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As a templar, Does anyone use healing ritual, solar barrage, radiant aura and/or eclipse?
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Drdeath20✭✭✭✭✭
✭dancing.in.the.webeb17_ESO wrote: »I like solar barrage. It's good AoE spam and somewhat like pre-nerfed impulse.
But it's less powerful and has less utility than sweeps and morphing to it causes you to miss out on on one of the hardest hitting range spells in the game, in dark flare.1 -
Drdeath20✭✭✭✭✭
✭- Healing Ritual - This is probably the worst active ability in the entire game. A burst heal with a casting time is pretty much useless in 99% of situations. I've seen people say they spam this on flags but I think there is always something better to slot.
- Solar Barrage - To my knowledge Dark Flare is preferred most of the time. Puncturing sweep is a better AOE skill.
- Radiant Aura - The big buff from this skill does not stack with potions, and the Repentance morph is free to cast. Repentance wins.
- Eclipse - Honestly I don't know. This skill has been buggy for so long that I just never slot it. Maybe it's awesome sometimes, maybe not.
Pretty much exactly this, except:
• Healing Ritual - Strong AoE heal. Makes a good spammable skill for mindless zerging "tactics". Plz replace with a more valuable ability.
• Solar Barrage - This is honestly a really nice skill. The issue is that you might as well use Puncturing Sweeps for the healing/snare (better) and Dark Flare is a valuable but very different spell. Sort of deserves to be its own skill with its own morphs.
• Radiant Aura - Not bad, but Repentance is simply superior.
• Eclipse - This skill is both buggy and made weak from being rammed with nerfs. Plz buff.
There skills are nice ,except eclipse, but the other morph versions offer soo much more. It makes them unusuable. I'm glad it's not just me that views these skills this way. Nice post op.1 -
leeux✭✭✭✭✭Eclipse used to be very good when back in the day you could reflect a reflect... was good to disable DK's flappy wings, but only if he wasn't paying attention
Sadly, now that the game was changed to only allow one single reflect, it's usefulness was reduced dramatically.
Couple that with the fact that you can only cast one at time (which limits its usefulness in PvE land too), and it can be break-free as it was a stun, and you can see that it almost never worth a slot on any bar.
Very very subpar ability, sadly.PC/NA - Proud old member of the Antique Ordinatus Populus
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Drdeath20✭✭✭✭✭
✭Eclipse used to be very good when back in the day you could reflect a reflect... was good to disable DK's flappy wings, but only if he wasn't paying attention
Sadly, now that the game was changed to only allow one single reflect, it's usefulness was reduced dramatically.
Couple that with the fact that you can only cast one at time (which limits its usefulness in PvE land too), and it can be break-free as it was a stun, and you can see that it almost never worth a slot on any bar.
Very very subpar ability, sadly.
I always wondered about reflecting a reflect with it. That would be awesome. That would totally mess with some elite groups.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Radiant Aura has some niche uses. If you are running with multiple templars, repentance is covered. If you choose to run with pots that don't provide 20% regen like vitality pots then it's nice to get the bonus elsewhere. I like the redundancy this spell provides even if it's not used all that often.0 -
Kinare✭✭Solar Barrage is pretty and I like AoE so I used that a lot back in closed beta in combination with the dual-wield AoE (can't recall the name without looking it up). I even took screenshots of me being shiny while using it because I liked it so much (looked like my kitty had fire wings if I got the angle and timing just right). But, since PVP was my favorite thing to do, I pretty much had to reset my skills and get Dark Flare for that reduced healing effect. I absolutely HATE the cast time on it, but it's very useful and if you do plan to PVP, definitely get Dark Flare over SB.
Kinda glad I found this thread regarding Eclipse because I had no idea it was still buggy. I found it useful but sometimes buggy in the beta for some PVE instances and 1 v 1 PVP we had set up, so I was going to spec into it again just in case... I guess not, now.
