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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861
Sun VS Julianos
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alkodav✭✭✭i remember sun set when it was op
so, i really plan to test it, mb really 5 julianos/tbs + 5 sun (if it would have jewellery) + msa staff (if i finally get it)) 0 -
runagate✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Don't forget the possibly of using 5 sun/5 elf bane which so far as I know prevents using undaunted sets but maybe 2 torugs swords for PvP dot builds. It's what my dk used to use back in the day, swapping between maul and sun staffEdited by runagate on July 6, 2016 9:56PM0 -
Jaronking✭✭✭✭✭
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Elfbane comes in jewelry and weapons now so you could run both with a monster set.Don't forget the possibly of using 5 sun/5 elf bane which so far as I know prevents using undaunted sets but maybe 2 torugs swords for PvP dot builds. It's what my dk used to use back in the day, swapping between maul and sun staff1 -
stevepdodson_ESO888✭✭✭✭✭
✭was just curious to know if combining Sun with (unpopular choice coming up) Elemental Succession might prove worthwhile for the 1 in 3 times that you are on Fire damage f(or 4 seconds in every 12) giving you an additional 515 Spell Damage on top of Sun
the maths behind working this one out has already given me a headache so i will leave that bit up to those better suited to it than i am
(as this also comes with jewellery there might be an interesting build)0 -
runagate✭✭✭✭✭
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Elfbane comes in jewelry and weapons now so you could run both with a monster set.Don't forget the possibly of using 5 sun/5 elf bane which so far as I know prevents using undaunted sets but maybe 2 torugs swords for PvP dot builds. It's what my dk used to use back in the day, swapping between maul and sun staff
Then I certainly shall do so. I haven't seen a single Elf Bane weapon come from an AP box and in fact was holding on to my CP 140 maul just in case, but now I'm going to go looking for these.
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Jaronking✭✭✭✭✭
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Yea with the new update you have to go to one of the new towns that are now capture able,capture the town that sells the heavy sets and try your lucky with the RNG boxes.It comes in everything now all armor jewelry and weapons now.
Elfbane comes in jewelry and weapons now so you could run both with a monster set.Don't forget the possibly of using 5 sun/5 elf bane which so far as I know prevents using undaunted sets but maybe 2 torugs swords for PvP dot builds. It's what my dk used to use back in the day, swapping between maul and sun staff
Then I certainly shall do so. I haven't seen a single Elf Bane weapon come from an AP box and in fact was holding on to my CP 140 maul just in case, but now I'm going to go looking for these.0 -
clocksstoppe✭✭✭✭✭
✭stevepdodson_ESO888 wrote: »was just curious to know if combining Sun with (unpopular choice coming up) Elemental Succession might prove worthwhile for the 1 in 3 times that you are on Fire damage f(or 4 seconds in every 12) giving you an additional 515 Spell Damage on top of Sun
the maths behind working this one out has already given me a headache so i will leave that bit up to those better suited to it than i am
(as this also comes with jewellery there might be an interesting build)
I think you are overcomplicating it. If you only run inferno staff so 1 out of 3 rotations count, over time, your spell damage from the 5th set effect would be 515 / 3 = 171.66. Only real way I see this set worth using is if your front bar is inferno staff and back bar is lightning so you get at least ~343 spell damage over time from it.0 -
Ishammael✭✭✭✭✭
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Elfbane comes in jewelry and weapons now so you could run both with a monster set.Don't forget the possibly of using 5 sun/5 elf bane which so far as I know prevents using undaunted sets but maybe 2 torugs swords for PvP dot builds. It's what my dk used to use back in the day, swapping between maul and sun staff
Then I certainly shall do so. I haven't seen a single Elf Bane weapon come from an AP box and in fact was holding on to my CP 140 maul just in case, but now I'm going to go looking for these.
Yea with the new update you have to go to one of the new towns that are now capture able,capture the town that sells the heavy sets and try your lucky with the RNG boxes.It comes in everything now all armor jewelry and weapons now.
Elfbane comes in jewelry and weapons now so you could run both with a monster set.Don't forget the possibly of using 5 sun/5 elf bane which so far as I know prevents using undaunted sets but maybe 2 torugs swords for PvP dot builds. It's what my dk used to use back in the day, swapping between maul and sun staff
Then I certainly shall do so. I haven't seen a single Elf Bane weapon come from an AP box and in fact was holding on to my CP 140 maul just in case, but now I'm going to go looking for these.
According to @Lord_Hev the drop rates on weapons are really, really low. So, good luck!
Regardless, I simply don't see the strength of Elf Bane. The 2/3/4 pc bonuses are good, true. But an additional 2s on fire DoTs seems underwhelming. I have tested this and the bonus applies to Embers, Engulfing, Talons, Clench, WoE, and Impulse. It does NOT apply to DoTs from ultimates like Shooting Star, Banner, or Magma Armor.
