Update 11 missing hairstyles (More in PTS)

MornaBaine

Sarousse wrote: »

The new hairstyles on PTS are just awful. It feels like they were made too fast just to earn cash.

It lacks working, it's sloppy, and there is like 0 new haircut with long hair for women (despite feedback on this since day one on PTS).

Trust me, it's better if they delay that and put new hairstyles later, so at least we can have more choice and well done work.

I would agree if I had any faith at all that they were listening to our feedback and actually working to produce the hairstyles we've been asking for instead of just throwing us the mostly bad ones that were on PTS.

MornaBaine

leothedino wrote: »

Valorin wrote: »

Second: It was always perfectly clear that stuff on the PTS will not be completely available when a content patch goes live. The Testserver is not a preview of all the content we get next patch, just a testing environment with all stuff that needs testing available.

We accept this, however the reason the community is so disgusted is that they advertised the new styles and adornments to be coming out with this patch. Clearly on their ESO:Live stream and here at their official news thread http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2016/07/26/update-11-guide-eso-style-parlor

This annoyance and backlash from the people paying for their product, in my honest opinion, is rightfully felt. False advertising.

This right here! ^^ From the linked article:


"Coming in Update 11, you'll be able to completely change your character in the new ESO Style Parlor. Read on to learn more about each of the available options."

"Premium Hairstyles, Adornments, & Markings

If you're looking for a little something special for your favorite characters, navigate to the “Style Parlor" category within the Crown Store and peruse the new offerings in the Adornments, Hair Styles, and Markings sections (please note that some selections are gender and/or race restricted).

You can change your character's hair style, adornments, and markings as often as you like using any items purchased, which can be accessed from your Collections menu under the “Appearance" category. These can all be used alongside many of your existing collectibles as well!

These items will vary in pricing, starting from 200 crowns, and we'll continue to add more in the future."

We were told very clearly we'd be getting these things. Then, we didn't.

Revenant_Spartan

And no changing beards? Really? Wtf is all I can say... So I need to buy an appearance change to change my beard but you put in eyelashes for girls?

NovaShadow

MornaBaine wrote: »

leothedino wrote: »

Valorin wrote: »

Second: It was always perfectly clear that stuff on the PTS will not be completely available when a content patch goes live. The Testserver is not a preview of all the content we get next patch, just a testing environment with all stuff that needs testing available.

We accept this, however the reason the community is so disgusted is that they advertised the new styles and adornments to be coming out with this patch. Clearly on their ESO:Live stream and here at their official news thread http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2016/07/26/update-11-guide-eso-style-parlor

This annoyance and backlash from the people paying for their product, in my honest opinion, is rightfully felt. False advertising.

This right here! ^^ From the linked article:


"Coming in Update 11, you'll be able to completely change your character in the new ESO Style Parlor. Read on to learn more about each of the available options."

"Premium Hairstyles, Adornments, & Markings

If you're looking for a little something special for your favorite characters, navigate to the “Style Parlor" category within the Crown Store and peruse the new offerings in the Adornments, Hair Styles, and Markings sections (please note that some selections are gender and/or race restricted).

You can change your character's hair style, adornments, and markings as often as you like using any items purchased, which can be accessed from your Collections menu under the “Appearance" category. These can all be used alongside many of your existing collectibles as well!

These items will vary in pricing, starting from 200 crowns, and we'll continue to add more in the future."

We were told very clearly we'd be getting these things. Then, we didn't.

They did include these: standard character creator hairstyles we've been using for 2 years, two creepy adornments and three markings.

Technically they did release what they said. No where does it say NEW hairstyles. It's misleading for a reason. They want your money. I've spent all day warning people the hairstyles pack is NOT new hairstyles.

Revenant_Spartan wrote: »

And no changing beards? Really? Wtf is all I can say... So I need to buy an appearance change to change my beard but you put in eyelashes for girls?

There are no eyelashes on live.

Revenant_Spartan

NovaShadow wrote: »

There are no eyelashes on live.

