Veliderth + Viper combo need some adjustment asap

Ryuho

Malubeth was broken af (sometimes it's still), but those two sets combo it's totally broken.. @ZOS_GinaBruno @Wrobel do u plan to adjust those two sets in any way?

Hexys

Ye they have a change for it on the PTS, the cooldown will be 9 seconds instead of 10. hahahaha

Sandman929

They're definitely working as intended, but the intent is completely f'd up

Lord_Hev

Tanky Malubeth Templar.


*Riots, looting, social uproar, mass protests and QQ*



Velidreth & Viper cheese 1-shotting people.


*crickets*

HoloYoitsu

Lord_Hev wrote: »

Tanky Malubeth Templar.


*Riots, looting, social uproar, mass protests and QQ*



Velidreth & Viper cheese 1-shotting people.


*crickets*

Stam-meta-as-intended

olsborg

Agreed. Pvp is becoming less and less about skill and more and more about procc this and procc that. Velidreth+viper is cancerous.

CapuchinSeven

olsborg wrote: »

Agreed. Pvp is becoming less and less about skill and more and more about procc this and procc that. Velidreth+viper is cancerous.

I find Viper (and I have a full set, more than a full set of it actually) and pretty much anything else is lol broken. I ran Viper and Eternal Hunt for a day and it was comical, dodge roll forward into them melee hit them and bam on procs alone you have 10k+ damage and a stun.

Docmandu

Please don't ask @Wrobel to fix stuff... god knows what abomination he comes up with next... just look at what happened when people asked for a malutard fix.

Ahzek

Viper + velindreth + red mountain sounds really fun for Azuras PvP right ?

Jaiden

Does viper proc off morihaus proc? I can see it now, velidreth + viper + morihaus. You stun and kill people with roll dodge now.

KenaPKK

"Viper turns your regular hits into crits and your crits into one shots." ~ guildy

maxjapank

Docmandu wrote: »

Please don't ask @Wrobel to fix stuff... god knows what abomination he comes up with next... just look at what happened when people asked for a malutard fix.

Another blame Wrobel for everything. When you didn't have bacon for breakfast, I bet he stole those, too.

Armitas

This outcome was mentioned and ignored on the pts.

RadioheadSh0t

Just wait, there are at least 10 more cancer sets incoming with Update 12.

Agrippa_Invisus

RadioheadSh0t wrote: »

Just wait, there are at least 10 more cancer sets incoming with Update 12.

Soon you'll be able to strap on armor and just look like a giant tumor.

Publius_Scipio

I am happy to report I run neither of these sets.

Waylander

The sheer number of 'skillfull player'(s) who 'rekt' 'nubs' has grown significantly with this combination.

I guess it's what you get when you balance on a damage over time basis without thinking of burst and pvp.

Imagine if there was a magica viper/veli combo - my guess is that mDK's would feel balanced.

It's a sad state of game where gear sets are the determining factor in 90% of fights.

maxjapank

Waylander wrote: »

It's a sad state of game where gear sets are the determining factor in 90% of fights.

Agreed.

Brutusmax1mus

Wait till they fix widow maker...

Ankael07

It feels like we're talking against a wall here. Not only theyve buff Velindreth's cooldown by 1 second we have another set coming named Selene's Visage which will probably hit more than Velindreth since its single target.

KenaPKK

Ankael07 wrote: »

It feels like we're talking against a wall here. Not only theyve buff Velindreth's cooldown by 1 second we have another set coming named Selene's Visage which will probably hit more than Velindreth since its single target.

Much lower cooldown and comparable if not higher damage. I just can't even...

Knootewoot

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

I am happy to report I run neither of these sets.

Same for me. But I can't say I enjoy PvP lately due to these sets where playerskills don't matter anymore but armor procs and stam-meta builds. Been PvE'ing more lately.

Ghostbane

Waylander wrote: »

Imagine if there was a magica viper/veli combo - my guess is that mDK's would feel balanced.

No, they'd probably remove the Ardent Flame tree.

Ankael07

At one point I've seriously considered wearing Death's Wind just to fight this meta.

caeliusstarbreaker

maxjapank wrote: »

Docmandu wrote: »

Please don't ask @Wrobel to fix stuff... god knows what abomination he comes up with next... just look at what happened when people asked for a malutard fix.

Another blame Wrobel for everything. When you didn't have bacon for breakfast, I bet he stole those, too.

I cursed Wrobel the other day when I stubbed my toe.

CapuchinSeven

KenaPKK wrote: »

Ankael07 wrote: »

It feels like we're talking against a wall here. Not only theyve buff Velindreth's cooldown by 1 second we have another set coming named Selene's Visage which will probably hit more than Velindreth since its single target.

Much lower cooldown and comparable if not higher damage. I just can't even...

It's past the point of comedy now.

I've known people in the games industry for years and every one of them says the same thing. The problem is, game companies actually think this stuff is a good idea. It's an old game design view but one that ZOS clearly stick to, they think that if there is a FOTM or meta people will play the game more/reroll/respec and spend more time in the game.

CapuchinSeven

Knootewoot wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

I am happy to report I run neither of these sets.

Same for me. But I can't say I enjoy PvP lately due to these sets where playerskills don't matter anymore but armor procs and stam-meta builds. Been PvE'ing more lately.

As someone with a full set of Vipers (and a few other silly Stamina sets), I refuse to play stamina right now. I have zero respect for anyone I see running viper, I can face plant my head on the keyboard in some of these sets and still get a kill.

Publius_Scipio

Knootewoot wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

I am happy to report I run neither of these sets.

Same for me. But I can't say I enjoy PvP lately due to these sets where playerskills don't matter anymore but armor procs and stam-meta builds. Been PvE'ing more lately.

The only thing that can be annoying in PvP are the meta heavy tanks right now. You just can't burn them down 1v1 in the field. Some still run malubeth, a very annoying proc. You have the cheese ball Templars who are blessed with tankiness, heals, and dps. Which of course basically consists of spamming spears like a machine gun.

Also the flavor of the month stam sorcs can be annoying with their little hurricane security blanket and crit rush spam.

Really 95% of the time all I see is poison injection, crit rush, and executioner spam. I've even seen "the PROs!!!" spam executioner 5+ times before a target finally digitally passed away.

But luckily I care so much about all of this that I run a crafted gear build, don't use a bow, have not unlocked crit rush, have yet to touch a trial, and still make fun of the elves and pact.

Cinbri

Will be fixed in Update 13, just wait a bit.

Destyran

My friend 1 shot a stealthed nb with caltrops the other day we didnt even know he was there lol

Rohamad_Ali

Destyran wrote: »

My friend 1 shot a stealthed nb with caltrops the other day we didnt even know he was there lol

Wat ? Seriously ?