17 New Monster Sets In UPDATE 12! :D

DRXHarbinger

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

This better not be a troll. We're going to need to more than one pledge a day.

@DRXHarbinger
ZOS announce adding vet dungeons to all dungeons and that completing a vet dungeon guarantees 100% monster helm drop.

Is that an actual zos announcement? Not trying to hate on it it's epic news...like the best news this year imo. Just wants it to be true.

AzraelKrieg

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

This better not be a troll. We're going to need to more than one pledge a day.

@DRXHarbinger
ZOS announce adding vet dungeons to all dungeons and that completing a vet dungeon guarantees 100% monster helm drop.

Is that an actual zos announcement? Not trying to hate on it it's epic news...like the best news this year imo. Just wants it to be true.

Yeah, was announced at Gamescom. Shame they had technically difficulties and couldn't stream it.

Asmael

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

This better not be a troll. We're going to need to more than one pledge a day.

@DRXHarbinger
ZOS announce adding vet dungeons to all dungeons and that completing a vet dungeon guarantees 100% monster helm drop.

Yeah, monster HELM, which is nice, don't get me wrong, but... Those shoulders tho...

Finally an excuse to get rid of prosp / training for these I guess, but the RNG with double the sets is going to be like vMA before they updated the weapon drop chance (for short: absolutely infuriating).

At this point, might as well add undaunted chests inside every dungeon, that way I go at the entrance of City of Ash and get a guaranteed Valkyn Skoria shoulder, still with random weight and trait, but that's still better than 28 sets * 3 weights * 8 traits = 1 chance out of 672, which, since we get 1.5 shoulders a day (50% from silver), would only take about... 448 days to get a specific shoulder.

EDIT: word failed. please kill me.

DRXHarbinger

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

This better not be a troll. We're going to need to more than one pledge a day.

@DRXHarbinger
ZOS announce adding vet dungeons to all dungeons and that completing a vet dungeon guarantees 100% monster helm drop.

Is that an actual zos announcement? Not trying to hate on it it's epic news...like the best news this year imo. Just wants it to be true.

Yeah, was announced at Gamescom. Shame they had technically difficulties and couldn't stream it.

Lord Sidious Goooood meme required for this. Ice heart wants to be nice and hard to kill now too.

Vaoh

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

This better not be a troll. We're going to need to more than one pledge a day.

@DRXHarbinger
ZOS announce adding vet dungeons to all dungeons and that completing a vet dungeon guarantees 100% monster helm drop.

Is that an actual zos announcement? Not trying to hate on it it's epic news...like the best news this year imo. Just wants it to be true.

Yeah, was announced at Gamescom. Shame they had technically difficulties and couldn't stream it.

Lord Sidious Goooood meme required for this. Ice heart wants to be nice and hard to kill now too.

Yup. 100% monster helm drop rate as well!

Confirmed.

And Iceheart is mine...

TIP: SAVE YOUR SILVER/GOLD KEYS FOR UPDATE 12

Vaoh

Was also stated everything would be placed on PTS sometime by the end of this month (yes, August). So soon! One Tamriel and everything else!

Dagoth_Rac

Oh god. This sounds horrible. The RNG on shoulders is going to be brutal. A 1 in 30 chance of chest having the shoulder set you want? So that means, on average, a month of doing the daily pledge to get 1 piece you want. And then it will probably be a lousy trait or wrong weight. And the vendor in Cyrodiil will go, on average, 14 months between the shoulder piece you want. And Cyrodiil vendor is a guaranteed bad trait for PvE (Infused is borderline worthless on a shoulder).

Guaranteed head drop of a specific set and Bind-On-Group will make the head piece a reasonable grind. But something needs to be done about the shoulders. 30 keys, on average, for a shoulder you want. 90 keys, on average, for the shoulder you want in preferred weight. 720 keys, on average, for the shoulder you want in preferred weight and preferred trait. That is ridiculous.

