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As a templar, Does anyone use healing ritual, solar barrage, radiant aura and/or eclipse?

Drdeath20
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I've tried all these skills out and I just fail to see the value in any of them. Are there any templars out there using these?

Oh I should add for pvp.
  • wayfarerx
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    • Healing Ritual - This is probably the worst active ability in the entire game. A burst heal with a casting time is pretty much useless in 99% of situations. I've seen people say they spam this on flags but I think there is always something better to slot.
    • Solar Barrage - To my knowledge Dark Flare is preferred most of the time. Puncturing sweep is a better AOE skill.
    • Radiant Aura - The big buff from this skill does not stack with potions, and the Repentance morph is free to cast. Repentance wins.
    • Eclipse - Honestly I don't know. This skill has been buggy for so long that I just never slot it. Maybe it's awesome sometimes, maybe not.
    Edited by wayfarerx on August 20, 2016 3:57PM
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  • lucky_Sage
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    eclipse can be cc broke so its crap and can only be placed on 1 target so no one uses it
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  • subtlezeroub17_ESO
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    The dark flare morph is a viable ranged alternative to sweeping strikes. I wonder why you even included that.

    Repentence morph of radiant aura is a Healing templar staple for trash fights.

    The damage morph of eclipse could be good if they made the explosion time shorter or even made it a targeted AoE explosion instead of having to aim all your bombs on each target.
  • Brutusmax1mus
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    I personally love lingering ritual for pvp healing because of its radius. If you're spamming it then really the only time you notice the cast time is the initial hit. Charging flags i use blue balls since they'll stack and travel with you and are not reduced in healing by battle spirit. Once I'm on it i ritual/springs/ritual springs. I also use the 4 seconds morph of grand healing. It's unreal how important that radius can be. The skill is not so great when pushing .

    The other-no i don't use them ever, there are better skills.
  • Solariken
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    No OP, those skills are all aweful. Templars are plagued with terrible design.
  • Unsent.Soul
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    I choose radiant aura for my templar tank for pvp. There's usually another templar running repentance in my group.
  • timidobserver
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    All of those skills have very little use.
    -Eclipse is useful in on a few pulls in vMSA and against Overload Sorcs in PvP. It works against Dark Flare, but really who is going to let their own Dark Flare hit them given that it would take like a combined 6 seconds for it to get to the target and bounce back.
    -Solar Barrage used to be nice for some burst AoE fun with prox det before the prox det nerf, but now it is pretty worthless. The high resource and clunky animation also makes it a bad skill to use. I used to run it in vICP for the big AoE mob pulls.
    -Radiant Aura is good if you regularly run in Templar heavy groups with 2-3+ people running repentance. Otherwise it is useless.
    -Healing Ritual is my pet peeve Templar ability. It is so bad that I'd be okay with them deleting it and NOT even replacing it with something better. That way new healers won't try to use it. The new/possible blinding flashes like ability that Wrobel referred to in some past ESO live should be the replacement for this ability.
    Edited by timidobserver on August 20, 2016 8:13PM
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  • WillhelmBlack
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    No. Nobody does that.
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  • Joy_Division
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    They shouldn't be.
  • Drdeath20
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    It's a shame.
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    I choose radiant aura for my templar tank for pvp. There's usually another templar running repentance in my group.

    This is the main reason to run Radiant Aura.

    The other is if you are in a group not packing good pots/alchemy passives (newer players, usually). Then keeping those buffs up is kinda nice.
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  • Lightspeedflashb14_ESO
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    I have played a temp for almost 2 years and I have never unlocked eclipse. That tells you all you need to know about that.

    The only reason that I have unlocked lingering ritual is just for kicks, to see how high of a heal I can get with it, on my temp, I have seen 50k crits on my self.

    As for the other morph of repentance, there is no point to run it, even with other temps running it, as you could still hit bodies they didn't.

