing with the Daedroth is easy on a stam Dk. If you think otherwise, you are on console I'm guessing. L2P.

    Lmao, nice one. But for real saying VMA is easier on PC is a joke, its equally as achievable on console then it is PC.
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    Bandit1215 wrote: »
    I been stuck on the final boss for idk how long the daedroths is the only thing that kills me then when I get taken to the top with the crystals take one out and get knocked back down and the daedroths and some other adds are down below Im a stam dk one of the hardest classes to do vma if you disagree you might be on pc im guessing.

    Dealing with the Daedroth is easy on a stam Dk. If you think otherwise, you are on console I'm guessing. L2P.

    Lmao, nice one. But for real saying VMA is easier on PC is a joke, its equally as achievable on console then it is PC.

    Hmm, not sure on that one. Console players have a maximum camera rotation speed which is slower than it is on pc. On pc we can do a 180 in the flick of the wrist, on console they have to hold a stick in one direction for ~1.5 seconds. This makes fast paced gameplay harder on console.
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  • Autolycus
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    Bandit1215 wrote: »
    I been stuck on the final boss for idk how long the daedroths is the only thing that kills me then when I get taken to the top with the crystals take one out and get knocked back down and the daedroths and some other adds are down below Im a stam dk one of the hardest classes to do vma if you disagree you might be on pc im guessing.

    Dealing with the Daedroth is easy on a stam Dk. If you think otherwise, you are on console I'm guessing. L2P.

    Lmao, nice one. But for real saying VMA is easier on PC is a joke, its equally as achievable on console then it is PC.

    Hmm, not sure on that one. Console players have a maximum camera rotation speed which is slower than it is on pc. On pc we can do a 180 in the flick of the wrist, on console they have to hold a stick in one direction for ~1.5 seconds. This makes fast paced gameplay harder on console.

    Tell that to all the 360 no-scope pros in CoD.

    On a serious note, though, I find it hard to believe that the maximum camera sensitivity on console is 1.5s for a 180 at it's fastest...
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