Shared Riding Skill please

Daemons_Bane

180 lessons, 20 hours pr lesson, if you time it perfectly.. 3600 hours.. Please let us share Riding Skills between characters.. Leveling up a new toon's riding is a nightmare

Hellbender27

Sadly never going to happen they sell horse training in the Crown store.

Daemons_Bane

It can happen anyway Characters share a lot of stuff already

imnotanother

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

It can happen anyway Characters share a lot of stuff already

It will never happen. Might as well buy those crowns.

Daemons_Bane

imnotanother wrote: »

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

It can happen anyway Characters share a lot of stuff already

It will never happen. Might as well buy those crowns.

Well, when you can find proof that it never will, I will stop hoping Just because we can make it faster, don't mean that it will never happen

willymchilybily

@hellbender27b14_ESO
is that still a valid argument with the implimentation of crafting bags? yet they sell crown store bag upgrades

I always felt horse riding too expensive. but likely priced as it was because of the cost of bag space upgrades in the crown store (which seemed fair considering the gold cost of those last few upgrades) So the cost of increasing capacity on mount x10 had to equal this, and therefore all the other horse upgrades should also be equal.

Now with the bag space sales probably taking a hit, but eso membership hopefully on the rise, and alt creation also having a bloom (armor and mats drought sent prices sky high soon after recent DLC/patch)

Personally i think zenimax is missing a trick, now would have been the perfect time to put a sale on mount speed/stam/cap upgrades. reducing the cost of these features in the crown store to drum up increased sales because every one had a lot of alts they wanted to get sorted/create/and not have slow horses on.

When demand is high lower prices can bring in more revenue, through further increasing turnover (eg look at the £1 stores). (and vice versa when demand falls you shouldn't lower your prices but actually raise them, yet few do)

Daemons_Bane

You could argue that if we got shared Riding Skill, maybe it would have a positive impact on the lessons in Crown Store.. I would totally buy them to max my character, if it would affect all of them.. Not gonna buy them for every single toon though

imnotanother

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

imnotanother wrote: »

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

It can happen anyway Characters share a lot of stuff already

It will never happen. Might as well buy those crowns.

Well, when you can find proof that it never will, I will stop hoping Just because we can make it faster, don't mean that it will never happen

No proof, just applied reason and logic.

You can fully train a horse with in game gold (I did) and never spend any real money. If all characters were to share these stats, then there would be no need for mount lessons.

But if you want all 8+ characters to be maxed, you either train for gold or buy the lessons.

ZOS has the chance to profit up to 8x on one account...why would they give it
Away for free? There will
Always be high demand for maxed mounts and there are always new alts being made.

I guarantee that riding lessons are the Crown store #1 seller.

Daemons_Bane

So no proof which means that it's only your theory that it will never happen Then we can keep hoping, keep making threads like these, with our wants and wishes

TheRegHD

MAKE IT POSSIBLE TO UPGRADE MOUNTS TO 60/60/60 WITHOUT HAVING TO WAIT FOR 180 DAYS.

I have three Lvl50 characters, but the mount training takes ages and is hindering me greatly in PvP. I simply can't get around quickly enough. Whenever there's a group of people; they'll simply completely outrun me and I miss all the action.

It's well annoying, and the Riding Lessons on the Crown Store are MASSIVELY overpriced.

1000 Crowns for a 10% increase? That's 1000 * 6 = 6000 Crowns to get 1 Skill to max. So, a fully upgraded mount would cost 6000 * 3 = 18000 Crowns = around €114.5
And that's for just 1 mount!! As I've said; I have 3 characters at the moment - That's 3 mounts! If I were to upgrade all 3 mounts through the Crown Store, it would cost me a whopping 114.5 * 3 = €343.5

Rediculous.

I would much rather spend 45.000 Gold immediately to get a fully upgraded mount - although that does seem a little cheap. So, I'd have to be more expensive gold-wise.

Otherwise, it would be nice if you can train your mount for 5% every day, instead of the petty 1%

I'm sick of clutching unto the Mount Training Timers.

It. Takes. Too. Long.

JD2013

So, you want to do everything on one character, and basically have it all transfer to an alt?

What would be the point of creating an alt if you get everything handed to you, besides running a different class?

Champion Points are shared from 50. If you want to run with horses, pay for it, cheapskate!