Any comments?1 -
NBrookus✭✭✭✭✭
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Elfbane comes in jewelry and weapons now so you could run both with a monster set.Don't forget the possibly of using 5 sun/5 elf bane which so far as I know prevents using undaunted sets but maybe 2 torugs swords for PvP dot builds. It's what my dk used to use back in the day, swapping between maul and sun staff
Then I certainly shall do so. I haven't seen a single Elf Bane weapon come from an AP box and in fact was holding on to my CP 140 maul just in case, but now I'm going to go looking for these.
Yea with the new update you have to go to one of the new towns that are now capture able,capture the town that sells the heavy sets and try your lucky with the RNG boxes.It comes in everything now all armor jewelry and weapons now.
Elfbane comes in jewelry and weapons now so you could run both with a monster set.Don't forget the possibly of using 5 sun/5 elf bane which so far as I know prevents using undaunted sets but maybe 2 torugs swords for PvP dot builds. It's what my dk used to use back in the day, swapping between maul and sun staff
Then I certainly shall do so. I haven't seen a single Elf Bane weapon come from an AP box and in fact was holding on to my CP 140 maul just in case, but now I'm going to go looking for these.
According to @Lord_Hev the drop rates on weapons are really, really low. So, good luck!
Regardless, I simply don't see the strength of Elf Bane. The 2/3/4 pc bonuses are good, true. But an additional 2s on fire DoTs seems underwhelming. I have tested this and the bonus applies to Embers, Engulfing, Talons, Clench, WoE, and Impulse. It does NOT apply to DoTs from ultimates like Shooting Star, Banner, or Magma Armor.
Any comments?
With everyone purging poisons and siege, I don't see how Elf Bane would get the chance to proc those extra 2 seconds.0 -
Amdar_Godkiller✭✭✭✭✭Seems like "Sun" could be very useful to Heavy Armor MagDK Tanks in both PVE and (especially) PVP.0 -
Wollust✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Sun seems like a nice set for PvP DKs.
Can someone tell me if the 400 spell damage is buffed by major and minor sorcery or is it simply the flat value being counted to the tooltips with no % increase?Susano'o
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Personofsecrets✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭In this case, is there a consideration, in favor of Julianos, to be made regarding the major sorcery buff?Don't tank
"In future content we will probably adjust this model somewhat (The BOP model). It's definitely nice to be able to find a cool item that you don't need and trade it to someone who can't wait to get their hands on it." - Wrobel0 -
Lexxypwns✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I'll be running 5 Sun 5 Black Rose 2 Bloodspawn on an mDK. Once I can get the 5 sun pieces I need.Edited by Lexxypwns on July 13, 2016 5:39PM0 -
Ghost-Shot✭✭✭✭✭
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Elfbane comes in jewelry and weapons now so you could run both with a monster set.Don't forget the possibly of using 5 sun/5 elf bane which so far as I know prevents using undaunted sets but maybe 2 torugs swords for PvP dot builds. It's what my dk used to use back in the day, swapping between maul and sun staff
Then I certainly shall do so. I haven't seen a single Elf Bane weapon come from an AP box and in fact was holding on to my CP 140 maul just in case, but now I'm going to go looking for these.
Yea with the new update you have to go to one of the new towns that are now capture able,capture the town that sells the heavy sets and try your lucky with the RNG boxes.It comes in everything now all armor jewelry and weapons now.
Elfbane comes in jewelry and weapons now so you could run both with a monster set.Don't forget the possibly of using 5 sun/5 elf bane which so far as I know prevents using undaunted sets but maybe 2 torugs swords for PvP dot builds. It's what my dk used to use back in the day, swapping between maul and sun staff
Then I certainly shall do so. I haven't seen a single Elf Bane weapon come from an AP box and in fact was holding on to my CP 140 maul just in case, but now I'm going to go looking for these.
According to @Lord_Hev the drop rates on weapons are really, really low. So, good luck!
Regardless, I simply don't see the strength of Elf Bane. The 2/3/4 pc bonuses are good, true. But an additional 2s on fire DoTs seems underwhelming. I have tested this and the bonus applies to Embers, Engulfing, Talons, Clench, WoE, and Impulse. It does NOT apply to DoTs from ultimates like Shooting Star, Banner, or Magma Armor.
Any comments?
@Ishammael It was really good for unstable flame back in the day since it does more damage the longer its active but for anything else its kinda meh.0 -
Ishammael✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Ghost-Shot wrote: »
Elfbane comes in jewelry and weapons now so you could run both with a monster set.Don't forget the possibly of using 5 sun/5 elf bane which so far as I know prevents using undaunted sets but maybe 2 torugs swords for PvP dot builds. It's what my dk used to use back in the day, swapping between maul and sun staff
Then I certainly shall do so. I haven't seen a single Elf Bane weapon come from an AP box and in fact was holding on to my CP 140 maul just in case, but now I'm going to go looking for these.
