Would you like to swap your character builds on command.

Aldin11

I would really like it if we could swap our builds like we could swap our weapons. We could name them (ex. pvp build, stamina build, etc.) and switch them whenever we want to. But the builds should only be for skills and weapons, not attributes it would make the whole thing complicated. I know we have weapon swap but what if we want to change our entire build? I dont want to do it manually! So is this a good idea yes or no?
Edit: Yes I am a console player.

Solinur

Yes I hate changing it manually.

If it is for equip and skills, there are addons that do that quite fine. I use AlphaGear for that, there are others too.
I guess it could be useful for all that console players though to have an ingame option.
What I would still like is to have is Sets/Profiles of the CP distribution.

Robbmrp

Yes I hate changing it manually.

You must be on Console as PC already has Addons that do these. I use Wykkyd Outfitter to swap out my gear when not in combat. It makes it so easy to change from different sets with a single click. As for Skills, Swaps will let you save skill sets. With these two addons I can change out all my gear and skills with a few clicks.

Aldin11

Yes I hate changing it manually.

Solinur wrote: »

If it is for equip and skills, there are addons that do that quite fine. I use AlphaGear for that, there are others too.
I guess it could be useful for all that console players though to have an ingame option.
What I would still like is to have is Sets/Profiles of the CP distribution.

@Solinur
Yeah I'm a console player so it's terrible for me.

phairdon

Yes I hate changing it manually.

Thought this was possible for PC players, with one of the addon's available.

Anyhow. Like the idea, regardless.

Destruent

Would be also great to save some CP-Setups. I hate changing my red CP depending on the trial we are doing

Wollust

PC masterrace has an addon for that

UrQuan

Yes I hate changing it manually.

I'm on PC and I use Wykkyd Outfitter addon combined with Wykkyd Macros to swap out my skills and gear by hitting 2 keys (1 is the key I assigned to the macro to select which Outfitter-saved gear set and which Outfitter-saved skill set I picked for that build, and the other is the weapon swap key to complete loading the skills on the second bar).

Other than my mini-map, this is the one addon that I get the most use out of. All of my max-level characters have 4-5 different builds (my magicka characters each have a DPS build, a tank build, a healer build, a stealth build, and a "training" build; my stamina characters each have a DPS build, a tank build, a stealth build, and a "training" build), and I swap between them very frequently. Obviously without my addons I wouldn't be able to do that on the fly so easily.

So for the benefit of console folks, I think it would be great if this was added into the game.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

Yes I hate changing it manually.

You want to guarantee everyone subscribes? Crafting bags were a good start, but offer dual spec (skills, attributes, and CP) and everyone and their mom will subscribe tomorrow.

Edit, as for what you are suggesting, I can do that with a press of a button with Alpha Gear. Also, for anyone still using Wykkyds, dressing room, whatever, Alpha Gear is far superior. I wont go back.

Browiseth

No I would like to waste time changing my builds

I don't like change

Lucius_Aelius

Yes I hate changing it manually.

It depends, certainly it's not something you should be able to do in combat, that would obviously be broken. As long as you're not in combat, yes I can see this as being fine and a nice time-saver.

boldscot

Yes I hate changing it manually.

Seriously who voted no?

It would be great to have 3 or 4 possible set ups that could switched to instantly.

Solinur

Yes I hate changing it manually.

Lucius_Aelius wrote: »

It depends, certainly it's not something you should be able to do in combat, that would obviously be broken. As long as you're not in combat, yes I can see this as being fine and a nice time-saver.

It is not possible to swap skills/items in combat anyway

Taleof2Cities

Yes I hate changing it manually.

I recall the question being asked in a recent ESO Live. I also recall the official response as something ZOS "would look into". Not sure if it's an action item yet, but at least that's better than nothing ...

CasNation

Yes I hate changing it manually.

Back before 1.6 and CP, I was able to actually swap between a stam sorc and a sorc healer build with the push of a button. Back in the day, it was common logic to put all points into health, so it was really easy to swap between Magicka and stamina. There were also no stam morphs for class skills...the game has made a lot of improvements, but I miss those days...

Doctordarkspawn

Yes I hate changing it manually.

Do you know how *** annoying it is switching to a DPS/Allternate setup for Planar inhib alone?

FEELS BAD MAN.

DHale

I already do.... Add ons. Goes without saying PC master race.

Jazbay_Grape

I would really like to be able to swap from my build to one that is actually good .. on command.

TBONE_OG

Yes I hate changing it manually.

Been asking for this since January of this year. I hope they implement it someday.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/241067/skill-loadouts-for-consoles-and-pc#latest

Lucius_Aelius

Yes I hate changing it manually.

Solinur wrote: »

Lucius_Aelius wrote: »

It depends, certainly it's not something you should be able to do in combat, that would obviously be broken. As long as you're not in combat, yes I can see this as being fine and a nice time-saver.

