Icereach PC NA (Mulaamnir/Kyne/BWB NA PC - Final)

DeadlyRecluse

Stridig wrote: »

Yikes

BUCKLE UP!

Valen_Byte

Adenoma wrote: »

THEY FIXED DRAGONSBLOOD. QUICK, SHOW ME YOUR DK. I LOVE DKS.

I was thinking they fixed the Major buffs so that I could use tri-pots : (

Ill take what I can get tho : ))

Valen_Byte

Shines the ZOS signal into the air!!! (you know like the batman signal) @ZOS_DaryaK we need you

anamenobodyelsehas

Stridig wrote: »

anamenobodyelsehas wrote: »

So...how's about that Dragon Blood update? Pretty neat, huh?

Well we DO need something. Its hard to rely on whip and embers for a heal and Dragon Leap for an execute/damage shield. I'm ok without the execute but having a reliable heal will change how I'm forced to play. If it works it will be great.

I'm genuinely curious to see how moving the heal buff to Green Dragon Blood changes my stam-dk too.

Vurian97

That was extremely fast and reliable on ZoS's end.

Mjollo

Valen_Byte wrote: »

Shines the ZOS signal into the air!!! (you know like the batman signal) @ZOS_DaryaK we need you

no no no. wait wait. before this thread gets repercussions again, I would like @ZOS_DaryaK to please acknowledge that there is a specific body in this thread that causes trouble and that the rest of us have to put up with it.

Vyle_Byte

Thank you ZOS!

Valen_Byte

Valen_Byte wrote: »

Shines the ZOS signal into the air!!! (you know like the batman signal) @ZOS_DaryaK we need you

Ty

ColoursYouHave

Vyle_Byte wrote: »

Lumsdenml wrote: »

Fun defence at fare tonight! Swiss cheese, multiple breaches and manning multiple fire trebs to keep out yellows in wedding dresses!

Oh yes, fare... lol Valen and I tried so hard to get to there before it flipped, we were a tad too late and as soon as we came inside it flipped and the guards spawned and with that and you guys, we got smoked!

Then the group that went to attack it asked for help so we went... I couldn't believe after all the wipes that AD has seen EP and DC go through trying to front door a defended keep... there they were hitting the damn front door. Tried to help them, tried to tell them, wouldn't listen. We did what we could and I eventually left them to their idiocy. Something I don't think I have ever done. Told them in zone after I left how arrogant it was to think they could just waltz in the front door, undefended, sure whatever but defended? LOL No, just no.

I'm fairly sure they were the reason I got a massive headache so I went to bed and left them to their shenanigans lmfao!

I've seen the late-night AD Zerg repeatedly wipe trying to front door a well-defended Ash or Sej so many times that it doesn't even shock me anymore.

Stridig wrote: »

anamenobodyelsehas wrote: »

Stridig wrote: »

Yikes

So...how's about that Dragon Blood update? Pretty neat, huh?

Well we DO need something. Its hard to rely on whip and embers for a heal and Dragon Leap for an execute/damage shield. I'm ok without the execute but having a reliable heal will change how I'm forced to play. If it works it will be great.

I'm super excited about this. It was just the other day I commented how my Mag DK can't run Destro because he relies on Healing Ward to have consistent heals. It's a shame that my Mag DK will probably vet out before the patch hits, but there's always time to roll another one!

DCeiver0

ColoursYouHave wrote: »

I'm super excited about this. It was just the other day I commented how my Mag DK can't run Destro because he relies on Healing Ward to have consistent heals. It's a shame that my Mag DK will probably vet out before the patch hits, but there's always time to roll another one!

So many magdks running around with resto staffs. I guess that's about to change!

Just_call_me_Cola

Hooray for mag dks. Now about this bow tree. Volley feels pretty powerful/end gamey don't we agree

Stridig

ColoursYouHave wrote: »

Vyle_Byte wrote: »

Lumsdenml wrote: »

Fun defence at fare tonight! Swiss cheese, multiple breaches and manning multiple fire trebs to keep out yellows in wedding dresses!