Well could you swap around for standard beards on PTS?

NovaShadow

Revenant_Spartan wrote: »

NovaShadow wrote: »

There are no eyelashes on live.

Well could you swap around for standard beards on PTS?

I have no male characters so I wouldn't know.

But I was really wanting the glitter eyelashes for my girl so I was bummed to see there are none.

HaldaAinur

False/misleading advertising sucks.

Out of curiosity, what is actually available?

leothedino

HaldaAinur wrote: »

False/misleading advertising sucks.

Out of curiosity, what is actually available?

Four Spiked Wattle for Argonians, Talon Veil (Seaweed over your face) for the rest. The bundle of all the original hairstyles in one. Three markings and a personality pack.

ADarklore

MornaBaine wrote: »

leothedino wrote: »

Valorin wrote: »

Second: It was always perfectly clear that stuff on the PTS will not be completely available when a content patch goes live. The Testserver is not a preview of all the content we get next patch, just a testing environment with all stuff that needs testing available.

We accept this, however the reason the community is so disgusted is that they advertised the new styles and adornments to be coming out with this patch. Clearly on their ESO:Live stream and here at their official news thread http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2016/07/26/update-11-guide-eso-style-parlor

This annoyance and backlash from the people paying for their product, in my honest opinion, is rightfully felt. False advertising.

This right here! ^^ From the linked article:


"Coming in Update 11, you'll be able to completely change your character in the new ESO Style Parlor. Read on to learn more about each of the available options."

"Premium Hairstyles, Adornments, & Markings

If you're looking for a little something special for your favorite characters, navigate to the “Style Parlor" category within the Crown Store and peruse the new offerings in the Adornments, Hair Styles, and Markings sections (please note that some selections are gender and/or race restricted).

You can change your character's hair style, adornments, and markings as often as you like using any items purchased, which can be accessed from your Collections menu under the “Appearance" category. These can all be used alongside many of your existing collectibles as well!

These items will vary in pricing, starting from 200 crowns, and we'll continue to add more in the future."

We were told very clearly we'd be getting these things. Then, we didn't.

Clearly you were also attempting to mislead with this because you forgot to include the following which was also in the official news thread:

" Packs & Bundles

When Update 11 is released, we'll have some special packs and bundles that you may want to consider. If you like changing up your look from time to time, we'll be offering a pack that includes all the existing hair styles (90+ in all!). This will allow you to freely change your hair style to anything available on the character creation screen as often as you like, though normal race and/or gender restrictions do apply."

No where in their listing does it say, 'new styles will be coming when Update 11 is released', if this is how people interpreted it, then it is THEIR mistake, not ZOS. Oh but that's right, we live in an age where there is no 'personal responsibility' anymore. Perhaps ZOS could have worded it differently by saying "all original hair styles"... but if people put some thought into it they should have realized that even on PTS they had the new hair styles as singular items and would not be part of the 'pack'.

Also, one would have thought after the 'assistant' not being fully functional fiasco, that everyone would realize ZOS isn't good about 'spelling every little detail out'.

maboleth

Okay people, I'm the one who bought old styles for 1k, thinking it was new. I don't regret my purchase as it's very fun to change the hairstyles on the go.
Additional ones will be available in 6 days. So 6 days from now you'll have your beards and fancy haircuts. I understand the disappointment, but really it's not the end of the world.

manavortex

Additional ones will be available in 6 days.

How do you know?

malchior

I thought wow 92 hairstyles for 1k crowns, then I read the 'STANDARD' and had a think. Standard means already existing, so I passed. Pays to read carefully as companies usually put in vague text to 'trick' customers, whether intentional or not, it happens.

