What would you rather spend Crowns on than Lottery Boxes?

KICHZY

Although i purchase many things from the crown store and still will, I wont support the practice of chance boxes at all regardless of the contents they may contain. I really hope they reconsider this decision.

KingMagaw

First step towards serious Pay2Win.


If crown store items are in lockboxes, changes nothing as you can just buy the items off crown store. Only way E$O will introduce these is like maelstrom weapons in them or something of the like.


Additionally adding more junk without addressing the original and daily problems this game has is down right dumb.

Acrolas

Blind boxes aren't bad so long as there's consistent value in them. If person A gets a Frost Mare, and person B gets 10 Crown Mimic stone and 5 XP Scrolls, that's not consistent.

I'd really rather the box price be something like 3000 and always have limited item(s) worth at least 2500 and a small consumable pack worth at least 500. I don't want it to be gambling 500 crowns apiece on the slim chance of something worth 2500+ but mostly just getting consumables and ***.

CasNation

To answer the question in the OP: literally anything else.

Mx13

I'm just going to leave this here.

Crown Store: There will be "purely cosmetic" Loot Crates for about 400 crowns each. The chance to get items from the crates is based on how expensive/rare the items were/are. So lower chance for rare items and a chance you'll only get crap. All items that can be in there were or will be in the crown store before they get into the boxes. No exclusive items in there.

Items (potions/upgrades/xp scrolls etc.)

Costumes/Personalities (Current ones/new ones and old limited time ones)

Mounts and Pets (new ones that are currently in the store and old limited time ones even the ones that never have been in the crown store on console, they can also have mounts/pets from digital collectors editons. Excluded: Imperial Edition and eso sub reward mount/costume)

Source

starkerealm

Mx13 wrote: »

I'm just going to leave this here.

Crown Store: There will be "purely cosmetic" Loot Crates for about 400 crowns each. The chance to get items from the crates is based on how expensive/rare the items were/are. So lower chance for rare items and a chance you'll only get crap. All items that can be in there were or will be in the crown store before they get into the boxes. No exclusive items in there.

Items (potions/upgrades/xp scrolls etc.)

Costumes/Personalities (Current ones/new ones and old limited time ones)

Mounts and Pets (new ones that are currently in the store and old limited time ones even the ones that never have been in the crown store on console, they can also have mounts/pets from digital collectors editons. Excluded: Imperial Edition and eso sub reward mount/costume)

Source

I could kiss you, but I still want to vomit. I guess it's at your own risk...

RAGUNAnoOne

Stupid zenimax is putting RNG in the crown store now!? this game has enough RNG in the base and DLC content EVERY aspect in this game is RNG now the cash shop. Does someone get high from watching people get F'd over by bad luck or something that is the only possible explanation I can come up with for all the RNG in this game.

Iluvrien

Ye gods. This is going to be as bad as TU all over again.

No, just no.

Darkonflare15

Meh really do not care. It just cosmetic crown store stuff. People kept complaing about bringing stuff back that was limited back to the crown store. Now you can get the stuff with the loot boxes. Now it makes sense why they kept taking stuff out of the crown store. As long it does not impact the game, I am fine with it. I do not like to spend money on much anyway so not really a concern to me.

NewBlacksmurf

CasNation wrote: »

To answer the question in the OP: literally anything else.

My answer as well

Esquire1980g_ESO

I left STO due to "lockboxes" and I bought the "lifer" over there, 300.00+ invested. As other people have said, lockboxes are the 1st step to major P2W. P2W kills PVP entirely, and games suffer accordingly.

If ZOS does this, I guess I'll put back up my SWGEMU servers and be completely done with AAA studios, period.

Kendaric

I'll spend my crowns the same way I always did... directly on costumes mostly, followed by mounts & pets. I have no intention of ever touching the lockboxes.

Thealteregoroman

ummm.................so we gonna act like we didn't just read that they are introducing new skill lines?!?!?!

Abeille

Thealteregoroman wrote: »

ummm.................so we gonna act like we didn't just read that they are introducing new skill lines?!?!?!

I will repeat what I said on Reddit.
Not even announcing Vvardenfell would make me happy after learning of the RNG boxes. Let alone new skill lines.