Oh yes, fare... lol Valen and I tried so hard to get to there before it flipped, we were a tad too late and as soon as we came inside it flipped and the guards spawned and with that and you guys, we got smoked!

Then the group that went to attack it asked for help so we went... I couldn't believe after all the wipes that AD has seen EP and DC go through trying to front door a defended keep... there they were hitting the damn front door. Tried to help them, tried to tell them, wouldn't listen. We did what we could and I eventually left them to their idiocy. Something I don't think I have ever done. Told them in zone after I left how arrogant it was to think they could just waltz in the front door, undefended, sure whatever but defended? LOL No, just no.

I'm fairly sure they were the reason I got a massive headache so I went to bed and left them to their shenanigans lmfao!

I've seen the late-night AD Zerg repeatedly wipe trying to front door a well-defended Ash or Sej so many times that it doesn't even shock me anymore.

Stridig wrote: »

anamenobodyelsehas wrote: »

Stridig wrote: »

Yikes

So...how's about that Dragon Blood update? Pretty neat, huh?

Well we DO need something. Its hard to rely on whip and embers for a heal and Dragon Leap for an execute/damage shield. I'm ok without the execute but having a reliable heal will change how I'm forced to play. If it works it will be great.

I'm super excited about this. It was just the other day I commented how my Mag DK can't run Destro because he relies on Healing Ward to have consistent heals. It's a shame that my Mag DK will probably vet out before the patch hits, but there's always time to roll another one!

I ONLY run with destro. I use Destro + S&B. Perhaps there is a better way but I have been very successful with this set up.

DeadlyRecluse

Just_call_me_Cola wrote: »

Hooray for mag dks. Now about this bow tree. Volley feels pretty powerful/end gamey don't we agree

I really want this to be your personal crusade until the servers go down in the cybermonkey uprising of 2037.

We'll in in the trenches firing blindly at cybernetically enhanced orangutans, and Cola will be leaning against wall babbling on and on about how Snipe *really* should be the 4th skill unlocked in the bow line.

Stridig

Lately PUGz TS has resembled GoNB's TS a great deal. While running seige or just fighting in general, we have had everything from French and Spanish lessons to discussions on builds and clothing collectibles. Everything BUT the task at hand.

DeadlyRecluse

Stridig wrote: »

Lately PUGz TS has resembled GoNB's TS a great deal. While running seige or just fighting in general, we have had everything from French and Spanish lessons to discussions on builds and clothing collectibles. Everything BUT the task at hand.

Have you made a child cry from yelling "battle comms!" at him yet?

Stridig

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

Stridig wrote: »

Lately PUGz TS has resembled GoNB's TS a great deal. While running seige or just fighting in general, we have had everything from French and Spanish lessons to discussions on builds and clothing collectibles. Everything BUT the task at hand.

Have you made a child cry from yelling "battle comms!" at him yet?

Not yet. Many people who play this game typically do not find themselves within arms reach of me. Otherwise there would have been many children not only yelled at but also beaten half to death.

DCeiver0

Stridig wrote: »

Lately PUGz TS has resembled GoNB's TS a great deal. While running seige or just fighting in general, we have had everything from French and Spanish lessons to discussions on builds and clothing collectibles. Everything BUT the task at hand.

Agreed with the exception of when Saber leads. Rest assured of he's leading a PUGz group on TS, the map is gonna start turning blue. He's all business when in BWB.

Stridig

DCeiver0 wrote: »

Stridig wrote: »

Lately PUGz TS has resembled GoNB's TS a great deal. While running seige or just fighting in general, we have had everything from French and Spanish lessons to discussions on builds and clothing collectibles. Everything BUT the task at hand.

Agreed with the exception of when Saber leads. Rest assured of he's leading a PUGz group on TS, the map is gonna start turning blue.

I also love how Rak puts in work on the map while typing out directions to the group the whole time. It's funny how he types WHILE fighting people. It cracks me up.

