Icereach PC NA (Mulaamnir/Kyne/BWB NA PC - Final)

Raknosh

Stridig wrote: »

Those faction logos are annoying and most people turn them off as it's not too hard to know who the enemy is.

What? Who turns that off? I've even seen some people turn THEIR OWN FACTION logo on. Now that, I don't get it lol!


@TipsyDrow I think that snare removal/immunity on wings is too OP. Don't get me wrong, my main was a Magdk and I know they can use help in mobility, but putting it on one of their best skill (skill that they already buffed to 6 sec from 4 sec couple patch ago) is kinda bs... I would have put that buff into Igneous shield instead.

As for Templars .... ABOUT TIME! It was the only class that didn't have a proper armor buff. WWs? Major fracture, major brutality, howl cost decrease, can now rez/siege in WW form and skills will morph faster. I've always said WW was strong, now tho, they'll be terrifying!

As for sloads, don't forget it's now a projectile so it can be dodged and reflected. Also it wont proc off sieges anymore. I'm pretty happy with the nerf. Also happy about the catapult nerfed to 4.5 sec from 8 and siege shield will now cut siege dmg by 50%. People better start using them more!

Stridig

I really like the 8% AP bonus for owning DC, Brindle and Drake. I'm also glad degradation is back. It's about time they brought that back. Resources matter again.

An_An

EP/AD low pop bonus at 7 30 PM EST .... There are so few AD on that their leader-board doesn't even have 10 people yet ....

Much bored ... : (

Please log in and play

vamp_emily

An_An wrote: »

EP/AD low pop bonus at 7 30 PM EST .... There are so few AD on that their leader-board doesn't even have 10 people yet ....

Much bored ... : (

Please log in and play

Come to BGs, it is non stop fighting. You also get like 15k AP every battle.

MajBludd

Who wants to log in @An_An. DC has turned to gate camping lol

Enkil

Reap what you sew.

Sreja_Bone

If you rip what you sew, you reap what you sow.

Lumsdenml

I live in Tacoma... Here there is a lot of riping and reaping....

Enkil

Sreja_Bone wrote: »

If you rip what you sew, you reap what you sow.

Thanks for sharing the clever mnemonic. I'll leave the typo that iPad corrected so context of your post is not lost. Was gonna show pic of current Kyne map but I ain't go time to go putting on another site and all that.

Zerging is lame. Enjoy playing with yourselves... Cheers

MajBludd

Anybody play fortnite? If so, how is it?

TipsyDrow

vamp_emily wrote: »

An_An wrote: »

EP/AD low pop bonus at 7 30 PM EST .... There are so few AD on that their leader-board doesn't even have 10 people yet ....

Much bored ... : (

Please log in and play

Come to BGs, it is non stop fighting. You also get like 15k AP every battle.

BG's should be busy while everyone focuses on getting the new outfit.

TipsyDrow

MajBludd wrote: »

Who wants to log in @An_An. DC has turned to gate camping lol

I have no interest in gate camping. Log in and take the damned map back so i can stop grinding pysjiic skills.......please?

vamp_emily

@Swaye come to BG so me and An-An can beat you.

Swaye

@vamp_emily I'm far to fragile for BG's

kringled_1

Enkil wrote: »

Sreja_Bone wrote: »

If you rip what you sew, you reap what you sow.

Thanks for sharing the clever mnemonic. I'll leave the typo that iPad corrected so context of your post is not lost. Was gonna show pic of current Kyne map but I ain't go time to go putting on another site and all that.

Zerging is lame. Enjoy playing with yourselves... Cheers

Please. Get off your high horse.
Every faction zergs. Including EP. Or was I just imagining things when 40-60 EP came to Aleswell to wipe a group half their size? No, that was just 2 days ago.
Two of the last 3 days, when I've gone into Kyne, DC has not owned its own emp keeps. Today for a change, AD owned Rayles and DC owned Ash. EP owned all of its territory and then some.
Yes, there are currently some DC players who run up the score and grab scrolls. What do you expect other DC players to do about that?
Furthermore, if you care about campaign score (which your posts suggest you do), then either your group is participating in the large scale fights that move score in prime time (in which case welcome to the zerg), or if not, you don't really seem to have an argument beyond wanting a better score without doing any of the things that support it.
Yes, campaign score is probably overly dominated by small groups that play off-hours. This problem isn't unique to Kyne, and I haven't seen a good solution.