    And then barrage, if the empower worked for all the mobs in the second cast, it would be useful. But it only works for one of them. And major defile is important for PvP.
  • Drdeath20
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    Is this as good as it gets?
  • Kelces
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    I have played a temp for almost 2 years and I have never unlocked eclipse. That tells you all you need to know about that.

    The only reason that I have unlocked lingering ritual is just for kicks, to see how high of a heal I can get with it, on my temp, I have seen 50k crits on my self.

    As for the other morph of repentance, there is no point to run it, even with other temps running it, as you could still hit bodies they didn't.

    And then barrage, if the empower worked for all the mobs in the second cast, it would be useful. But it only works for one of them. And major defile is important for PvP.

    Same here.

    I use radiant aura, as long as nobody else in the group is using it already, just to make sure.

    If you can get it, use barrier as an ultimate, especially if you have all passives - Most magicka regeneration of all.
    Edited by Kelces on August 21, 2016 6:30AM
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  • Lore_lai
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    Healing Ritual? What's that?
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  • Drdeath20
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    After all this time is this it?
  • Drdeath20
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    Lore_lai wrote: »
    Healing Ritual? What's that?
    ...

    It's that skill that you use right before you die.
  • Acsvf
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    The dark flare morph is a viable ranged alternative to sweeping strikes. I wonder why you even included that.
    Repentence morph of radiant aura is a Healing templar staple for trash fights.
    It's the specific morphs being talked about, not the ability you morph it from.
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  • Cinbri
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    Don't even invest points into those useless skills.
    Couple weeks till pts and we will see if ZOS listened anything form tons of our suggestions (however with templar hate spreading through forum i afraid about it)
  • IwakuraLain42
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    Well, I'm using Radiant Aura on my magplar to boost my magicka regen, which has been an issue lately. Seems like a good option.
  • Ashamray
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    All skills you mentioned are useless in pvp or pve. Without exaggeration.
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  • Ron_Burgundy_79
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    Drdeath20 wrote: »
    I've tried all these skills out and I just fail to see the value in any of them. Are there any templars out there using these?

    Oh I should add for pvp.

    Nope. Mained a templar since launch, and I currently don't use any of those skills.
  • Drdeath20
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    Well, I'm using Radiant Aura on my magplar to boost my magicka regen, which has been an issue lately. Seems like a good option.

    It cost magicka and it's main benefit is to increase magicka recovery by 20%. Like channelled focus it's another investment into recovery but it lacks any utility and doesnt stack with potions. Atleast channelled focus is a shield, gives a snare and provides major mending.
  • Brutusmax1mus
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    Not sure why everyone is getting on lingering ritual so much.
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    wayfarerx wrote: »
    • Healing Ritual - This is probably the worst active ability in the entire game. A burst heal with a casting time is pretty much useless in 99% of situations. I've seen people say they spam this on flags but I think there is always something better to slot.
    • Solar Barrage - To my knowledge Dark Flare is preferred most of the time. Puncturing sweep is a better AOE skill.
    • Radiant Aura - The big buff from this skill does not stack with potions, and the Repentance morph is free to cast. Repentance wins.
    • Eclipse - Honestly I don't know. This skill has been buggy for so long that I just never slot it. Maybe it's awesome sometimes, maybe not.

    Pretty much exactly this, except:
    • Healing Ritual - Strong AoE heal. Makes a good spammable skill for mindless zerging "tactics". Plz replace with a more valuable ability.
    • Solar Barrage - This is honestly a really nice skill. The issue is that you might as well use Puncturing Sweeps for the healing/snare (better) and Dark Flare is a valuable but very different spell. Sort of deserves to be its own skill with its own morphs.
    • Radiant Aura - Not bad, but Repentance is simply superior.
    • Eclipse - This skill is both buggy and made weak from being rammed with nerfs. Plz buff.
    Edited by Vaoh on August 22, 2016 1:34AM
  • IwakuraLain42
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    Drdeath20 wrote: »
    Well, I'm using Radiant Aura on my magplar to boost my magicka regen, which has been an issue lately. Seems like a good option.