It is not possible to swap skills/items in combat anyway

Oh I know, just making sure everyone understood I thought it should stay that way, the OP was vague on that aspect and left it open to interpretation.

Cryptical

Yes I hate changing it manually.

Yeah, once again pc has these add ons that take care of the magic of switching between builds, and timers, and 'block now' warnings, and 'ultimate ready' advice, and damage logs, and more.

It really needs to be said, console playing is not really recognized as being the more difficult to use. We don't have those luxuries, until very recently we had to use a dungeon boss as a measuring stick and do math to guesstimate a dps value. Now with the scrolling text it's a matter of watching a recording and doing the math by hand. Without special gear there is no mapping 'break free' or an ultimate or a synergy to a single input - we have to properly mash the buttons in order to get what we want. To dodge roll, 3 inputs. 2 for the roll and the direction stick for which way.

And when we want to switch builds we do it by hand, and get irritated if something managed to end up in the bank. So let's make that another part of the base game.

Alpheu5

No I would like to waste time changing my builds

From a PvP perspective, I hate the idea of people making on-the-fly changes to their gear for the sole purpose of hard-countering the situation.

Switching to shield breaker behind a tree when they run into a shield stacker.
Switching to Malubeth + Black Rose when a zerg shows up 100 feet away.
Switching to Sentry + magelight + lingering flare when you see someone stealth away in the distance.

The time "wasted" is a necessary buffer so the game doesn't turn into a Pokémon battle by swapping out to whatever gives the biggest advantage at that very moment. I know there are add-ons that can do this already but I look down on anybody that may use them in PvP. The same principal applies when duelling. If you have to change your build to tailor specifically to beating your opponent at that moment, then that ceases to be a simulation of a live setting.

HOWEVER, from a PvE perspective, yes please. Last night I went into vWGT ready with my DPS gear, but then I noticed I was the only one tagged as a tank and also the only one with 24k+ health, so I asked "I guess I'm tanking?" to which the answer was "yep". So I had to spend about 5 minutes going through my inventory and bars to equip all new things, because I've got about 5 or 6 different builds of various purposes sitting in my backpack.

Dubhliam

Yes I hate changing it manually.

For us PC players, most of our problems are solved with addons (Dressing Room is a lifesaver).

But still!

I made a suggestion for ZOS to introduce new assistants when housing comes - let's call them Dressers.
Basically, they would simply open an UI that lets you instantly equip one or the gear you have stored on your mannequins in your house. They are still stored on your mannequins, and don't take place in your inventory.
This would also make it easier to equip multiple characters with the same set, without having the need to unequip, store to bank, withdraw then equip again for every character.

Heck, I would not mind if the assistant is 5000 Crowns, with additional 1000 Crowns for each mannequin, just MAKE IT HAPPEN!

Oreyn_Bearclaw

Yes I hate changing it manually.

Dubhliam wrote: »

For us PC players, most of our problems are solved with addons (Dressing Room is a lifesaver).

But still!

I made a suggestion for ZOS to introduce new assistants when housing comes - let's call them Dressers.
Basically, they would simply open an UI that lets you instantly equip one or the gear you have stored on your mannequins in your house. They are still stored on your mannequins, and don't take place in your inventory.
This would also make it easier to equip multiple characters with the same set, without having the need to unequip, store to bank, withdraw then equip again for every character.

Heck, I would not mind if the assistant is 5000 Crowns, with additional 1000 Crowns for each mannequin, just MAKE IT HAPPEN!

If they did this, I would buy 10 mannequins and 2 assistants, just in case one got lost. haha.

newtinmpls

No I would like to waste time changing my builds

No, I would like to have my choices have meaning.

I play characters not builds.

UltimaJoe777

DHale wrote: »

I already do.... Add ons. Goes without saying PC master race.

You're right, it does go without saying because it's egotistical bullcrap.

Personally, I do believe this is what alts can be used for, but to each their own and Zenimax did indeed say that the whole "dual spec" thing is being looked into and could very well arrive in the future.

itsfatbass

Yes I hate changing it manually.

There are MANY add-ons for this already. Dressing Room is what I use and its very simple and lets you swap gear/skills.

Reverb

I have Dressing Room on the PTS and it's good, but I still use and love Wykkyd's Outfitter on live. Consoles will have to continue living with add-on envy

Recremen

Yes I hate changing it manually.

I would pay hard shiny Crowns for a set of builds I could freely and easily swap between.

PvE DPS
PvP DPS
PvWhatever Healer
PvE Tank
Experimentations with Magicka DPS

Big up-front Crown cost, but unless you need to change that specific build, no need to pay extra gold or go through the laborious process of redistributing attribute, champion, and skill points.

jhharvest

This is one of those addon things that should be standard features, like locking gear against deconning was.