The old morrals for any game.

Love_Daggerfall

I have played Playstation 1
I have played xbox original
I played Nintendo 64.
We played all the games.
If a game was too hard or angered us way to much we just tossed it out and enjoyed the games that gave us fun.
We didn't voice ourselfs in forums.
Life was simple.
We all ways bought the lastest games.
I think we sould all use the old morrals from years gone by if ESO angers or is unplayable don't be a baby and cry on a webpage because your not on the company pay roll its not your website. Just toss the bloody game out. There are loads of games that E3 just told us about go buy a replacement.
Lets all have some commonsense about this take action not words.

Cazzy

People tend to complain because They like it They want to see it do well and become better.

It's important to voice change otherwise change does not happen.

Wing

remember just missing things? before wiki's when strategy guides were rare but fricken glorious.
JRPG's were actually good.
games were sold complete and didn't have DLC.
playing single player missions with friends co-op was multiplayer.
the only forms of cheating were screen peeking.

don't get me wrong there was terrible things back in the day (oddjob and proxy mines in goldeneye anyone?), but games had a lot of soul back then before they were used as a tool to make money first and a good game second.

KochDerDamonen

The difference between then and now on this matter is that games like this are actively updated by a team of developers that are in some degree accessible to us. The complaining is an outcry to these developers to take something into consideration when developing the next patch. Some people are less constructive than others, some more. Some developers are more receptive to their community, make better decisions, or are better staffed and funded.

People complain because they like the game and think it could be better, they don't just drop it and leave because they don't want another game as much as they want this.

BigBragg

How is disposing of something over repairing it considered to be old morals?

jello

Im complaining because i like the game and i want it to work. Zos became very greedy and incompetent since launch. Not much became better, a lot got worse.

Runs

Love_Daggerfall wrote: »

I have played Playstation 1
I have played xbox original
I played Nintendo 64.
We played all the games.
If a game was too hard or angered us way to much we just tossed it out and enjoyed the games that gave us fun.
We didn't voice ourselfs in forums.
Life was simple.
We all ways bought the lastest games.
I think we sould all use the old morrals from years gone by if ESO angers or is unplayable don't be a baby and cry on a webpage because your not on the company pay roll its not your website. Just toss the bloody game out. There are loads of games that E3 just told us about go buy a replacement.
Lets all have some commonsense about this take action not words.

Maybe you should leave the forums and go back to your old morals. Instead of coming here and crying like a baby about people who are voicing thier concerns about a game they enjoy. This is what the second thread you have made with the exact same topic?

Games then were also fixed. You bought it and it stayed as it was. This game is not fixed, it changes often. A character made 2 years ago is completely different today than it was then. They also only involved 1-4 players. It's a bit different when you start talking about an MMO.

Rohamad_Ali

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gXUxLqqmhNs

Lysette

Wing wrote: »

remember just missing things? before wiki's when strategy guides were rare but fricken glorious.
JRPG's were actually good.
games were sold complete and didn't have DLC.
playing single player missions with friends co-op was multiplayer.
the only forms of cheating were screen peeking.

don't get me wrong there was terrible things back in the day (oddjob and proxy mines in goldeneye anyone?), but games had a lot of soul back then before they were used as a tool to make money first and a good game second.

And they had an actual manual - often 80 pages or more. My partner is collecting older games in their original box - I have seen some of those manuals, they were awesome in the past.

Tandor

Cazzy wrote: »

People tend to complain because They like it They want to see it do well and become better.

It's important to voice change otherwise change does not happen.

That's a valid justification for constructive criticism, but not for the endless whining that we see here.

Tandor

Lysette wrote: »

Wing wrote: »

remember just missing things? before wiki's when strategy guides were rare but fricken glorious.
JRPG's were actually good.
games were sold complete and didn't have DLC.
playing single player missions with friends co-op was multiplayer.
the only forms of cheating were screen peeking.

don't get me wrong there was terrible things back in the day (oddjob and proxy mines in goldeneye anyone?), but games had a lot of soul back then before they were used as a tool to make money first and a good game second.

And they had an actual manual - often 80 pages or more. My partner is collecting older games in their original box - I have seen some of those manuals, they were awesome in the past.

Absolutely, and don't forget the maps we had too !

Tandor

Runs wrote: »

Love_Daggerfall wrote: »

I have played Playstation 1
I have played xbox original
I played Nintendo 64.
We played all the games.
If a game was too hard or angered us way to much we just tossed it out and enjoyed the games that gave us fun.
We didn't voice ourselfs in forums.
Life was simple.
We all ways bought the lastest games.
I think we sould all use the old morrals from years gone by if ESO angers or is unplayable don't be a baby and cry on a webpage because your not on the company pay roll its not your website. Just toss the bloody game out. There are loads of games that E3 just told us about go buy a replacement.
Lets all have some commonsense about this take action not words.

Maybe you should leave the forums and go back to your old morals. Instead of coming here and crying like a baby about people who are voicing thier concerns about a game they enjoy. This is what the second thread you have made with the exact same topic?

Games then were also fixed. You bought it and it stayed as it was. This game is not fixed, it changes often. A character made 2 years ago is completely different today than it was then. They also only involved 1-4 players. It's a bit different when you start talking about an MMO.

Yes this game does change often, like all MMOs. It's the evolutionary style of MMOs that is part of their attraction. People need to recognise that and adapt as necessary to the changes instead of coming here to QQ as soon as there's the slightest change to their character. Change is what keeps a long-term game fresh.

Lysette

Tandor wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Wing wrote: »

remember just missing things? before wiki's when strategy guides were rare but fricken glorious.
JRPG's were actually good.
games were sold complete and didn't have DLC.
playing single player missions with friends co-op was multiplayer.
the only forms of cheating were screen peeking.

don't get me wrong there was terrible things back in the day (oddjob and proxy mines in goldeneye anyone?), but games had a lot of soul back then before they were used as a tool to make money first and a good game second.