NewBlacksmurf

Asmael wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

This better not be a troll. We're going to need to more than one pledge a day.

@DRXHarbinger
ZOS announce adding vet dungeons to all dungeons and that completing a vet dungeon guarantees 100% monster helm drop.

Yeah, monster HELM, which is nice, don't get me wrong, but... Those shoulders tho...

Finally an excuse to get rid of prosp / training for these I guess, but the RNG with double the sets is going to be like vMA before they updated the weapon drop chance (for short: absolutely infuriating).

At this point, might as well add undaunted chests inside every dungeon, that way I go at the entrance of City of Ash and get a guaranteed Valkyn Skoria shoulder, still with random weight and trait, but that's still better than 28 sets * 3 weights * 8 traits = 1 chance out of 672, which, since we get 1.5 shoulders a day (50% from silver), would only take about... 448 days to get a specific shoulder.

EDIT: word failed. please kill me.

Honestly they should bring back all those chests they removed at launch inside dungeons and offer a chance for shoulders. Just remove the pledges and do something else's there in place cause it seems only logical to have six pledges with One Tamriel

Cinbri

I still didnt get how we get all 17. Number of dungs without vr mode is much less than 17. Does old dung will drop like 2 sets or new vr will be absoultelly new story and new sets as well? Like Engine guardian wil ldrop from normal but new dwemer set from vr?

AzraelKrieg

Cinbri wrote: »

I still didnt get how we get all 17. Number of dungs without vr mode is much less than 17. Does old dung will drop like 2 sets or new vr will be absoultelly new story and new sets as well? Like Engine guardian wil ldrop from normal but new dwemer set from vr?

What is going to happen is that dungeons will be separated by the story. So Darkshade Caverns has two stories for example. One for normal mode and one for vet. What will happen is that each story will have a normal and vet version so the version where you follow Nedris will have a vet version and the Engine Guardian will be it's own vet version.

NewBlacksmurf

Cinbri wrote: »

I still didnt get how we get all 17. Number of dungs without vr mode is much less than 17. Does old dung will drop like 2 sets or what?

@Cinbri
Also add in the newer dungeons in DLCs.
http://tamrieljournal.com/eso-group-dungeons/

Aldmeri Dominion Group Dungeons
1. Banished Cells (level 12-15 on Normal Mode)
2. Elden Hollow (level 20-23 on Normal Mode)
3. City of Ash (level 28-31 on Normal Mode)
4. Tempest Island (level 35-36 on Normal Mode)
5. Selene’s Web (level 40-43 on Normal Mode)

Daggerfall Covenant Group Dungeons
6. Spindle Clutch (level 12-15 on Normal Mode)
7. Way Rest Sewers (level 20-23 on Normal Mode)
8. Crypt of Hearts (level 28-31 on Normal Mode)
9. Volenfel (level 35-36 on Normal Mode)
10. Black Heart Haven (level 40-43 on Normal Mode)

Ebonheart Pact Group Dungeons
11. Fungal Grotto (level 12-15 on Normal Mode )
12. Dark Shade Caverns (level 20-23 on Normal Mode)
13. Arx Corinium (level 28-31 on Normal Mode)
14. Dire Frost Keep (level 35-36 on Normal Mode)
15. Blessed Crucible (level 40-43 on Normal Mode)

Coldharbour Dungeon
16. Vaults of Madness (level 47-50 on Normal Mode)

Cinbri

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

I still didnt get how we get all 17. Number of dungs without vr mode is much less than 17. Does old dung will drop like 2 sets or new vr will be absoultelly new story and new sets as well? Like Engine guardian wil ldrop from normal but new dwemer set from vr?

What is going to happen is that dungeons will be separated by the story. So Darkshade Caverns has two stories for example. One for normal mode and one for vet. What will happen is that each story will have a normal and vet version so the version where you follow Nedris will have a vet version and the Engine Guardian will be it's own vet version.

So than todays normal mode story in Darkshade will have new monster set coz in the end we fought vs guardian that drop it (Sentinel of Rkugamz) and todays vr mode will drop engine as it was?

