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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

leaving dungeons mid pledge..

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Can you please make it so if someone joins a group for the pledge thats half done or almost done they get their quest updated? I just made it to final boss on vet pledge and the guy left for work. Like 10 people joined then left immediately, and the group disbanded.. very frustrating
  • bebynnag
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    they need to implement some kind of system because while its frustrating for you, stuck on last boss, its also really frustrating for the people who have waited for however long to find a group, only to be placed with one that has done most of the objectives for the pledge!
  • Erasure
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    They couldn't do that, it'd be easy to game it.

    1: Run a group to the final stage
    2: Invite literally everyone, all their quests get set to the final condition
    3: Form new groups and skip all avoidable content, still receive full clear status.
    4: Enjoy your quick keys.

    Maybe if the quest status reset to fully uncompleted once the player leaves an instance as well, but then we'd have a similar problem. Only groups that do full, sequential completion would be able to get rewarded. Currently, if someone flakes on the last boss, you technically can find a group who also is at the final stage and get your clear that way. Finding one might not be a common occurrence, of course.
  • lolo_01b16_ESO
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    Erasure wrote: »
    They couldn't do that, it'd be easy to game it.

    1: Run a group to the final stage
    2: Invite literally everyone, all their quests get set to the final condition
    3: Form new groups and skip all avoidable content, still receive full clear status.
    4: Enjoy your quick keys.

    Maybe if the quest status reset to fully uncompleted once the player leaves an instance as well, but then we'd have a similar problem. Only groups that do full, sequential completion would be able to get rewarded. Currently, if someone flakes on the last boss, you technically can find a group who also is at the final stage and get your clear that way. Finding one might not be a common occurrence, of course.
    I guess thanks to load screens this wouldn't save any time. Additionally most (gold) pledges only require bosses that can't be skiped anyway. The only exception that comes to my mind is vCoA.
  • Erasure
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    I guess thanks to load screens this wouldn't save any time. Additionally most (gold) pledges only require bosses that can't be skiped anyway. The only exception that comes to my mind is vCoA.

    It wouldn't be people who could clear the content to begin with, who would attempt such things ;)
  • MaxwellC
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    Nah this is the thing that started this mess in the first place where I queue up for a random vet dungeon only to get placed in a group with a CP10-100 for City of ash and decide to leave because they're all buddies costing me 15mins of my time.

    You need to look at it from both sides; if I join your group as a Tank or DPS n you guys just keep screwing up and yeah I'll take blame when needed but if I know it's not me and you won't listen then sorry I'm out. I've been in plenty of dungeons where I explain it and they ignore me, I've carried many players through 'hard' dungeons as a tank while we had a CP120 sorc healer.

    I remember trying to tank kena with under 300CP DPS and that 120 sorc healer. Tried and tried telling them what's up and spent well over 1 hour on the last boss like wow
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  • elantaura
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    I usually get put in them in the random dailys. I think they need to give priority here. If boss has been killed use random as opposed to specific group, I am happy to do it on random help out and get my xp and leave even if it's the last boss.you get the Xp and level undaunted.

    If I go on the pretence of a pledge I leave though.
    The solution is I believe for gf to grab from the random line I am happy to get the XP for 1 boss, group is happy to be out of the mess they are in . I once brought my NB into a group in the crucible who had spent 4 hours a friend gave up they were so happy -it felt great to help too.
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  • bebynnag
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    elantaura wrote: »
    I usually get put in them in the random dailys. I think they need to give priority here. If boss has been killed use random as opposed to specific group, I am happy to do it on random help out and get my xp and leave even if it's the last boss.you get the Xp and level undaunted.

    If I go on the pretence of a pledge I leave though.
    The solution is I believe for gf to grab from the random line I am happy to get the XP for 1 boss, group is happy to be out of the mess they are in . I once brought my NB into a group in the crucible who had spent 4 hours a friend gave up they were so happy -it felt great to help too.

    see this is a brilliant idea! if the group has partly completed a pledge only pull people who are queing for a random dungeon.
    AMAZING IDEA!

    chances are they are only interested in the huge xp bonus they get for queing for a random dungeon or are randomly after any old helm.
  • SolarCat02
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    elantaura wrote: »
    I usually get put in them in the random dailys. I think they need to give priority here. If boss has been killed use random as opposed to specific group, I am happy to do it on random help out and get my xp and leave even if it's the last boss.you get the Xp and level undaunted.

    If I go on the pretence of a pledge I leave though.
    The solution is I believe for gf to grab from the random line I am happy to get the XP for 1 boss, group is happy to be out of the mess they are in . I once brought my NB into a group in the crucible who had spent 4 hours a friend gave up they were so happy -it felt great to help too.

    see this is a brilliant idea! if the group has partly completed a pledge only pull people who are queing for a random dungeon.
    AMAZING IDEA!

    chances are they are only interested in the huge xp bonus they get for queing for a random dungeon or are randomly after any old helm.

    This! When queuing for a random it's usually a plus to see a partially completed dungeon. (I say usually because sometimes the group really is that horrible. But give me at least one other competent person and I will run it with confidence.)

    When queuing for the pledge, of course, not so much.
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  • NewBlacksmurf
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    Here's a real idea.
    Remove undaunted dailies completely and move those rewards to random activity and specific activities

    Give more bonuses based on not dying, dying less, number of NPC group kills. It doesn't need to be so rigid and limited. It should be something to encourage ppl to run dungeons but not something that promotes elitist grouping and excluding others.
    Edited by NewBlacksmurf on August 29, 2016 2:43AM
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  • elantaura
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    Yes Most people I don't think know you get the xp in randoms and still leave if boss is gone. I didn't but I went to direfrost and felt sorry for a group and knew I could burn the boss.and wanted to see if it helped undaunted. As I am leveling it on a couple still. I though what the heck and did. I was surprised and happy at the activity completed lol. Now I kind of hope I get them people stuck ones.
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