And they had an actual manual - often 80 pages or more. My partner is collecting older games in their original box - I have seen some of those manuals, they were awesome in the past.

Absolutely, and don't forget the maps we had too !

I am not old enough to have experienced it myself - I just judge from those video game boxes my partner is collecting. Most of these games are not playable, because the discs are old and cannot be read anymore or have other issues. Some have even still floppy discs, but who has nowadays a reader for those still. And I doubt that they are still readable.

Smileybones

First MMOs had maintenances that lasted several DAYS, people weren't bitching all day about that in the boards. Now if there is a maintenance 2 days in a row people come crying rivers and some even dare asking for a compensation for their lost playtime.

First MMOS were all sub-based so you could imagine people were complaining all the time on boards cause they felt entitled to as paying customers. Guess what ? No.

Different times, different generations of "gamers" I guess.

Lysette

Smileybones wrote: »

First MMOs had maintenances that lasted several DAYS, people weren't bitching all day about that in the boards. Now if there is a maintenance 2 days in a row people come crying rivers and some even dare asking for a compensation for their lost playtime.

First MMOS were all sub-based so you could imagine people were complaining all the time on boards cause they felt entitled to as paying customers. Guess what ? No.

Different times, different generations of "gamers" I guess.

Absolutely - for me for example I grew up with this technology and I cannot even imagine to live without it. Or to not be able to be online in some form - I even take a satellite phone with me, when I fly above territory, where it is not likely to get a cell phone connection - but Iridium is everywhere, I will always be able to get online and read emails and stuff - comes at a high price per minute, but to be without the ability to go online is a terrible thought to me. This might be hard to understand for someone, who had a time in his life without the technology, but to me it is absolutely essential. I am from a generation for whom a smart phone is a mobile computer and not a phone - some older people actually phone with this thing, while I use nearly exclusively internet services like email and other online media.

sadownik

Smileybones wrote: »

First MMOs had maintenances that lasted several DAYS, people weren't bitching all day about that in the boards. Now if there is a maintenance 2 days in a row people come crying rivers and some even dare asking for a compensation for their lost playtime.

First MMOS were all sub-based so you could imagine people were complaining all the time on boards cause they felt entitled to as paying customers. Guess what ? No.

Different times, different generations of "gamers" I guess.

Im sorry but.... what? People most certainly were "bitching" all day in those times too when the game wasnt working as it supposed to.

And i must say im quite tired of all this "back in my days..." arguments. Im not old by any means but 38 years let me see the early stage of pc gaming and yet still i find it silly to put it mildly to argument that we should be happy with what we got and be thankful to ZOS because "back in my days..." we had to play on wooden computers and splinters from mouse were getting into our hands. Please - i judge ZOS performance only in comparison to other current year developers and in that ZOS in my personal ranking quite low, not lowest of all times, but still quite low.

Browiseth

OP you're kidding yourself a bit I'm sorry. People most certainly did complain about problems back then, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with complaining about problems in games

Now can we as a community please stamp out these pretentious and deluded "back in my day" threads

Love_Daggerfall

Browiseth wrote: »

OP you're kidding yourself a bit I'm sorry. People most certainly did complain about problems back then, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with complaining about problems in games

Now can we as a community please stamp out these pretentious and deluded "back in my day" threads

Anything l mean anything
If its bad for business then it should be stamped out.
Of cause its only good business sense.
Nothing to take personal at all.
Now if l could only work out why l keep coming here. Then l could stamp that habbit out too.
I agree with you.

Love_Daggerfall

Runs wrote: »

Love_Daggerfall wrote: »

I have played Playstation 1
I have played xbox original
I played Nintendo 64.
We played all the games.
If a game was too hard or angered us way to much we just tossed it out and enjoyed the games that gave us fun.
We didn't voice ourselfs in forums.
Life was simple.
We all ways bought the lastest games.
I think we sould all use the old morrals from years gone by if ESO angers or is unplayable don't be a baby and cry on a webpage because your not on the company pay roll its not your website. Just toss the bloody game out. There are loads of games that E3 just told us about go buy a replacement.
Lets all have some commonsense about this take action not words.

Maybe you should leave the forums and go back to your old morals. Instead of coming here and crying like a baby about people who are voicing thier concerns about a game they enjoy. This is what the second thread you have made with the exact same topic?

Games then were also fixed. You bought it and it stayed as it was. This game is not fixed, it changes often. A character made 2 years ago is completely different today than it was then. They also only involved 1-4 players. It's a bit different when you start talking about an MMO.

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BenLocoDete

Wing wrote: »

(...)(oddjob and proxy mines in goldeneye anyone?)

Yup, thanks. Good times.

Reapor

Iv never ever thrown a game out cause it was 2 hard, what overpowering version of casualism is that?

Love_Daggerfall

Yes getting back on topic.
Wii U Zombie game was so hard.
I got a refund the next day.
One of the Final Fantasys was so hard l snaped the disk in two.
I am compleaty hopless.
There l go breaking the rules about not talking about other games.

As l am talking before bed.
Dear moderator,
Before you take any action on this thread if you are compelled to do so. Please take a very good read of the "How else can l help you?" as l have tried all these options on this webpage and found most of them don't even work or only work in part when the public are educated to use those options.
As for me l don't want to be banned only because l want to figger out what my dependancy is that has me coming back.
Once l work out that need l should be able to remove myself as l will put a replacement in this broken websites place. Please give me a little more time and l should leave on my own in a few days time.

ZOS_DaryaK

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