DCeiver0

Stridig wrote: »

DCeiver0 wrote: »

Stridig wrote: »

Lately PUGz TS has resembled GoNB's TS a great deal. While running seige or just fighting in general, we have had everything from French and Spanish lessons to discussions on builds and clothing collectibles. Everything BUT the task at hand.

Agreed with the exception of when Saber leads. Rest assured of he's leading a PUGz group on TS, the map is gonna start turning blue.

I also love how Rak puts in work on the map while typing out directions to the group the whole time. It's funny how he types WHILE fighting people. It cracks me up.

He's quite good at it, but you ever notice him run full speed into a tree or rock, or off a cliff because he's typing? Just goes to show you that's is dangerous to text and ride.

Lumsdenml

Hmmmm. Might have to bring my stamDK out of retirement and give him a run around azuras...

Adenoma

To be honest, a lot of folks are going to think magDK suddenly became OP and it hasn't. I'm just excited because I hate running healing ward on literally every single non-templar magicka build that I make. There's no diversity and I hate it.

Basically, there are two things that I take out of this patch as a magDK obsessed player:
1.) We don't need to do resto anymore
2.) Thanks for +5% damage on whip

That's not a huge and helpful update. They nerfed wings (which I haven't run in ages so I'm not affected - they've been garbage for a while) and haven't addressed any of the sustain issues inherent to the class.

But hey, baby steps.

Adenoma

Ain't nothing like magNB getting 28m impales. Time to execute snipe folks.

Just_call_me_Cola

Quick update bow tree before cyber monkeys rise.

@DeadlyRecluse

Stridig

DCeiver0 wrote: »

Stridig wrote: »

DCeiver0 wrote: »

Stridig wrote: »

Lately PUGz TS has resembled GoNB's TS a great deal. While running seige or just fighting in general, we have had everything from French and Spanish lessons to discussions on builds and clothing collectibles. Everything BUT the task at hand.

Agreed with the exception of when Saber leads. Rest assured of he's leading a PUGz group on TS, the map is gonna start turning blue.

I also love how Rak puts in work on the map while typing out directions to the group the whole time. It's funny how he types WHILE fighting people. It cracks me up.

He's quite good at it, but you ever notice him run full speed into a tree or rock, or off a cliff because he's typing? Just goes to show you that's is dangerous to text and ride.

I can't even count the times I have been killed "staying on crown".

DCeiver0

Stridig wrote: »

DCeiver0 wrote: »

Stridig wrote: »

DCeiver0 wrote: »

Stridig wrote: »

Lately PUGz TS has resembled GoNB's TS a great deal. While running seige or just fighting in general, we have had everything from French and Spanish lessons to discussions on builds and clothing collectibles. Everything BUT the task at hand.

Agreed with the exception of when Saber leads. Rest assured of he's leading a PUGz group on TS, the map is gonna start turning blue.

I also love how Rak puts in work on the map while typing out directions to the group the whole time. It's funny how he types WHILE fighting people. It cracks me up.

He's quite good at it, but you ever notice him run full speed into a tree or rock, or off a cliff because he's typing? Just goes to show you that's is dangerous to text and ride.

I can't even count the times I have been killed "staying on crown".

Raknosh

Adenoma wrote: »

They nerfed wings (which I haven't run in ages so I'm not affected - they've been garbage for a while) and haven't addressed any of the sustain issues inherent to the class.

Wings are garbage? Ever tried to kill a MagDK with a MagNB, MagSorc or even Magplar? Good luck loll.
Plus vs zerg, it`s so nice to stand in front and be the bullet sponge while they're getting flanked.

DCeiver0 wrote: »

Stridig wrote: »

DCeiver0 wrote: »

Stridig wrote: »

DCeiver0 wrote: »

Stridig wrote: »

Lately PUGz TS has resembled GoNB's TS a great deal. While running seige or just fighting in general, we have had everything from French and Spanish lessons to discussions on builds and clothing collectibles. Everything BUT the task at hand.

Agreed with the exception of when Saber leads. Rest assured of he's leading a PUGz group on TS, the map is gonna start turning blue.

I also love how Rak puts in work on the map while typing out directions to the group the whole time. It's funny how he types WHILE fighting people. It cracks me up.