AzraelKrieg

Cinbri wrote: »

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

I still didnt get how we get all 17. Number of dungs without vr mode is much less than 17. Does old dung will drop like 2 sets or new vr will be absoultelly new story and new sets as well? Like Engine guardian wil ldrop from normal but new dwemer set from vr?

What is going to happen is that dungeons will be separated by the story. So Darkshade Caverns has two stories for example. One for normal mode and one for vet. What will happen is that each story will have a normal and vet version so the version where you follow Nedris will have a vet version and the Engine Guardian will be it's own vet version.

So than todays normal mode story in Darkshade will have new monster set coz in the end we fought vs guardian that drop it (Sentinel of Rkugamz) and todays vr mode will drop engine as it was?

Correct but the current normal Darkshade will get an amped up Vet version where the helm drop is guaranteed.

thewolphub17_ESO

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

Hopefully this will mean more tank sets, honestly.

The only usefull ones right now are mighty Chuldan and engine guardian, I would like to see some magicka tank sets plox.

That doesn't even make sense to me. I mean, please correct me if I'm wrong, as I only play a DK Tank, but the 2 piece bonus on Mighty Chudan is worthless.

" While equipped you gain Major Ward and Major Resolve, increasing your Physical and Spell Resistance by 5280."

Doesn't every class already have access to Majore Ward/Resolve in the form of a self buff (With added utility as well)? They don't stack, correct? I get that you could free up a slot on your hotbar for something else, but it just doesn't seem worth wearing two pieces of armor for one new ability slot when there are other Monster Sets that could provide something better already.

AzraelKrieg

thewolphub17_ESO wrote: »

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

Hopefully this will mean more tank sets, honestly.

The only usefull ones right now are mighty Chuldan and engine guardian, I would like to see some magicka tank sets plox.

That doesn't even make sense to me. I mean, please correct me if I'm wrong, as I only play a DK Tank, but the 2 piece bonus on Mighty Chudan is worthless.

" While equipped you gain Major Ward and Major Resolve, increasing your Physical and Spell Resistance by 5280."

Doesn't every class already have access to Majore Ward/Resolve in the form of a self buff? They don't stack, correct? I get that you could free up a slot on your hotbar for something else, but it just doesn't seem worth wearing two pieces of armor for one new ability slot when there are other Monster Sets that could provide something better already.

For PvE tanking it does seem pointless. But for PvP tanking, not having to use up a slot to have the wards up is a good thing. Chudan is causing mayhem in PvP xD

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

thewolphub17_ESO wrote: »

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

Hopefully this will mean more tank sets, honestly.

The only usefull ones right now are mighty Chuldan and engine guardian, I would like to see some magicka tank sets plox.

That doesn't even make sense to me. I mean, please correct me if I'm wrong, as I only play a DK Tank, but the 2 piece bonus on Mighty Chudan is worthless.

" While equipped you gain Major Ward and Major Resolve, increasing your Physical and Spell Resistance by 5280."

Doesn't every class already have access to Majore Ward/Resolve in the form of a self buff? They don't stack, correct? I get that you could free up a slot on your hotbar for something else, but it just doesn't seem worth wearing two pieces of armor for one new ability slot when there are other Monster Sets that could provide something better already.

100% correct. Plus you get all the benefits from the skill, in the case of the dk you get 12% more heals. Plus damage or a ward. So the set is pretty worthless.

Lancillotto

If only the monster sets didn't look so ugly... and why is the shoulder piece always on one side only??
do they want my character to get scoliosis? -_-

heystreethawk

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

thewolphub17_ESO wrote: »

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

Hopefully this will mean more tank sets, honestly.

The only usefull ones right now are mighty Chuldan and engine guardian, I would like to see some magicka tank sets plox.

That doesn't even make sense to me. I mean, please correct me if I'm wrong, as I only play a DK Tank, but the 2 piece bonus on Mighty Chudan is worthless.