Lumenn

Basic business guys, it's all about the hype.It's simple marketing 101 and every business does it. You just word your advertisement in a certain way. People are impatient. Some are trusting. Others naturally assume things(back to impatient. Read a bit and assume the rest) if even 99 out of 100 carefully read the full details(and I'm being very generous) that one out of 100 makes you profit on something you were advertising anyway. Zos DID clearly mention basic hairstyles in the package. I admit having them on pts at the same time was a stroke of genius (I'm sure many leaped to a conclusion with that bit) but they can say they promised you exactly what you purchased. It's now buyers remorse, not false advertising. (hence my Dr. Evil laughing in the boardroom comment earlier. ) and harsh as it sounds, unlike the Breton costumes, completely on the customer.

ADarklore

malchior wrote: »

I thought wow 92 hairstyles for 1k crowns, then I read the 'STANDARD' and had a think. Standard means already existing, so I passed. Pays to read carefully as companies usually put in vague text to 'trick' customers, whether intentional or not, it happens.

^This one gets it!! It pays to READ and it also pays to put a little 'logical thinking' into that reading as well. Or, if you don't want to read ZOS' descriptions, then wait for the forum posts that come out after an update to read what other people are experiencing. This happened with the 'assistants' and is now happening with 'hairstyles'. But really people, the new hair styles were completely separate from the pack on PTS, what went through your mind to think they would be included with the 'pack' on Live?!?

SantaOrc

i want my 1k crowns back i wasted on the hair pack. We were promissed new ones.

Yes, i saw the description. Since i didn't see any "new hairstyles" to buy, i guessed the new ones are included in the "standard" character creation now.

NovaShadow

maboleth wrote: »

Okay people, I'm the one who bought old styles for 1k, thinking it was new. I don't regret my purchase as it's very fun to change the hairstyles on the go.
Additional ones will be available in 6 days. So 6 days from now you'll have your beards and fancy haircuts. I understand the disappointment, but really it's not the end of the world.

Source please...

ADarklore

SantaOrc wrote: »

i want my 1k crowns back i wasted on the hair pack. We were promissed new ones.

Yes, i saw the description. Since i didn't see any "new hairstyles" to buy, i guessed the new ones are included in the "standard" character creation now.

And there is how it is YOUR fault... and I quote... "i guessed"

leothedino

manavortex wrote: »

Additional ones will be available in 6 days.

How do you know?

I, too, would like to know your sources.

SantaOrc

ADarklore wrote: »

SantaOrc wrote: »

i want my 1k crowns back i wasted on the hair pack. We were promissed new ones.

Yes, i saw the description. Since i didn't see any "new hairstyles" to buy, i guessed the new ones are included in the "standard" character creation now.

And there is how it is YOUR fault... and I quote... "i guessed"

I guessed that zos doesn't try to fool me. Yea, my bad. I hope i didn't agree to any leasing contract.

Whatever. We were promissed new hairstyles and i bought every single hairstyle which were available without getting any new ones. That's just not cool.

SantieClaws

Hmm @SantaOrc

Khajiit she is curious.

What do the orcs celebrate at Fishmas?

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

Hellbender27

Moriarti wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

We often put more items than are releasing with a major update launch on the PTS so we can get some testing and feedback on them. That was the case with some of the Style Parlor offerings, including some of the hair styles. They'll be coming to the Style Parlor in a future patch.

I erect the spine of dissapointment! It's not only about PTS dear Zenimax, you show quite a lot new hairstyles in your "The Elder Scrolls Online: Style Paylor" begining with "coming in update 11" and ending with date "1.8.2016 PC/Mac". In such case your video advertise is nothing less than missleading.

Good Ole! Bait .. and Switch ......Gotem Coach! 10 points team ZOS

Abeille

Just one thing that might make the pack with the old hairstyles interesting for some people: Some hair styles that were not available to all races can be worn now by them. For example, the Redguard dreadlocks can be worn by, say, an Altmer.

maboleth

manavortex wrote: »

Additional ones will be available in 6 days.

How do you know?

NovaShadow wrote: »

maboleth wrote: »

Okay people, I'm the one who bought old styles for 1k, thinking it was new. I don't regret my purchase as it's very fun to change the hairstyles on the go.
Additional ones will be available in 6 days. So 6 days from now you'll have your beards and fancy haircuts. I understand the disappointment, but really it's not the end of the world.