He's quite good at it, but you ever notice him run full speed into a tree or rock, or off a cliff because he's typing? Just goes to show you that's is dangerous to text and ride.

I can't even count the times I have been killed "staying on crown".

xD

Adenoma

@Raknosh , some of those are more difficult matchups.

No problem killing a magDK with magplar - they still get the heal debuff from darkflare (if you use it) and otherwise nothing that really matters can be reflected.

MagNB can be difficult to take down someone who keeps up wings, but wings are so damn expensive to keep up for 4 projectiles worth. When I play destro/resto magNB I just pelt them with light attacks (which procs grim focus), fear them, shoot the grim focus/merciless resolve, then soul harvest, then impale. Most folks won't live through that assuming that they started out at lower-than-full health.

MagSorc illustrates exactly why wings are garbage now. They made it so crushing shock isn't reflectable (though it sucked when it was because that and the light/medium attack totally used up one wings for close to 2k magicka less) and velocious curse wasn't blockable and neither is the new version. If someone is hardcasting frags at me I'm not too worried about them - wings are useless against good sorcs because they're too expensive to use besides just reactively and good sorcs are going to cast only crystal frag procs which they're gonna do a decent job of hiding.

Plus, snipe goes through wings a lot @Just_call_me_Cola .

DCeiver0

Adenoma wrote: »

@Raknosh , some of those are more difficult matchups.

No problem killing a magDK with magplar - they still get the heal debuff from darkflare (if you use it) and otherwise nothing that really matters can be reflected.

MagNB can be difficult to take down someone who keeps up wings, but wings are so damn expensive to keep up for 4 projectiles worth. When I play destro/resto magNB I just pelt them with light attacks (which procs grim focus), fear them, shoot the grim focus/merciless resolve, then soul harvest, then impale. Most folks won't live through that assuming that they started out at lower-than-full health.

MagSorc illustrates exactly why wings are garbage now. They made it so crushing shock isn't reflectable (though it sucked when it was because that and the light/medium attack totally used up one wings for close to 2k magicka less) and velocious curse wasn't blockable and neither is the new version. If someone is hardcasting frags at me I'm not too worried about them - wings are useless against good sorcs because they're too expensive to use besides just reactively and good sorcs are going to cast only crystal frag procs which they're gonna do a decent job of hiding.

Plus, snipe goes through wings a lot @Just_call_me_Cola .

I actually disagree with the magsorc to a degree. I play magsorc right now and magdks are the hardest for me to kill solely because I have to make sure I don't kill myself on their wings. Maybe that's due to my build, but I can say half my damage dealing spells are projectile, so when going toe to toe with a magdk, my options are very limited until I get some of the skills that are higher in the sorc trees. That's actually one of the big reasons I use lightning staff instead of fire, lightning staff heavy attacks aren't projectiles so I can rotate curse, endless fury, heavy attacks and encase. But having such limited skills to use and no reliable stun, makes magdks really difficult for me to fight until I unlock bolt escape and dark deal because I usually can't outpace their heals. without stunning them before they pop wings. I actually have dueled JTDragon a few times with his dks, and only beat him when I had unlocked bolt escape. Maybe I ought to practice a bit more against magdks, but wings definitely forces me to change a lot about my combat strategy.

Just_call_me_Cola

^ curse endless fury encase and heavy restos don't get reflected. Spam those run them out of stam negate and pray you burst then down before they get out. It's more difficult but it is a L2p issue for sure

Vyle_Byte

DCeiver0 wrote: »

He's quite good at it, but you ever notice him run full speed into a tree or rock, or off a cliff because he's typing? Just goes to show you that's is dangerous to text and ride.

I definitely think this is true for most who lead and type to their groups. Byte runs no ts or voice whatsoever, ever, never have. We are a chat text base only (partly bc there was a very real need for it when we started, all groups at the time were ts only) not the point lol anyhow poor Valen is always running into things and off of things and getting himself in precarious um.. situations trying to talk to the group. Its fantastic.