" While equipped you gain Major Ward and Major Resolve, increasing your Physical and Spell Resistance by 5280."

Doesn't every class already have access to Majore Ward/Resolve in the form of a self buff? They don't stack, correct? I get that you could free up a slot on your hotbar for something else, but it just doesn't seem worth wearing two pieces of armor for one new ability slot when there are other Monster Sets that could provide something better already.

Chudan is causing mayhem in PvP xD

I shall tuck this phrase into my pocket, such that it may warm me with giggles when the nights grow dark.

psychotic13

Great news! When is update 12 supposed to hit?

ConeOfSilence

I don't know what they do but nerf them all :P

juhasman

psychotic13 wrote: »

Great news! When is update 12 supposed to hit?

PTS hit in 2 weeks update itself in october

code65536

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

I still didnt get how we get all 17. Number of dungs without vr mode is much less than 17. Does old dung will drop like 2 sets or new vr will be absoultelly new story and new sets as well? Like Engine guardian wil ldrop from normal but new dwemer set from vr?

What is going to happen is that dungeons will be separated by the story. So Darkshade Caverns has two stories for example. One for normal mode and one for vet. What will happen is that each story will have a normal and vet version so the version where you follow Nedris will have a vet version and the Engine Guardian will be it's own vet version.

Currently:
Normal Darkshade: Easy, original story
Vet Darkshade: Slightly harder, sequel to the original story

Update 12:
Normal Darkshade Chapter 1: Easy, original story
Vet Darkshade Chapter 1: Much harder, original story
Normal Darkshade Chapter 2: Easy, sequel to the original story
Vet Darkshade Chapter 2: Much harder, sequel to the original story

So instead of 2 versions of Darkshade, we'll have 4 versions of it: 2 different story versions, each with a separate difficulty tier.

Right now, "Vet" means two different things. For the first 8 dungeons, "Vet" means "sequel" and "somewhat harder than normal". For everything else--vMA, vMoL, vSO, vICP, vRoM, etc.--"Vet" means "exact same story and content as normal" and "much harder difficulty".

After this change, "Vet" will always mean the same thing: same story and content as normal, much harder difficulty. A lot of the complaints that we have about "Vet" in this game stems from people who got used to "Vet" being only a slightly harder faceroll (think Vet Wayrest, lol), and then are shocked to see the much harder "Vet" in ICP, RoM, Maelstrom, etc. Standardizing what "Vet" means will help a lot.

They also mentioned that they'll be doing a complete overhaul of the pledge system, and hopefully this will involve something that gets people to stop turning their nose up at normal difficulty.

Skander

Does anyone knows yet what they will give?

code65536

The PTS is slated for the end of this month--so in just a couple of weeks, so you'll find out all the details very soon.

NewbieOKS

https://youtu.be/DWveEuFVP9E

Gamescom 2016 Interview with Matt Firor

https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/

Cinbri

Information is really awesome. I hope info about pvp improvements will be on same epic. I really do.

psychotic13

With all these new monster sets I really hope see some things like a 1pc mag recovery/max magicka not lots more health ones

Drungly

Don't worry guys, the new sets will be completely useless with stupid bonuses which nobody wants. Like 90% of all the sets in this game. In the end the undaunted RNG will be an even bigger nightmare.

belacub18_ESO

@ZOS_GinaBruno
Seems like I am the only one who is really sad that there won't be a new story of all the previous only "normal" mode dungeons.

code65536

belacub18_ESO wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno
Seems like I am the only one who is really sad that there won't be a new story of all the previous only "normal" mode dungeons.

It's a big step in the right direction, though, and it lays the groundwork for continuing the stories that were unresolved (Volenfell, Selene's and Vaults, in particular).

Finally, this talk of 17 new masks doesn't quite add up, since there are only 16 normal-mode dungeons in the base game. Either the 17 is an error and they really meant 16, or one of those dungeons is finally getting a sequel.