Thealteregoroman

Abeille wrote: »

Thealteregoroman wrote: »

ummm.................so we gonna act like we didn't just read that they are introducing new skill lines?!?!?!

I will repeat what I said on Reddit.
Not even announcing Vvardenfell would make me happy after learning of the RNG boxes. Let alone new skill lines.

I already bought everything mounts and pets from crown store so I guess the boxes really won't do anything for me.....

but skill lines...........

Abeille

Thealteregoroman wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

Thealteregoroman wrote: »

ummm.................so we gonna act like we didn't just read that they are introducing new skill lines?!?!?!

I will repeat what I said on Reddit.
Not even announcing Vvardenfell would make me happy after learning of the RNG boxes. Let alone new skill lines.

I already bought everything mounts and pets from crown store so I guess the boxes really won't do anything for me.....

but skill lines...........

It would be all fine and dandy if it were just previous Crown Store content, and if everything that went into the boxes went to the Crown Store through direct purchase before.
But this is not how they are doing it.
They are adding exclusive content to the RNG boxes. I find this absolutely outrageous.

Now my only hopes are that they either change their mind, or that all the "super special mounts" that are exclusive to RNG boxes are ridiculously flashy (so not my style anyway).

NewBlacksmurf

Abeille wrote: »

Thealteregoroman wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

Thealteregoroman wrote: »

ummm.................so we gonna act like we didn't just read that they are introducing new skill lines?!?!?!

I will repeat what I said on Reddit.
Not even announcing Vvardenfell would make me happy after learning of the RNG boxes. Let alone new skill lines.

I already bought everything mounts and pets from crown store so I guess the boxes really won't do anything for me.....

but skill lines...........

It would be all fine and dandy if it were just previous Crown Store content, and if everything that went into the boxes went to the Crown Store through direct purchase before.
But this is not how they are doing it.
They are adding exclusive content to the RNG boxes. I find this absolutely outrageous.

Now my only hopes are that they either change their mind, or that all the "super special mounts" that are exclusive to RNG boxes are ridiculously flashy (so not my style anyway).

THANK
YOU for the video.....

Lumenn

Considering the way Zos rng seems to work I'm not sure it'd be worth it. Maybe if it's guaranteed something you don't already have....my luck I'd get the wedding suit 10 times in a row....

Cazzy

Lumenn wrote: »

Considering the way Zos rng seems to work I'm not sure it'd be worth it. Maybe if it's guaranteed something you don't already have....my luck I'd get the wedding suit 10 times in a row....

It absolutely should not be allowed to work that way. If you give money then you should expect a fair transaction. No duplicates!

Silver_Strider

RNG in the crown store huh?
And here I was, holding out the smallest inkling of hope that ZOS was going to improve. If this becomes the gateway for P2W in ESO, then I won't feel bad that I left the game.

Lumenn

Cazzy wrote: »

Lumenn wrote: »

Considering the way Zos rng seems to work I'm not sure it'd be worth it. Maybe if it's guaranteed something you don't already have....my luck I'd get the wedding suit 10 times in a row....

It absolutely should not be allowed to work that way. If you give money then you should expect a fair transaction. No duplicates!

I agree. But I haven't seen anything saying there won't be. And considering zos and their rng I can EASILY see getting exp potions, or a cheap hat coming up quite often for supposedly "rng"

NewBlacksmurf

Cazzy wrote: »

Lumenn wrote: »

Considering the way Zos rng seems to work I'm not sure it'd be worth it. Maybe if it's guaranteed something you don't already have....my luck I'd get the wedding suit 10 times in a row....

It absolutely should not be allowed to work that way. If you give money then you should expect a fair transaction. No duplicates!

Actually I disagree
If you're charging real money it should exclude actual purchased items.

See it's illegal to play the lotery in some areas and this game already charged me real money for a lot of crown items I wanted but if I'm using a lotery box....I expect things I purchased outright to be removed from the loot table.

And that's fair cause this takes into account the amount of real money I've already spent.
I'm OK with getting potions, exp scrolls, again but mounts, motif, costumes, and unlocked purchases should be excluded per user based on previous purchases.