Yea with the new update you have to go to one of the new towns that are now capture able,capture the town that sells the heavy sets and try your lucky with the RNG boxes.It comes in everything now all armor jewelry and weapons now.
Elfbane comes in jewelry and weapons now so you could run both with a monster set.Don't forget the possibly of using 5 sun/5 elf bane which so far as I know prevents using undaunted sets but maybe 2 torugs swords for PvP dot builds. It's what my dk used to use back in the day, swapping between maul and sun staff
Then I certainly shall do so. I haven't seen a single Elf Bane weapon come from an AP box and in fact was holding on to my CP 140 maul just in case, but now I'm going to go looking for these.
According to @Lord_Hev the drop rates on weapons are really, really low. So, good luck!
Regardless, I simply don't see the strength of Elf Bane. The 2/3/4 pc bonuses are good, true. But an additional 2s on fire DoTs seems underwhelming. I have tested this and the bonus applies to Embers, Engulfing, Talons, Clench, WoE, and Impulse. It does NOT apply to DoTs from ultimates like Shooting Star, Banner, or Magma Armor.
Any comments?
@Ishammael It was really good for unstable flame back in the day since it does more damage the longer its active but for anything else its kinda meh.
I seem to remember it being a flat % fire dmg bonus.0 -
Ghost-Shot✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Ghost-Shot wrote: »
Elfbane comes in jewelry and weapons now so you could run both with a monster set.Don't forget the possibly of using 5 sun/5 elf bane which so far as I know prevents using undaunted sets but maybe 2 torugs swords for PvP dot builds. It's what my dk used to use back in the day, swapping between maul and sun staff
Then I certainly shall do so. I haven't seen a single Elf Bane weapon come from an AP box and in fact was holding on to my CP 140 maul just in case, but now I'm going to go looking for these.
Yea with the new update you have to go to one of the new towns that are now capture able,capture the town that sells the heavy sets and try your lucky with the RNG boxes.It comes in everything now all armor jewelry and weapons now.
Elfbane comes in jewelry and weapons now so you could run both with a monster set.Don't forget the possibly of using 5 sun/5 elf bane which so far as I know prevents using undaunted sets but maybe 2 torugs swords for PvP dot builds. It's what my dk used to use back in the day, swapping between maul and sun staff
Then I certainly shall do so. I haven't seen a single Elf Bane weapon come from an AP box and in fact was holding on to my CP 140 maul just in case, but now I'm going to go looking for these.
According to @Lord_Hev the drop rates on weapons are really, really low. So, good luck!
Regardless, I simply don't see the strength of Elf Bane. The 2/3/4 pc bonuses are good, true. But an additional 2s on fire DoTs seems underwhelming. I have tested this and the bonus applies to Embers, Engulfing, Talons, Clench, WoE, and Impulse. It does NOT apply to DoTs from ultimates like Shooting Star, Banner, or Magma Armor.
Any comments?
@Ishammael It was really good for unstable flame back in the day since it does more damage the longer its active but for anything else its kinda meh.
I seem to remember it being a flat % fire dmg bonus.
Could be, it was over a year ago so I may not remember it right at this point.0 -
nordsavage✭✭✭✭✭Silks will have jewelry I am guessing, I do not use the PTS, so instead of looking at this vs. Julianos we should maybe look at it in conjunction with Julianos at least for non vMA staff builds. mDK with x5 Silks and x5 Julianos with a Kena would be a slight max magicka loss but an over all spell power gain plus the health bonus would be a good boon. You could even go dual wield to use a two piece helm but I am a firm believer in staff weaving on a mDK for sustain. I have not had my coffee yet but I did not want to lose this thought but I think its a valid idea.I didn't choose tank life, tank life chose me.1 -
Shadesofkin✭✭✭✭✭
✭nordsavage wrote: »Silks will have jewelry I am guessing, I do not use the PTS, so instead of looking at this vs. Julianos we should maybe look at it in conjunction with Julianos at least for non vMA staff builds. mDK with x5 Silks and x5 Julianos with a Kena would be a slight max magicka loss but an over all spell power gain plus the health bonus would be a good boon. You could even go dual wield to use a two piece helm but I am a firm believer in staff weaving on a mDK for sustain. I have not had my coffee yet but I did not want to lose this thought but I think its a valid idea.
This is where I'm at with it. It's a fairly good non-VMSA staff build set up with the Jewelry and a 2x Destro Staves (Resto for those VMSA runs).
It's also a great set for lower CP players who have yet to hit the cap.0 -
teladoy✭✭✭✭✭I also would like to know what's the best to combine with BSW, if julianos or silks...0