Daemons_Bane

So with your logic, we should share nothing I take it?

imnotanother

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

So no proof which means that it's only your theory that it will never happen Then we can keep hoping, keep making threads like these, with our wants and wishes

You have every right to keep hoping and wishing

But please refrain from wasting forum space by posting these "I want it MY WAY" threads. The rest of the community shouldn't have to sift through QQ threads just because you fail too see the bigger picture.

JD2013

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

So with your logic, we should share nothing I take it?

Nope. I like that CP's are account bound.

But not everything should be.

vamp_emily

I don't know what is worse training a new horse or collecting all those books and skyshards again.

ADarklore

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

So no proof which means that it's only your theory that it will never happen Then we can keep hoping, keep making threads like these, with our wants and wishes

True, but all it does is take up space and clutter the forums. On the surface it would not be in ZOS' financial interest to make them account bound... although, with appearance, name and race changes coming... people will not be deleting and recreating characters as much now so perhaps it could happen. I typically spend hundreds of dollars on Crown Store mount upgrades because I would create a character, play for 50 levels, then get bored and delete them and start a new character, upgrade the mounts, rinse, recycle and repeat. Now, I won't need to spend that money when I can simply change an existing character where the mount is already upgraded. So in the end, it may be in their best interest to continue Mount sales by making them account wide since they will now be losing sales from people no longer deleting and creating new characters just to get a new race or to change appearance, etc.

TheRegHD

JD2013 wrote: »

So, you want to do everything on one character, and basically have it all transfer to an alt?

What would be the point of creating an alt if you get everything handed to you, besides running a different class?

Champion Points are shared from 50. If you want to run with horses, pay for it, cheapskate!

''What would be the point of creating an alt if you get everything handed to you, besides running a different class?''
That is exactly why people make alts; to play a different class. That, and to be able to play in a different Faction. Besides, you don't get everything handed to you, since you've done it before. Upgrading your mount on an alt is simply tedious and nothing else.

Daemons_Bane

JD2013 wrote: »

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

So with your logic, we should share nothing I take it?

Nope. I like that CP's are account bound.

But not everything should be.

Then what's the difference? Start making CP for EACH character, and buy mounts for EACH character, cheapskate No share materials either while we are at it

ADarklore wrote: »

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

So no proof which means that it's only your theory that it will never happen Then we can keep hoping, keep making threads like these, with our wants and wishes

True, but all it does is take up space and clutter the forums. On the surface it would not be in ZOS' financial interest to make them account bound... although, with appearance, name and race changes coming... people will not be deleting and recreating characters as much now so perhaps it could happen. I typically spend hundreds of dollars on Crown Store mount upgrades because I would create a character, play for 50 levels, then get bored and delete them and start a new character, upgrade the mounts, rinse, recycle and repeat. Now, I won't need to spend that money when I can simply change an existing character where the mount is already upgraded. So in the end, it may be in their best interest to continue Mount sales by making them account wide since they will now be losing sales from people no longer deleting and creating new characters just to get a new race or to change appearance, etc.

Better that I make a 1001th whining thread about lag? and if that is your way of using crown store riding lessons, I am not sure you are a good example in any way.. I can not believe that more than a extremely low percentage of players do that

kongkim

no thx. at one point every thing will be shared and alle have all things and not need to level or do anything with your new character.

Runs

The proof that it never will is the fact that people still buy the speed boosts from the crown store. You may not buy them but I have seen plenty of PVPrs do so when they make new alts.

I'm not against the idea. I just don't see why on Nirn ZOS would do this.

Daemons_Bane

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JD2013

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

So with your logic, we should share nothing I take it?

Nope. I like that CP's are account bound.

But not everything should be.

Then what's the difference? Start making CP for EACH character, and buy mounts for EACH character, cheapskate No share materials either while we are at it

The difference is that riding skill is hardly a tedious or hard thing to do. Go to a trainer. click a couple of times. Done.

If CP's were not account bound, then they may as well have just kept VR levels to get each character to top level

Bashev

Too good to be done. In PvE you only need capacity, while in PvP you need speed and stamina. Though I can pve without capacity mount I cannot say the same for PvP as most of the people relate Cyro with horse riding simulator. Maybe if ZoS add to the battle spirit 60 speed and 60 stamina if you are not already at max riding lvl that will be awesome.