Cazzy

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Cazzy wrote: »

Lumenn wrote: »

Considering the way Zos rng seems to work I'm not sure it'd be worth it. Maybe if it's guaranteed something you don't already have....my luck I'd get the wedding suit 10 times in a row....

It absolutely should not be allowed to work that way. If you give money then you should expect a fair transaction. No duplicates!

Actually I disagree
If you're charging real money it should exclude actual purchased items.

See it's illegal to play the lotery in some areas and this game already charged me real money for a lot of crown items I wanted but if I'm using a lotery box....I expect things I purchased outright to be removed from the loot table.

And that's fair cause this takes into account the amount of real money I've already spent.
I'm OK with getting potions, exp scrolls, again but mounts, motif, costumes, and unlocked purchases should be excluded per user based on previous purchases.

That's actually what I meant I agree 100%.

Doctordarkspawn

starkerealm wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

phairdon wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

I honestly think the Crown Store is good as it is. Mounts, pets, costumes, personalities, and they are adding new hair styles too eventually. That's what I spend Crowns on. Other than black hair dye, there is nothing new I can think of right now that I think they should add.

About the boxes, I loathe lottery boxes. But as long as they only drop things that were previously up for sale directly (limited time cosmetics that were removed already), I'm ok with it. Now, if/when they add "Lottery Boxes exclusives", then I'll have a real problem with it.

Also if they drop in game. Holy *** ***, I hate lockbox drops.

The only game that used a lockbox system that wasn't godawful was DCUO. And that was only because subscribers could crack the boxes for free. A system like that, I could live with... anything else? Not so much. Especially if they're sticking new stuff in those boxes.

GW2's boxes really left a bad taste on my mouth, even if they were dropped and not necessarily bought. Every event ended up consisting in farming boxes for the duration of the event because almost every new cosmetic was in the stupid boxes. I absolutely hate it.

Fortunately this game does not have the same type of dynamic events GW2 has. Yes, the game became very toxic because of what you mentioned, which of course lead to a lot of nerfs.

I was speaking of seasonal events, like Wintersday and Mad King's Day (Christmas and Halloween). Each of them came with a new kind of box, and inside the box there were prizes and a new currency to trade for more prizes (but you needed several stacks of it). So. Many. Currencies. And while we could farm them for the duration of the event, they were also sold in bulk in the cash shop.

This year's Witches' Festival in ESO will have us farming bags that have prizes too. If theses bags end up in the Crown Store for the duration of the event, then it will not be so different from GW2, except seasonal events in GW2 were much larger.

And hopefully, we won't get banned over snowflake jewelry.

OMG I remember that lol

Though to be fair, it was kinda obvious that it was an exploit.

Also, I almost forgot. GW2 had the "Black Lion Chests" or something like that that dropped out in the world, but you needed a key to open it and the key only dropped from certain quests. People would make new characters and burn through the first few quests to farm the keys, because the alternative was buying keys in the cash shop.
GW2 let you buy the cash currency with gold, though, so some people also just farmed gold for that.

To be honest, I was always afraid that was what ESO would ultimately do, when it went F2P. And, because I came from Cryptic, I kinda expected they'd simply ration the existing lockpicks out of the game and expect you to pay for them, so as a result, I've ended up with something like 5k of the things that I've been hoarding compulsively.

Seems really unlikely now, but I can't bring myself to toss all those picks.

It's not free to play. It's buy to play. Get it right.

Doctordarkspawn

I'm not going to be spending crowns on anything else because at the moment there is nothing on the crown store I want.

As a rule, I've started waiting days after for others to buy DLC and tell me how it is, after the recent shafting I got on shadows of the hist. Now this hits and I'm going to be further strict on that rule. No buying crowns, at all, unless there is something I truely want.

Zeni. I have been here since the Beta. Not on this account, but still. I came here with Tamriel Unlimited, having not liked ballance in the beta. And now you actively make me want to see you stop earning money.

This has passed from a reasonable buisness model with some wonky price options to greed. Fire your sales lead. Do not go through with this.