Enkil

kringled_1 wrote: »

Enkil wrote: »

Sreja_Bone wrote: »

If you rip what you sew, you reap what you sow.

Thanks for sharing the clever mnemonic. I'll leave the typo that iPad corrected so context of your post is not lost. Was gonna show pic of current Kyne map but I ain't go time to go putting on another site and all that.

Zerging is lame. Enjoy playing with yourselves... Cheers

Please. Get off your high horse.
Every faction zergs. Including EP. Or was I just imagining things when 40-60 EP came to Aleswell to wipe a group half their size? No, that was just 2 days ago.
Two of the last 3 days, when I've gone into Kyne, DC has not owned its own emp keeps. Today for a change, AD owned Rayles and DC owned Ash. EP owned all of its territory and then some.
Yes, there are currently some DC players who run up the score and grab scrolls. What do you expect other DC players to do about that?
Furthermore, if you care about campaign score (which your posts suggest you do), then either your group is participating in the large scale fights that move score in prime time (in which case welcome to the zerg), or if not, you don't really seem to have an argument beyond wanting a better score without doing any of the things that support it.
Yes, campaign score is probably overly dominated by small groups that play off-hours. This problem isn't unique to Kyne, and I haven't seen a good solution.

Whoa, why are you coming at me all aggressive implying I am presenting some argument for you to come here and rebut??

I repeat: Zerging and zerg surfing is lame and lazy gameplay no matter who does it, no matter what PvP game it is. This is my long-held opinion and I don't think it's one held by me alone.

Whatever else you are on about I do not care. You assume much, and we all know what they say about that.

Fur_like_snow

Well Kyne sounds like a wonderful place lately.

gabriebe

lol EP does plenty of zerg surfing of their own... just stop by Aleswell farm when Bleakers is red.

Enkil

gabriebe wrote: »

lol EP does plenty of zerg surfing of their own... just stop by Aleswell farm when Bleakers is red.

Lol yeah... we know and are constantly discouraging it. If they are the farm instead of north wall they don’t listen...

Datthaw

@Enkil I'm really confused by what your saying here. You get mad at people saying pugs, then you say you will pick them up and help them, but then you talk about zergs being lame. Since when is picking up people in zone to form a group and push objectives not pug zerging.

It is stupid to say zerging is lame and then complain about the campaign. That's how you flip keeps and get your score boosted. Not a bunch of 1vx wannabes flipping resources and never pushing anything.

kringled_1

What Datthaw said.

One of my other points was that in U.S primetime, for the last few campaign cycles, DC has not had a population advantage, or really a territory advantage. DC has had a score advantage but that primarily comes from off-hours players.
If you don't care about the final campaign score results, and play in primetime, then honestly I'm not sure where your complaints are coming from. You should be able to get in decent fights at multiple scales and at multiple locations.

Beaverton

An_An wrote: »

EP/AD low pop bonus at 7 30 PM EST .... There are so few AD on that their leader-board doesn't even have 10 people yet ....

Much bored ... : (

Please log in and play

I logged in on AD at about that time to feed my horse, saw we were gate camped, headed out alone (literally no one else around) to get some resources and was insta ganked by a small group of DC before I even got to the gate. Fun times.

Stridig

Beaverton wrote: »

An_An wrote: »

EP/AD low pop bonus at 7 30 PM EST .... There are so few AD on that their leader-board doesn't even have 10 people yet ....

Much bored ... : (

Please log in and play

I logged in on AD at about that time to feed my horse, saw we were gate camped, headed out alone (literally no one else around) to get some resources and was insta ganked by a small group of DC before I even got to the gate. Fun times.

That sucks. It destroys campaigns for a while. The worst part is there are people who come on the forums and actually encourage this "playstyle". Such a bummer.

Marcus684

Beaverton wrote: »

An_An wrote: »

EP/AD low pop bonus at 7 30 PM EST .... There are so few AD on that their leader-board doesn't even have 10 people yet ....

