Is VMA final chest loot broken?

Nifty2g

All I'm getting is damn rings... round 7 and 8 should be chance to drop rings/necks but final chest should always be a weapon. It's almost impossible to get your desired trait.

Saturn

I agree. Also it's said that you have a 50% chance for a weapon on the last chest, but it seems way lower. Most people I know have about 30% droprate across 30-40 runs. I myself have about 40%, but still it's way too inconsistent. Further, with the increased number of useless traits, the odds of getting a useful weapon are pretty low.

We're not too far away from the Orsinium expansion and Maelstrom Arena being a year old, and some serious changes to droprate should be installed to make the weapons less of a grind. Or some alternative system to make players able to choose their drop.

Vaoh

Veteran Maelstrom Arena final chest loot:

• 50% chance at jewelry
(Glorious Defender, Permafrost, Para Bellum, Hunt Leader, Succession, Winterborn)

• 50% chance at The Maelstrom's weapons
(Sword, Mace, Axe, Dagger, Greatsword, Battelaxe, Maul, Bow, Shield, Inferno Staff, Ice Staff, Lightning Staff, Restoration Staff)

But you already knew this......

I had the same issue until recently, when I gave up running vMA for awhile. So much jewelry. I've looted everything I need, but never has a single Dagger or Axe dropped for me. Giving that place a break, with a small chance at one run a week for easy weekly rewards. Maelstrom Arena gives me nightmares now....

danisonfire1994

VMA isn't worth your time grinding. Just wait till they Nerf it or change the reward system. Cause there's just endless complains about it in the Forums. ZOS will change something one day.

ButtersEP

I've pulled 1 sword and board from the final chest since DB every thing else is jewerly. I run it twice a week for leaderboards.

DannyLV702

I've given up on VMA. I mean, I have pretty much what I need, but would like other things I just can't seem to get. Not worth the runs.

Nifty2g

danisonfire1994 wrote: »

VMA isn't worth your time grinding. Just wait till they Nerf it or change the reward system. Cause there's just endless complains about it in the Forums. ZOS will change something one day.

I have no issue farming it but isn't it pointless to have a final chest not drop a weapon

I think all the added silly traits on min maxed gear was hell but the amount of rings is absurd

I'm on my 7th clear with 7 rings so far.

Please fix this lol

SanTii.92

Yes. There is no way it's 50 / 50 chance.

Drayzon

i gotta agree with this iv done about half a dozen runs over the week and only got rings

DRXHarbinger

Nifty2g wrote: »

All I'm getting is damn rings... round 7 and 8 should be chance to drop rings/necks but final chest should always be a weapon. It's almost impossible to get your desired trait.

Where have you been for the last few months...it's been a pig for ages. Supposed 50% chance at a weapon and then it's 1 in 99 chance of it being what you want....stupid situation.

Shadesofkin

I've done it nearly each week so far since the "update" and I've gotten 2 Resto Staves, 1 Sword and Board, 4x Jewelry and then an Infused Bow.

code65536

@ZOS_Finn said that DB was supposed to make the final chest 50/50 jewelry/weapons. My personal experience--and that of almost everyone else who I've spoken with--is that it's far lower than 50%, like 10-20%. One person having a bad drop rate, I can chalk up to bad luck. But the pattern is far too persistent for that at this point.

There have been a lot of threads about this, asking if the drop rate is bugged, yet there has been no response from ZOS in any of these threads.

Smolt

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

All I'm getting is damn rings... round 7 and 8 should be chance to drop rings/necks but final chest should always be a weapon. It's almost impossible to get your desired trait.

Where have you been for the last few months...it's been a pig for ages. Supposed 50% chance at a weapon and then it's 1 in 99 chance of it being what you want....stupid situation.

Not true. By my math it is a 1 in 96 chance of it being the weapon you want. Although I've gotten about 20 resto staves and at least a dozen bows. So glad they introduced 5 new (near) worthless traits to the loot table!

Still waiting on that sharpened fire staff...

Molag_Crow

It's definitely not 50% for a weapon, more like 20%...

DRXHarbinger

Smolt wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

All I'm getting is damn rings... round 7 and 8 should be chance to drop rings/necks but final chest should always be a weapon. It's almost impossible to get your desired trait.

Where have you been for the last few months...it's been a pig for ages. Supposed 50% chance at a weapon and then it's 1 in 99 chance of it being what you want....stupid situation.

Not true. By my math it is a 1 in 96 chance of it being the weapon you want. Although I've gotten about 20 resto staves and at least a dozen bows. So glad they introduced 5 new (near) worthless traits to the loot table!

Still waiting on that sharpened fire staff...

11 weapons and 9 traits.

potirondb16_ESO

Also, I don't know if you notice but the drop from leaderboard is also wierd, I run this with 3 characther usually and got 3 leaderboard reward two weeks in a row but !

One week I receive 2 resto-staf (one charged and one defending), and one Bow charged (Charged being the optimal buttom-traits you can get on a maestrom weapon)

The other week I receive 2 shield with infused weapon, and a Maul also infuse....

So I'm wondering what is wrong with the system ! Two weeks in a row I receive two time the same weapon, and two week in a row I got the same crappy traits.

Also during those 6 attemps (actually did 7). I receive only 2 maestrom weapon, both being shield !


SO PLEASE ZENIMAX LOOK WHAT OTHER MMO DO AND GET A HOLD OF YOUR SYSTEM !!

There's a bunch of system that exist:

Tradeshop as you did with Tel Var,
Quest Reward, with an option system
Improve quality of itemization (as it once was, even if I did receive WAY too many offensive weapon as defending and way too many shield that were not)
Improve acces to the item (such as what you did with ICP/WGT and the chest system (NO WAY THOSE ARE DROPPING GEAR AND NOT ALWAYS HAVE A MAESTROM IN IT)

AND SOMETIME USE MANY OF THOSE OPTION !

Scathing mage-hunt is a witch-hunt if you'r looking for any good traits, on some pièces I have even start believing prosperous was better then other of the traits I've dropped... ETC.

The other question being what are you going to do with VDSA ! Now that it is revamp, can player trade it with each other ? will they have to gather to deal with the arena so many time that they will start to hate the game for it ? I mean VmA only always include one player against himself and the RNG system, but as we're going to get many player together the inneficency of the actual reward system will start to become a bigger toll on some of the player base.

Personnally I like some option better then other but the fact is that, the more you are going to hide behind rng, the harder it will get. RNG is good for Raid, and with a traiding option it makes it even more fair. RNG is also good for random pièces, but only having RNG... makes it a toll.

Option Have long been offert and probably been looked at, but the real answer remains, what are you gonna do !

Sasyk

I've done 5 runs in the last two weeks and have gotten a jewelry piece from the final box every time.

Morbash

Haven't bothered with vMA in at least a month. I feel so much better. Less stress, less headaches, less exploding blood vessels. Now, if only I can figure out why I bought Orsinium...