    It cost magicka and it's main benefit is to increase magicka recovery by 20%. Like channelled focus it's another investment into recovery but it lacks any utility and doesnt stack with potions. Atleast channelled focus is a shield, gives a snare and provides major mending.

    I'm using Channeled Focus as well, but it does lock you into place and I can count the seconds on my hand until a red zone of stupid appears at my feet. I'm using the Aura because I don't want to use Potions for every fight (there aren't that many flowers in the Hollow City for that ....) and applying Magic Cost reduction on all jewelry would drive my already low spell damage even further into the ground.

    Maybe I've missed something, but this was one of the few options I found that fit my templar build (dps, DW/Resto) and helped with regen issues.
  • Drdeath20
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    Drdeath20 wrote: »
    Well, I'm using Radiant Aura on my magplar to boost my magicka regen, which has been an issue lately. Seems like a good option.

    It cost magicka and it's main benefit is to increase magicka recovery by 20%. Like channelled focus it's another investment into recovery but it lacks any utility and doesnt stack with potions. Atleast channelled focus is a shield, gives a snare and provides major mending.

    I'm using Channeled Focus as well, but it does lock you into place and I can count the seconds on my hand until a red zone of stupid appears at my feet. I'm using the Aura because I don't want to use Potions for every fight (there aren't that many flowers in the Hollow City for that ....) and applying Magic Cost reduction on all jewelry would drive my already low spell damage even further into the ground.

    Maybe I've missed something, but this was one of the few options I found that fit my templar build (dps, DW/Resto) and helped with regen issues.

    It just doesn't do enough. Slotting both repentance and radiant aura both passively give 10% regen. All radiant auras does is give 10% more magicka regen while repentance gives a huge heal and stamina regen for corpses.

    Channeled focus gives more regen, major mending and a shield.
  • Lightspeedflashb14_ESO
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    Drdeath20 wrote: »
    Drdeath20 wrote: »
    Well, I'm using Radiant Aura on my magplar to boost my magicka regen, which has been an issue lately. Seems like a good option.

    It cost magicka and it's main benefit is to increase magicka recovery by 20%. Like channelled focus it's another investment into recovery but it lacks any utility and doesnt stack with potions. Atleast channelled focus is a shield, gives a snare and provides major mending.

    I'm using Channeled Focus as well, but it does lock you into place and I can count the seconds on my hand until a red zone of stupid appears at my feet. I'm using the Aura because I don't want to use Potions for every fight (there aren't that many flowers in the Hollow City for that ....) and applying Magic Cost reduction on all jewelry would drive my already low spell damage even further into the ground.

    Maybe I've missed something, but this was one of the few options I found that fit my templar build (dps, DW/Resto) and helped with regen issues.

    It just doesn't do enough. Slotting both repentance and radiant aura both passively give 10% regen. All radiant auras does is give 10% more magicka regen while repentance gives a huge heal and stamina regen for corpses.

    Channeled focus gives more regen, major mending and a shield.

    I actually stacks, just like pots do, so technically you are getting 30% more regen from the skill. Doesn't make it good though.
  • Brrrofski
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    Well, I'm using Radiant Aura on my magplar to boost my magicka regen, which has been an issue lately. Seems like a good option.

    Just take a magica potion. It's the same buff. It's completely useless.

    If it gave minor it may actually be a choice in seem situations. Currently, Repentance or just slot another skill entirely.
  • cedheimb16_ESO2
    After the single target proxy det nerf I tested unstable core morph of eclipse, for a while. It is not terrible but has a few major flaws. Enduring rays passive is still increasing the duration of it, which is directly negative so if you use the skill you have to avoid taking that passive. It is essentially Templar velocious curse which can be put multiple targets and explodes with slight aoe. The damage is not quite good enough to be reliable in a burst combo, like vc is. Imo enduring rays could continue increasing the duration but then also increase the damage of the explosion.
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