As for Lingering Ritual... I'm really confused about all the hate. Just because of the cast time? I get not liking Healing Ritual, but Lingering Ritual is great and worth slotting imo. The other heal is instant, yes, but costly in return for that and I only use it when I need the quick burst healing and not just some sustain. Early on it's just not viable to use only that when you need to keep healing for a long period of time. Trust me, I tried, and I've got most of my points put into mag! I do agree though that if you had to choose just one to slot, it has to be an instant heal because if you're only slotting one you're saving it for "oh ***" moments and a cast time is gonna screw you over. LR is meant to be kept up by dedicated healers, not as a quick emergency heal.
I'm unfamiliar with the auras at the moment so I'm reserving my comments on that. Everyone seems to have a different conclusion on it here too, so it seems like there isn't one definitive answer and will vary based on your playstyle/group situation.Edited by Kinare on August 22, 2016 11:12PM1 -
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✭Everyone seems to have a different conclusion on it here too, so it seems like there isn't one definitive answer and will vary based on your playstyle/group situation.
I agree with you about the Auras. Some people will basically call you stupid for using a certain ability even though it works for you/ your group.0 -
JKith✭✭✭healing ritual - no way, cast time makes it useless
solar barrage - no way, doesn't do major defile like Dark Flare and has reduced damage
radiant aura - no way, how can you beat free heals on corpses and stam regen for your group?
eclipse - no way, compeltely useless for PvE, but Maybe useful for PvP,.. but I don't PvP that much atm.. so wouldn't knowEdited by JKith on August 23, 2016 2:54AM1 -
Stannum✭✭✭✭dancing.in.the.webeb17_ESO wrote: »I like solar barrage. It's good AoE spam and somewhat like pre-nerfed impulse.
But it's less powerful and has less utility than sweeps and morphing to it causes you to miss out on on one of the hardest hitting range spells in the game, in dark flare.
But it covers much more area then sweep (so it's like jabs and nado for stamplar, you use both in different situations), grants empower, gives minor sorcery and regens ulti.
As for DF, It may be makes sence in PvP, but in PvE DF is not good fo rotation for long cast time.Edited by Stannum on August 23, 2016 6:06AM0 -
Wreuntzylla✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Ritual of Rebirth for group PvP. If you don't know why, stick with Honor the Dead.
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Drdeath20✭✭✭✭✭
✭Wreuntzylla wrote: »Ritual of Rebirth for group PvP. If you don't know why, stick with Honor the Dead.
Because it's stronger and is a guaranteed heal?
It's just that it takes much longer than 1.3 seconds for the heal to apply. It's more like 4 seconds from the time you push the button to the time the heal is actually applied.Edited by Drdeath20 on August 23, 2016 8:37PM2 -
Rudyard✭✭✭Unstable Core (Eclipse morph) has it's uses in PVP when trying to burst damage but stay at range. It needs a buff, though, as damage is so-so.Deacon Grim1
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Wreuntzylla✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Wreuntzylla wrote: »Ritual of Rebirth for group PvP. If you don't know why, stick with Honor the Dead.
Because it's stronger and is a guaranteed heal?
It's just that it takes much longer than 1.3 seconds for the heal to apply. It's more like 4 seconds from the time you push the button to the time the heal is actually applied.
I am not having that problem. When was the last time you tested it?
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Drdeath20✭✭✭✭✭
✭Wreuntzylla wrote: »Wreuntzylla wrote: »Ritual of Rebirth for group PvP. If you don't know why, stick with Honor the Dead.
Because it's stronger and is a guaranteed heal?
It's just that it takes much longer than 1.3 seconds for the heal to apply. It's more like 4 seconds from the time you push the button to the time the heal is actually applied.
I am not having that problem. When was the last time you tested it?
I just tested it 10 minutes ago right before the maintenance on ps4. I pushed my heal ,ritual of rebirth, button and 4 Mississippi later my character finished his animation. I know its not exact but i feel it works.
Yeah you get a cheaper heal that heals 30% more to caster and is guaranteed but you have a few second delay and for distance healing it's not an option. I think I might like this heal now.
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RedFireDisco✭✭✭✭Healing ritual should be renamed to take-a-beating-over-2-seconds-ritual
See if you can outheal the 10k+ damge you receive while casting this monstrosity. lol.1 -
undefeatdgaul✭✭✭its sad that vigor is better than all of them combined. repentance is the only templar heal worth having0
