Sorcerer execute ?!

Apherius

Hi ! just a simple question . Sorcerer friend ( magicka DD ) WHO have a good DPS . DID you use the finisher ? or not ?
did you think he is useless ? did you lost dps with ? ( PVE question ! be careful , bb PVP boy )

Apherius

I think he is useless , i lost dps with

Sorry for the bad trad :P for the first points it's " i don't have spot for him ^^" " and for my comment:

I'm a magicka sorcerer Dps with 29K + dps in raid ( without overload of course , overload is nobrain ultimate) and i lost dps with

-29K + without finish
-28K - with finish

darthsithis

other

I use execute for resource regen (hence endless fury).

One cool trick is to cast execute before they are in execute range, since if you read the description carefully, it says they explode for xxxxxx damage if they fall below whatever health within a few seconds. Do I execute, weave, and they appear to die at 50% depending on their stats! Try it my man.

But sorc execute is the worst, it's true.

For example, I often just end up using a proved frag that is usually available, rather than switch bars, execute, switch back. Only do this when low on magick or wanna spam damage when in overload (and conserve overload obviously)

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Apherius

I think he is useless , i lost dps with

darthsithis wrote: »

I use execute for resource regen (hence endless fury).

One cool trick is to cast execute before they are in execute range, since if you read the description carefully, it says they explode for xxxxxx damage if they fall below whatever health within a few seconds. Do I execute, weave, and they appear to die at 50% depending on their stats! Try it my man.

But sorc execute is the worst, it's true.

For example, I often just end up using a proved frag that is usually available, rather than switch bars, execute, switch back. Only do this when low on magick or wanna spam damage when in overload (and conserve overload obviously)

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I will try this

Don't speak me about overload , i Hate this , some sorcere think they are strong because they did 50K on light attck with overload ...

WuffyCerulei

this execute is very very good !

When my sorc was magicka, I would use Mage's Wrath to execute dungeon bosses under 20% health. It almost has the same oomf as Radiant Destruction or Impale/Killer Blade, but it costs a bit less and is instant. Combine that with Crystal Fragments procced by Mage's Wrath, and you have some good single target dps.

darthsithis

other

what wolf ninja said.

and dude, overload only adds to the dps. I can do more dps by using boundless storm, wall of elements, proxy, weaving pulse, dropping liquid lightning, and shooting the procced frag. Overload is for the third bar, and refilling magicka man.

gotta utilize the whole build

of course noobs spam it, but pros use it intelligently- and its nothing to laugh at. I'll link a video if you wanna see my whole rotation!

Izaki

Just don't have spot for him

You can't lose DPS with an execute. Its just not possible. As long as you keep your DoTs and your buffs up your DPS will spike in the execute range. Its an execute its meant for dealing high damage to low health targets. I don't know how you managed to lose DPS. I'm usually at 30k (Bloodspawn test with all raid buffs) with my execute. I don't know what it would be like without because I never go without it. Mages Wrath hits as hard as Overload (meaning stronger than a Shooting Star). So below 20% you do much more DPS if you have an execute. Overall thats 1/5 of a fight so the DPS increase isn't huge, but its definetly higher. Then again everything depends on your rotation and your bar set ups (Double Destro or Destro/Dual Wield)

The only issue I have is the scaling. 20% is a bit low. 25% would make more sense even though its not a huge difference.

And also: Overload is huge burst DPS and is a very good ultimate. Ask @YoloWizard. He's the sorc master of the game.


EDIT: Oh crap I messed up, I chose the wrong option. I didn't pay attention, I do have a place for Mages Wrath on my bar and while I don't think that its amazing, I think its a DPS increase to have an execute. So "other" is my choice from the poll.

lolo_01b16_ESO

this execute is very very good !

From my experience it's worth using it. Just make sure to keep refreshing your dots during execute phase aswell, especially liquid lightning.
Also you can't just take the dps of one fight to tell if something is better or not. Especially in raids there are a lot of things that influence your dps, like buff uptime, boss positioning and total fight duration.

darthsithis

other

l cancel it, and proc it with kena by using two overload attacks. see, overload can be used in a synergistic way. overload around 25%, proc kena, start executing with 500 extra spell power. That is not a dps loss. boundless storm and liquid lightning on top of that? yeah executes are good at executing.

20% is the lowest of all executes, but like i said, you can apply it before 20%. Most people dont do this. what you should do when target is ~30% is go into overload, cast liquid lightning, cast mages wrath ONCE (or other morph...not the point), proc kena with two overloads- this triggers the first explosion from when they were above 20%, and it is procced with kena, as will be your following executes.

Senaxu

other

wolfninja101b14_ESO wrote: »

When my sorc was magicka, I would use Mage's Wrath to execute dungeon bosses under 20% health. It almost has the same oomf as Radiant Destruction or Impale/Killer Blade, but it costs a bit less and is instant. Combine that with Crystal Fragments procced by Mage's Wrath, and you have some good single target dps.

Dont know what you are smoking. Joke aside, but the sorcerer execute is on the last spot by far, if you compare templer, nb and sorc with a staff in the executebar. the sorc execute is ofc a DPS win compared the the usual rotation, you have to keep your DOTs up ofc. In a singletargetfight like mantikora you should be able to do ~40k+ as a sorc for now.

As a sorc its a mess to have any spots for skills cause of this amazing skill bound aegis but i advise to take the execute in unless you have to slot a shield cause of high DPS income like in vMol HM.

Anyway the ranking for execute atm:
1. Templer // effective from about 32% HP crazy DPS in the last 10%. // 100%
2. Nightblade // effective from about 25% HP do insane hits combined with soulharvester between. // 70%
3. Sorcerer // effective from about 20% HP- weak initial hit/good Explosion, increases on 15%HP cause of implosion. //50%