Daemons_Bane

Why would PvE not need speed and stamina we ride around a lot too

ADarklore

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

ADarklore wrote: »

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

So no proof which means that it's only your theory that it will never happen Then we can keep hoping, keep making threads like these, with our wants and wishes

True, but all it does is take up space and clutter the forums. On the surface it would not be in ZOS' financial interest to make them account bound... although, with appearance, name and race changes coming... people will not be deleting and recreating characters as much now so perhaps it could happen. I typically spend hundreds of dollars on Crown Store mount upgrades because I would create a character, play for 50 levels, then get bored and delete them and start a new character, upgrade the mounts, rinse, recycle and repeat. Now, I won't need to spend that money when I can simply change an existing character where the mount is already upgraded. So in the end, it may be in their best interest to continue Mount sales by making them account wide since they will now be losing sales from people no longer deleting and creating new characters just to get a new race or to change appearance, etc.

Better that I make a 1001th whining thread about lag? and if that is your way of using crown store riding lessons, I am not sure you are a good example in any way.. I can not believe that more than a extremely low percentage of players do that

That was my point... that thanks to appearance and race changes, I will no longer be spending that money on mount upgrades... which means that others, low percentage or not, will also not be spending that kind of money anymore. So it might be more financially beneficial for them to make them account wide... but... with new players coming in and wanting all the characters to have the fastest mounts, I could also see them keeping everything as is. Those new players will want all the upgrades but existing players will not because they already have them.

Daemons_Bane

JD2013 wrote: »

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

So with your logic, we should share nothing I take it?

Nope. I like that CP's are account bound.

But not everything should be.

Then what's the difference? Start making CP for EACH character, and buy mounts for EACH character, cheapskate No share materials either while we are at it

The difference is that riding skill is hardly a tedious or hard thing to do. Go to a trainer. click a couple of times. Done.

If CP's were not account bound, then they may as well have just kept VR levels to get each character to top level

CP come pretty easy too pal freely given each time we get some xp points.. To get a riding lesson, I actually need to find specific npc's in specific places..

ADarklore

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

Why would PvE not need speed and stamina we ride around a lot too

Stamina has no bearing on speed, regardless of what the 'tool tip' says. Stamina only helps keep you mounted if you're attacked, but if you notice, when your mount stamina reaches zero you never slow down... but if you're hit by an enemy, you will be immediately dismounted with stamina at zero.

JD2013

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

So with your logic, we should share nothing I take it?

Nope. I like that CP's are account bound.

But not everything should be.

Then what's the difference? Start making CP for EACH character, and buy mounts for EACH character, cheapskate No share materials either while we are at it

The difference is that riding skill is hardly a tedious or hard thing to do. Go to a trainer. click a couple of times. Done.

If CP's were not account bound, then they may as well have just kept VR levels to get each character to top level

CP come pretty easy too pal freely given each time we get some xp points.. To get a riding lesson, I actually need to find specific npc's in specific places..

Really? You consider going to a town and clicking a couple of times to be hard work? Genuinely curious.

Daemons_Bane

I know how the 3 stats work and I still argue that we use them in PvE too plus, for completionists like myself, we just NEED them hehe

imnotanother

JD2013 wrote: »

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

So with your logic, we should share nothing I take it?

Nope. I like that CP's are account bound.

But not everything should be.

Then what's the difference? Start making CP for EACH character, and buy mounts for EACH character, cheapskate No share materials either while we are at it

The difference is that riding skill is hardly a tedious or hard thing to do. Go to a trainer. click a couple of times. Done.

If CP's were not account bound, then they may as well have just kept VR levels to get each character to top level

CP come pretty easy too pal freely given each time we get some xp points.. To get a riding lesson, I actually need to find specific npc's in specific places..

Really? You consider going to a town and clicking a couple of times to be hard work? Genuinely curious.

At this point of the thread, I'm pretty sure the OP is trolling.

ADarklore

imnotanother wrote: »

At this point of the thread, I'm pretty sure the OP is trolling.

Yeah, it's turning into another one of those, "I'm OCD so the game is FORCING ME to..." when in reality, the OP just doesn't want to accept that it is their own CHOICES that are causing the problem.