Source please...

Actually it's on the first page of this topic. Jessica wrote That was the case with some of the Style Parlor offerings, including some of the hair styles. They'll be coming to the Style Parlor in a future patch. . Future patch comes on Monday, so it's 6 days from now.

manavortex

in a future patch

Basically that includes every patch that has not yet been deployed to the ESO servers between now and the explosion of the sun.

Abeille

maboleth wrote: »

manavortex wrote: »

Additional ones will be available in 6 days.

How do you know?

NovaShadow wrote: »

maboleth wrote: »

Okay people, I'm the one who bought old styles for 1k, thinking it was new. I don't regret my purchase as it's very fun to change the hairstyles on the go.
Additional ones will be available in 6 days. So 6 days from now you'll have your beards and fancy haircuts. I understand the disappointment, but really it's not the end of the world.

Source please...

Actually it's on the first page of this topic. Jessica wrote That was the case with some of the Style Parlor offerings, including some of the hair styles. They'll be coming to the Style Parlor in a future patch. . Future patch comes on Monday, so it's 6 days from now.

"A future patch" doesn't mean "the next patch".
Let's wait and see. This month's Crown Store Showcase might have some hair styles.

SantaOrc

SantieClaws wrote: »

Hmm @SantaOrc

Khajiit she is curious.

What do the orcs celebrate at Fishmas?

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

Santa Orc celebrates Axe-Mas every day of the year. Presents for everyone; usually an axe. To the face. Hitting hard.

maboleth

manavortex wrote: »

in a future patch

Basically that includes every patch that has not yet been deployed to the ESO servers between now and the explosion of the sun.

Haha, that was the good one. But seriously, yes, just wait and see. I'm like 99.9% certain it's the NEXT patch. Jessica was all over the place with everything yesterday so you can't blame her for not always choosing the right words.

SantieClaws

In the experience of this one the decent store items come just after the console release of any DLC.

This way they get them to the biggest possible playerbase at the time the content is most relevant to all platforms.

For example they probably think that offering hair in the store now when the console players cannot yet use it may not be the best deployment of the hair.

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

Lysette

malchior wrote: »

I thought wow 92 hairstyles for 1k crowns, then I read the 'STANDARD' and had a think. Standard means already existing, so I passed. Pays to read carefully as companies usually put in vague text to 'trick' customers, whether intentional or not, it happens.

To me that hairpack is not bad, I like the opportunity to be able to change my hairstyle to one of those I really like from the standard set (male, female and especially beast race options). So to me these are not wasted 1000 crowns, I appreciate that we got this standard set as a collection. I was especially not happy with the choice I made for my Argonian and now I can change it to whatever of the standard styles I like for him - this makes a quite happy Argonian now and I can use as well those costumes on him, which I avoided, because they had no hood or helmet and the original hairstyle choice would be visible.

I just wish we would get as well such a standard option pack at the same price for adornments and body markings - please ZOS make it happen - @ZOS_GinaBruno - maybe you guys had this planned already, at least I hope so.

Edit: Ah, and I forgot head markings - so this would be another 3000 crowns for you for these 3 standard packs from me, ZOS. And while you are at it, consider a hair color set as well - this would be awesome, I would happily pay 1000 for that pack as well, if I can change hair color from collections anytime I wish with no extra costs other than that hair color pack. So we are at 4000 crowns in total now. And to make @Abeille happy, give all colors to everyone, she wants so badly a black hair color for her Altmer character. I would like to see her happy.

Lysette

SantieClaws wrote: »

In the experience of this one the decent store items come just after the console release of any DLC.

This way they get them to the biggest possible playerbase at the time the content is most relevant to all platforms.

For example they probably think that offering hair in the store now when the console players cannot yet use it may not be the best deployment of the hair.

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

Valid point.