Is Power extraction ,useful?

Van_0S

Does anyone use this skill in PvP/PvE?

Wollust

No

BruhItsOver9000

Wollust wrote: »

No

End Of Discussion.

GilGalad

The magicka morph is the best aoe for magicka NBs, since it gives you the major spelldmg buff and it heals you and your allies.
The stamina morph however is only usefull if you dont have dual wield on one of your bars. Steel tornado outperforms it in terms of AOE dps. So its only usefull for stamina tanks or stamina setups with 2H/bow.

Van_0S

Wollust wrote: »

No

Why?
Just thing of a zerg combo ,you can do with this skill.

DocFrost72

Ot gives Nightblades great flexibility; having a class spammable, an AoE, and an execute. So if you are missing the strongest of those three, it is a good substitute.

vyndral13preub18_ESO

I like it. Steel Tornado is a little stronger and a lot stronger in execute. But it isnt horrible. It is a decent in class aoe.

leepalmer95

Power extraction actually has higher tooltip dmg than nado, it just does less damage overall because of the scaling damage on nado.

clayandaudrey_ESO

I do. 20 seconds of brutality is nice. Plus I thought my tool tip said disease damage.

Tylersoh

I use it instead of steel tornado

bebynnag

Used it on my old set up for the verious reasons mentioned above, & found it very effective.

frostitomik

It's actually much better than nado until 50% of health, does more dmg, costs 10% less stamina and gives you dmg buff. It's funny how majority of players here are missinformed. Also I have never seen anyone using it.

clayandaudrey_ESO

It is disease damage which is buffed by mighty. This with nado is awesome aoe damage.

clayandaudrey_ESO

Gil.Galad wrote: »

The magicka morph is the best aoe for magicka NBs, since it gives you the major spelldmg buff and it heals you and your allies.
The stamina morph however is only usefull if you dont have dual wield on one of your bars. Steel tornado outperforms it in terms of AOE dps. So its only usefull for stamina tanks or stamina setups with 2H/bow.

I disagree with this.

Aeaeren

Gil.Galad wrote: »

The magicka morph is the best aoe for magicka NBs, since it gives you the major spelldmg buff and it heals you and your allies.
The stamina morph however is only usefull if you dont have dual wield on one of your bars. Steel tornado outperforms it in terms of AOE dps. So its only usefull for stamina tanks or stamina setups with 2H/bow.

Not completely correct, above 50% I find Power extraction works better. Once the mobs are at 50% then Tornado

Jaronking

Its a good ability it just the magic version is better then the stamina version.IMO it need something else to make it on par.For example they can add a snare to it or add a additional HOT to it.Which would make the ability way better then it is now.

Azor_Ahaii

I really would love to use steel tornado instead of this but I can't as power extraction is my main source of major brutality on my dw/bow set up. Should I replace a dot with hidden blade and use steel tornado?

Aeaeren

Azor_Ahaii wrote: »

I really would love to use steel tornado instead of this but I can't as power extraction is my main source of major brutality on my dw/bow set up. Should I replace a dot with hidden blade and use steel tornado?

I use it with bow, mainly for the Major Brutality buff, it's 20 seconds and then switch to DW bar for either single or AOE.

So typically it's Rentless Focus, Trap Beast, Poison Injection, Power Extraction, Endless Hail <switch to bar to anim cancel) then DW bar depends on Single or Multiple. Single, blood craze, rapid strikes (spam) and Killer's blade to finish them off. AOE is Tornado.

Wollust

PvP perspective:
Steel Tornado outperforms this skill big time because of its slightly higher range and the executing damage. Yes, the damage may be on tooltip higher, but (usually) when you have to use AoE skills you don't check your enemies health much anyway. You won't alternate between Power Extraction and Steel Tornado just because PE does more tooltip damage. You'll just stick with ST.
Same as how Bombard is simply a better AoE skill with a much better function. An annoying root with a snare, a decent tooltip damage (higher than steel tornado as well btw.)

If you run Dual wield/2h, you'll use Steel Tornado.
If you run 2h/Bow, you'll use Bombard.
The only place I can see it being used is when you run a Shield/2h build. But even there it's simply a damage skill with no special component to it. Makes it kinda undesirable. I think I might even run Cleave before I'd use PE. Though I don't think that will ever happen.

The same logic applies for PvE. ST with its execute damage outperforms any other stamina AoE by a lot. And considering how dual wield is the best weapon for stam DPS, I don't see a reason why not to run ST.

clayandaudrey_ESO

I use both pe and nado. But I run dw on both bars.

GreenSoup2HoT

Something to note, this ability is UN-DODGE-ABLE, great against shuffle users. Physical damage AoE's are DODGE-ABLE (correct me if im wrong here) but power extraction is special in the sense it is not dodge-able (dawnbreaker is also not dodge-able but its because its an ultimate). Don't ask me why but its true. (ive tested against a friend).

It does decent damage however steel tornado does out perform it.

The only reason why i would ever use Power Extraction would be if i made some kind of hybrid tank/dps aoe build for pvp with 1 hand and shield. Just Block casting this ability ontop of a bunch of enemies. If Siphoning Attacks still worked with caltrops, stamina tanking on a nightblade with power extraction would be pretty strong but Siphoning doesn't work with caltrops anymore.

Also note that you get these passives with this ability:
-8% increased max magicka for having a siphoning ability slotted
-3% increased healing done for each siphoning ability slotted
-gain 2 ultimate whenever you use a siphoning ability while generating ultimate (4 second CD)

GreenSoup2HoT

Still dont see this morph getting used any ti.e soon. Shame.

Lord_Eomer

Azor_Ahaii wrote: »

I really would love to use steel tornado instead of this but I can't as power extraction is my main source of major brutality on my dw/bow set up. Should I replace a dot with hidden blade and use steel tornado?

You will lose crit bonus and major brutality buff and will have two slot two abilities instead (tornado for AOE and Blade for major brutality buff)

IwakuraLain42

I use this strictly for the Major Brutality buff in non-trial situations (where I use pots like everyone else).

actosh

Nice skill for my stam tank in pledges. Thats about it.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

I use it in vet dungeons, in the case we don't have a dk tank running igneous weapons, as I am a cheapskate when it comes to pots.

Iselin

If you're not getting your +20% Major Brutality from another source, yeah. Otherwise no.

DarkMatter268

I use it in mobs, works great. When large groups get to 20% health you can throw a couple killers blades and replace health. It is very useful and I fount it cheaper than ST.

KRBMMO

GilGalad wrote: »

The magicka morph is the best aoe for magicka NBs, since it gives you the major spelldmg buff and it heals you and your allies.
The stamina morph however is only usefull if you dont have dual wield on one of your bars. Steel tornado outperforms it in terms of AOE dps. So its only usefull for stamina tanks or stamina setups with 2H/bow.

It's also a useful way for Stamblade to get Major Brutality, which is a problem with Steel Tornado even if you DW. It's also a different Siphon skill for a Stamblade to slot on the second bar if you aren't using the siphon ult.

It's very useful for melting Mobs in PvE for stamblade and the morph is VERY useful for Magblade because it damages, heals and gives Major sorcery.

In PvP it's less useful because it you have more than 5+ players within 5m you're basically buggered.

Autumnhart

Yes. Rally is better for PVP.

Azurya

I use it, and it is extremly powerfull
and my monsterset procs on it
making it even more powerfull