Edit: I do not care if it is purely cosmetics. Because it's a barrier that WILL be crossed. If their allowed to do it with cosmetics they will do it with gameplay items like gearsets and other jthings. IT WILL HAPPEN. IT CANNOT BE ALLOWED TO HAPPEN.

starkerealm

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

phairdon wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

I honestly think the Crown Store is good as it is. Mounts, pets, costumes, personalities, and they are adding new hair styles too eventually. That's what I spend Crowns on. Other than black hair dye, there is nothing new I can think of right now that I think they should add.

About the boxes, I loathe lottery boxes. But as long as they only drop things that were previously up for sale directly (limited time cosmetics that were removed already), I'm ok with it. Now, if/when they add "Lottery Boxes exclusives", then I'll have a real problem with it.

Also if they drop in game. Holy *** ***, I hate lockbox drops.

The only game that used a lockbox system that wasn't godawful was DCUO. And that was only because subscribers could crack the boxes for free. A system like that, I could live with... anything else? Not so much. Especially if they're sticking new stuff in those boxes.

GW2's boxes really left a bad taste on my mouth, even if they were dropped and not necessarily bought. Every event ended up consisting in farming boxes for the duration of the event because almost every new cosmetic was in the stupid boxes. I absolutely hate it.

Fortunately this game does not have the same type of dynamic events GW2 has. Yes, the game became very toxic because of what you mentioned, which of course lead to a lot of nerfs.

I was speaking of seasonal events, like Wintersday and Mad King's Day (Christmas and Halloween). Each of them came with a new kind of box, and inside the box there were prizes and a new currency to trade for more prizes (but you needed several stacks of it). So. Many. Currencies. And while we could farm them for the duration of the event, they were also sold in bulk in the cash shop.

This year's Witches' Festival in ESO will have us farming bags that have prizes too. If theses bags end up in the Crown Store for the duration of the event, then it will not be so different from GW2, except seasonal events in GW2 were much larger.

And hopefully, we won't get banned over snowflake jewelry.

OMG I remember that lol

Though to be fair, it was kinda obvious that it was an exploit.

Also, I almost forgot. GW2 had the "Black Lion Chests" or something like that that dropped out in the world, but you needed a key to open it and the key only dropped from certain quests. People would make new characters and burn through the first few quests to farm the keys, because the alternative was buying keys in the cash shop.
GW2 let you buy the cash currency with gold, though, so some people also just farmed gold for that.

To be honest, I was always afraid that was what ESO would ultimately do, when it went F2P. And, because I came from Cryptic, I kinda expected they'd simply ration the existing lockpicks out of the game and expect you to pay for them, so as a result, I've ended up with something like 5k of the things that I've been hoarding compulsively.

Seems really unlikely now, but I can't bring myself to toss all those picks.

It's not free to play. It's buy to play. Get it right.

Yeah, but before TU was even announced? Yeah, the fear was the game would go F2P, not B2P. Remember those days? *Checks their profile.* Or you've been here for less than a month. Yeah, back in the day, the fear was the game would go F2P, rather than becoming what it is today. Especially after the content freeze was announced in the run up to the console release, but before TU was officially announced.

jedtb16_ESO

well.... it's not an either/or situation is it?

not like you have to spend crowns on anything if you don't want to.

Docmandu

Just like to voice my concern over Crownstore keys and lockboxes... worst thing to ever hit B2P / F2P games.

FWIW.. I'm a fulltime sub.

NewBlacksmurf

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

well.... it's not an either/or situation is it?

not like you have to spend crowns on anything if you don't want to.

But you do if you want even a chance at some items.
See let's say there's a new awesome mount....Matt F says that special items not yet released have a chance to come from these loot crates. Not just past items

It's literally taking the idea of farming NPCs for great loot to paying real money to farm for great loot and no other way else to get those items.

jedtb16_ESO

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

well.... it's not an either/or situation is it?

not like you have to spend crowns on anything if you don't want to.

But you do if you want even a chance at some items.
See let's say there's a new awesome mount....Matt F says that special items not yet released have a chance to come from these loot crates. Not just past items

It's literally taking the idea of farming NPCs for great loot to paying real money to farm for great loot and no other way else to get those items.

hang on.... from what i read the items will be typical crown store stuff i.e. cosmetic junk.

nothing that is 'needed' to play nothing that gives an advantage..... if you want to chase that stuff fine, but it is your choice.