Much bored ... : (

Please log in and play

I logged in on AD at about that time to feed my horse, saw we were gate camped, headed out alone (literally no one else around) to get some resources and was insta ganked by a small group of DC before I even got to the gate. Fun times.

Gate-campers are the lowest of the low. They tend to be mid-tier players that normally can’t even 1v1, but are really good at 5v1 with all of the scroll and emp buffs. All you can really do in that scenario is call for help, avoid them, or log off, cuz all they want is easy wins.

Stovahkiin

Fur_like_snow wrote: »

Well Kyne sounds like a wonderful place lately.

Just a bunch of drama and pvdooring. Time to move on to another campaign

Enkil

Datthaw wrote: »

@Enkil I'm really confused by what your saying here. You get mad at people saying pugs, then you say you will pick them up and help them, but then you talk about zergs being lame. Since when is picking up people in zone to form a group and push objectives not pug zerging.

It is stupid to say zerging is lame and then complain about the campaign. That's how you flip keeps and get your score boosted. Not a bunch of 1vx wannabes flipping resources and never pushing anything.

Zerging:
30players to capture an undefneded outpost so some don’t even get a hit in on guards
18 people to take farm, then lm, then mine.
“Hey, BRK is under attack by 10 AD at FD”. 30 EP respond and steamroll them.

Wiser/More fun:
10 people each smaller group go after 3 different objectives simultaneously
6 each go after all 3 resources same time.
“Hey, BRK is under attack by 10 AD at FD” 5-10 EP respond and the rest continue whatever offense they were working on.

Go Pug zerg (as you call it) all you want but it’s pretty hard to maintain that it is the only way to accomplish objectives or get a decent score.

[Edit to remove bait]

MajBludd

I like turtles

gabriebe

DC usually has multiple medium groups doing different things but coordinating to some extent.

Some of them even have.... gasp... pugs in em.

Zerging one place together is usually when we ran out of options, not the default.

Marcus684

Enkil wrote: »

Datthaw wrote: »

@Enkil I'm really confused by what your saying here. You get mad at people saying pugs, then you say you will pick them up and help them, but then you talk about zergs being lame. Since when is picking up people in zone to form a group and push objectives not pug zerging.

It is stupid to say zerging is lame and then complain about the campaign. That's how you flip keeps and get your score boosted. Not a bunch of 1vx wannabes flipping resources and never pushing anything.

Zerging:
30players to capture an undefneded outpost so some don’t even get a hit in on guards
18 people to take farm, then lm, then mine.
“Hey, BRK is under attack by 10 AD at FD”. 30 EP respond and steamroll them.

Wiser/More fun:
10 people each smaller group go after 3 different objectives simultaneously
6 each go after all 3 resources same time.
“Hey, BRK is under attack by 10 AD at FD” 5-10 EP respond and the rest continue whatever offense they were working on.

Go Pug zerg (as you call it) all you want but it’s pretty hard to maintain that it is the only way to accomplish objectives or get a decent score.

Ah. I think I understand now. You’re expecting organization in the “newbie” campaign beyond what is even reasonable to expect in a vet campaign. When someone calls out “10 AD FD Sej”, you want 10 EP to respond, when in reality anywhere from 0 to 50 or more will, depending on the individual player whims. When you’re soloing or small manning, you only want to encounter other soloers and small man groups, when in reality you’re going to occasionally get run over by 20 or more. 30 DC are going to hit Bleakers because, well, it’s Bleakers, plus you never know how many defenders you’re gonna get until you start attacking. In addition, Kyne has much less organization than any vet campaign, so you’re never going to see your preferred level of efficiency here.

Also, your definition of wisdom and fun may not match up with others’ definition. Is it “wise” for 10 to go to Nikel, when they could easily be overwhelmed by 30 defenders porting in? Is it “fun” for everyone involved if 6 newbie players try to take a level 5 resource and get wiped by the NPCs over and over again?

Enkil

Marcus684 wrote: »

Ah. I think I understand now. You’re expecting [...], you only want [...]

Clearly you do not. How are you telling me what I expect and [only] want?

I do not want to getting in to some petty little argument with you or any other DC players. Please stop trying to provoke one.